South Slavic & neighbours Eurogenes results

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Nurzat is not representative, he is mixed.

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Yes he has minor Slavic ancestry, but he's mainly romanian moldovan and judging by his result he's only west shifted of republic moldovans. If not for something else he should participate just for the sake of it.

Found this one. 3/4 Herzegovina & 1/4 Bosnia Serb:

Population
North_Sea 12.20 Pct
Atlantic 17.24 Pct
Baltic 21.81 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.26 Pct
West_Med 14.75 Pct
West_Asian 6.75 Pct
East_Med 12.19 Pct
Red_Sea 2.79 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Mother of the person above, 1/2 Herzegovina, 1/2 Bosnia Seb:


Population
North_Sea 11.53 Pct
Atlantic 20.76 Pct
Baltic 23.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.31 Pct
West_Med 13.74 Pct
West_Asian 2.53 Pct
East_Med 12.98 Pct
Red_Sea 1.32 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych

Yes he has minor Slavic ancestry, but he's mainly romanian moldovan and judging by his result he's only west shifted of republic moldovans. If not for something else he should participate just for the sake of it.

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Minor? lol, that guy is mixed af. He have Boyko, Polish Goral, and Romanian Moldavian origins, plus he speculated to have some Germanic ancestry. Ironically he don't plot too Northern, he is similar to you, and I think this is because of Balkan influence on genetics of his Slavic ancestors who was mostly Carpathian Slavs.

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Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych

Yes, until more people get tested we wont know what is the difference if there is a significant difference to speak of. You plot somewhere between serbs and north Italians which is interesting for a person with moldavian romanian ancestry only?

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He has Ukrainian written on his profile under "Ancestry".

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Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych

Yes he has minor Slavic ancestry, but he's mainly romanian moldovan and judging by his result he's only west shifted of republic moldovans. If not for something else he should participate just for the sake of it.

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Not just minor, but half. He said he's half-Rusyn and half-Moldovan (from Romania). I think Rusyns are heavily mixed with Vlachs, so that's why he's not too far from the Moldovan average.

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Originally Posted by Mingle

He has Ukrainian written on his profile under "Ancestry".

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His Ukrainian ancestry is just noise.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

it aint bulshit.. i just typed 255 instead of 225. lol
here
https://i.imgur.com/zVUwoej.png

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The map is a bit hard to read. Can you maybe provide a legend to the side or something?

Also, is this map based only on K13 or what?

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Originally Posted by Mingle

Also, is this map based only on K13 or what?

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K15

Serbian woman from Vojvodina K13.

1 Baltic 29.38
2 North_Atlantic 26.74
3 West_Med 17.49
4 East_Med 12.82
5 West_Asian 10.1
6 South_Asian 0.86
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Northeast_African 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.65
10 East_Asian 0.5

1 Serbian 4.85
2 Moldavian 6.29
3 Romanian 8.01
4 Croatian 8.52
5 Hungarian 8.76
6 Bulgarian 10.7
7 Austrian 12.31
8 East_German 13.7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.05
10 South_Polish 16.57

IrisSelene

Population
North_Atlantic 21.24 Pct
Baltic 31.64 Pct
West_Med 14.66 Pct
West_Asian 14.77 Pct
East_Med 14.81 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian 2.13 Pct
Amerindian 0.75 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Population
North_Sea 15.31 Pct
Atlantic 13.58 Pct
Baltic 21.58 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.01 Pct
West_Med 8.99 Pct
West_Asian 14.85 Pct
East_Med 11.14 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.27 Pct
Amerindian 0.28 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

If your father has value 14-19 on marker than you wuz Serbian vlachs Bunjevci. :)

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Which marker, DYS385 ?

No, he has 14-15

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Serbian woman from Vojvodina K13.

1 Baltic 29.38
2 North_Atlantic 26.74
3 West_Med 17.49
4 East_Med 12.82
5 West_Asian 10.1
6 South_Asian 0.86
7 Amerindian 0.8
8 Northeast_African 0.66
9 Oceanian 0.65
10 East_Asian 0.5

1 Serbian 4.85
2 Moldavian 6.29
3 Romanian 8.01
4 Croatian 8.52
5 Hungarian 8.76
6 Bulgarian 10.7
7 Austrian 12.31
8 East_German 13.7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.05
10 South_Polish 16.57

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Her K12 dodecad.

North_European 40.67
Atlantic_Med 25.96
Caucasus 21.17
Gedrosia 5.99
Southwest_Asian 3.05
Northwest_African 1.72
Southeast_Asian 0.7
East_Asian 0.49
South_Asian 0.24

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

they have 71% i2 and 12% r1a. 83% together.
one i posted gets 90% Ukrainian + 10% Cyprian in oracle. they one of the most Slavic South Slavs, but their pre-Slavic population was something exotic and different from the rest of Balkans. that's why they look exotic.

https://i.imgur.com/w5z0ebo.png

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Are you talking about this person?

Spoiler!

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T063442 Croatian T063442

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 24.41
2 North_Sea 19.6
3 Eastern_Euro 16.76
4 East_Med 10.82
5 Atlantic 10.79
6 West_Med 9.98
7 West_Asian 4.87
8 Red_Sea 1.4
9 Northeast_African 0.89
10 Siberian 0.28
11 Southeast_Asian 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Moldavian 6.14
2 Croatian 7.54
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 8.23
4 Ukrainian 8.73
5 Hungarian 9.19
6 South_Polish 9.7
7 Serbian 11.12
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.86
9 Polish 12.11
10 Southwest_Russian 12.17
11 Russian_Smolensk 12.53
12 Romanian 12.71
13 Austrian 12.76
14 Belorussian 13.85
15 Estonian_Polish 14.08
16 East_German 14.48
17 Bulgarian 14.52
18 Kargopol_Russian 15.18
19 Estonian 15.81
20 Erzya 16.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.6% Ukrainian + 15.4% Samaritan @ 3.15
2 85% Ukrainian + 15% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.25
3 85% Ukrainian + 15% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.35
4 82.4% Ukrainian + 17.6% Libyan_Jewish @ 3.38
5 83.2% Ukrainian + 16.8% Cyprian @ 3.47
6 84.7% Ukrainian + 15.3% Palestinian @ 3.59
7 84.3% Ukrainian + 15.7% Jordanian @ 3.72
8 82.9% Ukrainian + 17.1% Tunisian_Jewish @ 3.92
9 81.7% Ukrainian + 18.3% Algerian_Jewish @ 3.94
10 84% Ukrainian + 16% Lebanese_Muslim @ 3.95
11 84.1% Ukrainian + 15.9% Syrian @ 4
12 81.4% Ukrainian + 18.6% Italian_Jewish @ 4.03
13 77.1% Ukrainian + 22.9% Ashkenazi @ 4.07
14 87.6% Ukrainian + 12.4% Yemenite_Jewish @ 4.07
15 85.8% Ukrainian + 14.2% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.12
16 86.3% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.7% Samaritan @ 4.18
17 84.1% Ukrainian_Lviv + 15.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 4.21
18 86.6% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.4% Lebanese_Druze @ 4.23
19 72.7% Ukrainian + 27.3% Greek_Thessaly @ 4.23
20 86.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 13.3% Lebanese_Christian @ 4.24

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There is nothing exotic about that person for a South Slav person.

The red dot is where person plots. You looked at the Oracle and draw a line from Ukrainian to Cyprus because that is what Oracle came up with. But things like that happen all the time. People don't exactly come out from factory lines (random genetic recombination) so that we all need to be governed by random reference groups. That is why people get results they do.

https://i.postimg.cc/kXTnwBDy/K15V4.png

Why not Belgorod + Tuscan or Ukrainian+Greek? (I understand this kind of thinking is not right too, that is drawing straight lines right through dot, but you get the point) Oh yeah right, Oracle told you otherwise.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Interesting.

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NOT

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

Northern ploting is "cure" for complexes of woggish people btw.

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Says the guy who talks about pigmentation most the time. Based on your classification threads one would think you come from Poland or smth.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

You confuse southern Serbs with Gypsies. Most of Gypsies in Serbia live in southern Serbia.
In reality southern Serbs are not dark as many people imagine them including many Serbs.

Herzegovinian Croatians are visible darker than Bosnian Serbs. People like Dragan Đilas, Marko Marin, Nemanja Bilbija, Branko Ćopić, Goran Kostić, Ratko Mladić, Ognjen Kuzmić, Branislav Krunić (all are Bosnian Serbs, except last one who is Herzegovinian Serb) etc. can be found among faumos Herzegovinian Croatians who looks usualy like Zdravko Mamić and Milan Bandić.
Herzegovinian Croatians are most meddish and darkest group in BiH.

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Swarthy and proud bruh.

Everytime I meet random Serb I am like:
https://media.giphy.com/media/yidUzH...aMMw/giphy.gif

When I do meet some light haired and/or light eyed person I contemplate in wonder and keep saying to myself: this person has to be at least 1% Hyperborean, this person has to be at least 1% Serbian.

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Originally Posted by Aspirin

Minor? lol, that guy is mixed af. He have Boyko, Polish Goral, and Romanian Moldavian origins, plus he speculated to have some Germanic ancestry. Ironically he don't plot too Northern, he is similar to you, and I think this is because of Balkan influence on genetics of his Slavic ancestors who was mostly Carpathian Slavs.

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That's why I said minor. Although he is half slav he's not far at all from moldavians.

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Originally Posted by Zmey Gorynych

That's why I said minor. Although he is half slav he's not far at all from moldavians.

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Still he can't be counted as Moldavian because he is only half, doesn't matter his autosomal results. Same can be saying about other individuals like Seya, or Daos777 from RM.

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Originally Posted by Insuperable

Are you talking about this person?


There is nothing exotic about that person for a South Slav person.

The red dot is where person plots. You looked at the Oracle and draw a line from Ukrainian to Cyprus because that is what Oracle came up with. But things like that happen all the time. People don't exactly come out from factory lines (random genetic recombination) so that we all need to be governed by random reference groups. That is why people get results they do.

https://i.postimg.cc/kXTnwBDy/K15V4.png

Why not Belgorod + Tuscan or Ukrainian+Greek? (I understand this kind of thinking is not right too, that is drawing straight lines right through dot, but you get the point) Oh yeah right, Oracle told you otherwise.

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what's a normal South Slavic result? here's some random South Slavs from the past few pages

1 Baltic 18.33
2 Atlantic 18.25
3 East_Med 17.34

1 Atlantic 21.35
2 North_Sea 19.27
3 East_Med 14.2

1 Baltic 18.05
2 North_Sea 16.28
3 Atlantic 15.88

they all get some Baltic, some East Med ... it's all the same, all people are the same, all results are normal?
yes, of course i prefer the oracle to the pca. for example, that Serb who plots near the Austrian point gets Serb+German in oracle.
he could get Polish/Ukrainian + Italian/Spanish/French like all the others who plot there, but the oracle detects specific proportions which make him Serb+German instead.
he didn't come from a factory line of course, that's a very simplified model of his ancestry, but it shows the general direction.

this is what the creator of k15 says about the oracles:
Eurogenes EUtestV2 K15 I just tried it myself, and have say that the 4-Ancestors Oracle results were impressive. In other words, they were very accurate based on what I know about my recent ancestry. On the other hand, I'd say the default Oracle was picking up more ancient gene flows.

did he just look at his admixture results and plotting, and say "that looks pretty Polish to me"? no, he went straight to the oracle.

this Croat fits best as Ukraine + Levant. the fact that he plots west of that line on PCA also means something, it means he also has some small additional influence which pulls him west from that mix.

update

https://i.imgur.com/feoGQtT.png

https://i.imgur.com/PukiTPL.png

https://i.imgur.com/nMiEb4G.png

https://i.imgur.com/GFKxhYW.png

https://i.imgur.com/WFns2cW.png

https://i.imgur.com/psLe9rW.png

https://i.imgur.com/mdYJUka.png

https://i.imgur.com/j58BEBJ.png

Nice work dude

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

update

https://i.imgur.com/feoGQtT.png

https://i.imgur.com/PukiTPL.png

https://i.imgur.com/nMiEb4G.png

https://i.imgur.com/GFKxhYW.png

https://i.imgur.com/WFns2cW.png

https://i.imgur.com/psLe9rW.png

https://i.imgur.com/mdYJUka.png

https://i.imgur.com/j58BEBJ.png

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Could you plot me on this?
North_Sea 10.35 Pct
Atlantic 15.19 Pct
Baltic 9.99 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.57 Pct
West_Med 15.94 Pct
West_Asian 13.58 Pct
East_Med 24.37 Pct
Red_Sea 3.87 Pct
South_Asian 0.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.19 Pct
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by xripkan

Could you plot me on this?
North_Sea 10.35 Pct
Atlantic 15.19 Pct
Baltic 9.99 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.57 Pct
West_Med 15.94 Pct
West_Asian 13.58 Pct
East_Med 24.37 Pct
Red_Sea 3.87 Pct
South_Asian 0.05 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.19 Pct
Siberian 0.38 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.52 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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https://i.imgur.com/0wla12M.png

https://i.imgur.com/okVP2Qo.png

This is very cool

I plot together with Turkish_Istanbul lol

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

I plot together with Turkish_Istanbul lol

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this is the sample
Z211567 Istanbul25095

others
Z050256 Istanbul15781
Z627145 Istanbul17778
Z356894 Istanbul19185
Z026788 Istanbul19708
Z360007 Istanbul19810
Z641567 Istanbul20010
Z961635 Istanbul20040
Z167307 Istanbul25081
Z650044 Istanbul25098

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

this is the sample
Z211567 Istanbul25095

others
Z050256 Istanbul15781
Z627145 Istanbul17778
Z356894 Istanbul19185
Z026788 Istanbul19708
Z360007 Istanbul19810
Z641567 Istanbul20010
Z961635 Istanbul20040
Z167307 Istanbul25081
Z650044 Istanbul25098

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How funny even not one of them are native to the Istanbul

Z211567 -> From Drama or Kavala.
Z050256 -> From Thrace or Thessaloniki
Z627145 -> From Central-Eastern Anatolia
Z356894 -> From Central-Western Anatolia
Z026788 -> From Central Anatolia
Z360007 -> From Central-Eastern Anatolia
Z641567 -> From Eastern Anatolia
Z961635 -> From Eastern Anatolia
Z167307 -> From Western Anatolia
Z650044 -> From Thessaloniki

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

https://i.imgur.com/0wla12M.png

https://i.imgur.com/okVP2Qo.png

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could you please plot me and my father? i want to know our place in your plotting. thanks.

me;
Population
North_Sea 14.26 Pct
Atlantic 6.70 Pct
Baltic 8.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.99 Pct
West_Med 12.52 Pct
West_Asian 16.20 Pct
East_Med 21.95 Pct
Red_Sea 4.14 Pct
South_Asian 1.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 3.61 Pct
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 1.04 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

my father;
Population
North_Sea 14.85 Pct
Atlantic 3.86 Pct
Baltic 15.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.82 Pct
West_Med 13.03 Pct
West_Asian 14.01 Pct
East_Med 21.92 Pct
Red_Sea 1.76 Pct
South_Asian 3.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.79 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

How funny even not one of them are native to the Istanbul

Z211567 -> From Drama or Kavala.
Z050256 -> From Thrace or Thessaloniki
Z627145 -> From Central-Eastern Anatolia
Z356894 -> From Central-Western Anatolia
Z026788 -> From Central Anatolia
Z360007 -> From Central-Eastern Anatolia
Z641567 -> From Eastern Anatolia
Z961635 -> From Eastern Anatolia
Z167307 -> From Western Anatolia
Z650044 -> From Thessaloniki

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you concluded from their results in calculators?

Z050256 is weird. Z650044 plots together with Macedonian Greeks, Z050256 is far from them and gets weird results in k13 oracle. i need more kits from these regions(northern parts of Greece and Western Turkey), maybe he's normal for his region.

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Originally Posted by karakartal

could you please plot me and my father? i want to know our place in your plotting. thanks.

me;
Population
North_Sea 14.26 Pct
Atlantic 6.70 Pct
Baltic 8.65 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.99 Pct
West_Med 12.52 Pct
West_Asian 16.20 Pct
East_Med 21.95 Pct
Red_Sea 4.14 Pct
South_Asian 1.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 3.61 Pct
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 1.04 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

my father;
Population
North_Sea 14.85 Pct
Atlantic 3.86 Pct
Baltic 15.74 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.82 Pct
West_Med 13.03 Pct
West_Asian 14.01 Pct
East_Med 21.92 Pct
Red_Sea 1.76 Pct
South_Asian 3.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.38 Pct
Siberian 1.79 Pct
Amerindian 0.76 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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you plot in Istanbul :D

https://i.imgur.com/XBcJW0A.png

Looking at this, I am shifted towards Czechs.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Looking at this, I am shifted towards Czechs.

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you didn't test at the same company/chip version as your parents?

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

you didn't test at the same company/chip version as your parents?

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Correct. I tested with 23andme (V4 chip) and my parents with FTDNA (quite recently). Their raw data contains significantly less SNPs than mine.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Looking at this, I am shifted towards Czechs.

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You are closer to HungryLion than to your father. loool

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

You are closer to HungryLion than to your father. loool

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And to Hrvoje too. He plots almost like my sibling.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

You are closer to HungryLion than to your father. loool

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her parents have low snp count in k15, their plotting is imprecise. in reality they probably plot like croat_cro196 and croat_bhcb12

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

you concluded from their results in calculators?

Z050256 is weird. Z650044 plots together with Macedonian Greeks, Z050256 is far from them and gets weird results in k13 oracle. i need more kits from these regions(northern parts of Greece and Western Turkey), maybe he's normal for his region.

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Yes.

Turk_Edirne


Population
North_Sea 7.06 Pct
Atlantic 9.03 Pct
Baltic 12.95 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.77 Pct
West_Med 9.24 Pct
West_Asian 21.19 Pct
East_Med 17.58 Pct
Red_Sea 3.91 Pct
South_Asian 1.27 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.95 Pct
Siberian 4.32 Pct
Amerindian 0.50 Pct
Oceanian 0.24 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Razgrad

Population
North_Sea 7.78 Pct
Atlantic 13.20 Pct
Baltic 13.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.59 Pct
West_Med 10.18 Pct
West_Asian 16.46 Pct
East_Med 18.27 Pct
Red_Sea 1.79 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.92 Pct
Siberian 3.27 Pct
Amerindian 0.07 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.11 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Drama


Population
North_Sea 14.23 Pct
Atlantic 9.32 Pct
Baltic 12.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.06 Pct
West_Med 11.57 Pct
West_Asian 15.14 Pct
East_Med 18.38 Pct
Red_Sea 1.57 Pct
South_Asian 1.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 1.93 Pct
Amerindian 0.07 Pct
Oceanian 0.14 Pct
Northeast_African 0.08 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.21 Pct


Turk_Kardzhali

Population
North_Sea 9.03 Pct
Atlantic 9.59 Pct
Baltic 12.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.94 Pct
West_Med 7.20 Pct
West_Asian 16.56 Pct
East_Med 18.85 Pct
Red_Sea 3.27 Pct
South_Asian 4.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.99 Pct
Siberian 6.34 Pct
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 0.67 Pct
Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Varna

Population
North_Sea 8.97 Pct
Atlantic 11.09 Pct
Baltic 18.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.58 Pct
West_Med 13.86 Pct
West_Asian 13.68 Pct
East_Med 17.97 Pct
Red_Sea 2.56 Pct
South_Asian 1.61 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.05 Pct
Siberian 3.39 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct


Turk_Silistra

Population
North_Sea 10.61 Pct
Atlantic 13.35 Pct
Baltic 13.83 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.68 Pct
West_Med 10.59 Pct
West_Asian 14.67 Pct
East_Med 13.19 Pct
Red_Sea 4.47 Pct
South_Asian 2.83 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.36 Pct
Siberian 3.25 Pct
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



Turk_Kavala

Population
North_Sea 21.40 Pct
Atlantic 12.55 Pct
Baltic 13.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.07 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 10.52 Pct
East_Med 17.84 Pct
Red_Sea 3.57 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.30 Pct
Siberian 1.80 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan


Turk_Komotini

Population
North_Sea 12.87 Pct
Atlantic 6.29 Pct
Baltic 9.55 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.40 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 17.38 Pct
East_Med 17.12 Pct
Red_Sea 3.50 Pct
South_Asian 3.30 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.70 Pct
Siberian 5.13 Pct
Amerindian 1.33 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Dobrich

Population
North_Sea 17.17 Pct
Atlantic 6.61 Pct
Baltic 13.01 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.68 Pct
West_Med 10.46 Pct
West_Asian 13.48 Pct
East_Med 15.29 Pct
Red_Sea 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 2.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.36 Pct
Siberian 4.89 Pct
Amerindian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.57 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct


Tatar_Dobrich

Population
North_Sea 12.77 Pct
Atlantic 6.88 Pct
Baltic 13.96 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.87 Pct
West_Med 4.60 Pct
West_Asian 10.79 Pct
East_Med 2.98 Pct
Red_Sea 1.33 Pct
South_Asian 2.54 Pct
Southeast_Asian 12.50 Pct
Siberian 16.26 Pct
Amerindian 1.18 Pct
Oceanian 0.42 Pct
Northeast_African 0.86 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.08 Pct


Turk_Tarnovo

Population
North_Sea 11.04 Pct
Atlantic 9.47 Pct
Baltic 12.71 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.49 Pct
West_Med 9.59 Pct
West_Asian 19.92 Pct
East_Med 16.31 Pct
Red_Sea 3.85 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 1.47 Pct
Siberian 3.50 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.64 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Kozani

Population
North_Sea 9.37 Pct
Atlantic 9.79 Pct
Baltic 9.05 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.61 Pct
West_Med 16.05 Pct
West_Asian 16.83 Pct
East_Med 24.85 Pct
Red_Sea 3.15 Pct
South_Asian 1.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 1.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.27 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.02 Pct



Turk_Thessaloniki

Population
North_Sea 14.01 Pct
Atlantic 16.13 Pct
Baltic 15.05 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.79 Pct
West_Med 11.95 Pct
West_Asian 12.28 Pct
East_Med 20.31 Pct
Red_Sea 2.62 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.86 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Kocani

Population
North_Sea 11.33 Pct
Atlantic 14.79 Pct
Baltic 16.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.63 Pct
West_Med 10.49 Pct
West_Asian 11.65 Pct
East_Med 15.56 Pct
Red_Sea 2.38 Pct
South_Asian 2.16 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Siberian 1.36 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African 0.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Skopje


Population
North_Sea 9.76 Pct
Atlantic 9.54 Pct
Baltic 9.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.25 Pct
West_Med 12.99 Pct
West_Asian 20.30 Pct
East_Med 24.04 Pct
Red_Sea 3.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.67 Pct
Siberian 2.04 Pct
Amerindian 0.69 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Bitola


Population
North_Sea 8.46 Pct
Atlantic 19.51 Pct
Baltic 14.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.80 Pct
West_Med 9.22 Pct
West_Asian 14.24 Pct
East_Med 15.73 Pct
Red_Sea 2.77 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.92 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

And to Hrvoje too. He plots almost like my sibling.

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That is shity things about autosomal. Someone can be closer to some unconected person than to own parents.

Autosomal should not be taken seriously, of course in reality you are closer to your father than to HL. Autosomal should be just a matter of fun. People who to much insist on autosomal or haplogroups have mental problem and they are not aware of that.

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Originally Posted by Pribislav

That is shity things about autosomal. Someone can be closer to some unconected person than to own parents.

Autosomal should not be taken seriously, of course in reality you are closer to your father than to HL. Autosomal should be just a matter of fun. People who to much insist on autosomal or haplogroups have mental problem and they are not aware of that.

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Haplogroups are more seriuos thing than autosomal. With the help of haplogroups we can reconstruct migrations in the past more precisely than any historian. On the other hand autosomal often can to bring confusion and false conclusions. Autosomal is interesting, but in the terms of reconstruction of history and ethno-genesis of populations y dna is more useful.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

Yes.

Turk_Edirne


Population
North_Sea 7.06 Pct
Atlantic 9.03 Pct
Baltic 12.95 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.77 Pct
West_Med 9.24 Pct
West_Asian 21.19 Pct
East_Med 17.58 Pct
Red_Sea 3.91 Pct
South_Asian 1.27 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.95 Pct
Siberian 4.32 Pct
Amerindian 0.50 Pct
Oceanian 0.24 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Razgrad

Population
North_Sea 7.78 Pct
Atlantic 13.20 Pct
Baltic 13.18 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.59 Pct
West_Med 10.18 Pct
West_Asian 16.46 Pct
East_Med 18.27 Pct
Red_Sea 1.79 Pct
South_Asian 0.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.92 Pct
Siberian 3.27 Pct
Amerindian 0.07 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.11 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Drama


Population
North_Sea 14.23 Pct
Atlantic 9.32 Pct
Baltic 12.12 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.06 Pct
West_Med 11.57 Pct
West_Asian 15.14 Pct
East_Med 18.38 Pct
Red_Sea 1.57 Pct
South_Asian 1.43 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 1.93 Pct
Amerindian 0.07 Pct
Oceanian 0.14 Pct
Northeast_African 0.08 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.21 Pct


Turk_Kardzhali

Population
North_Sea 9.03 Pct
Atlantic 9.59 Pct
Baltic 12.59 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.94 Pct
West_Med 7.20 Pct
West_Asian 16.56 Pct
East_Med 18.85 Pct
Red_Sea 3.27 Pct
South_Asian 4.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.99 Pct
Siberian 6.34 Pct
Amerindian 0.30 Pct
Oceanian 0.67 Pct
Northeast_African 0.37 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Varna

Population
North_Sea 8.97 Pct
Atlantic 11.09 Pct
Baltic 18.14 Pct
Eastern_Euro 7.58 Pct
West_Med 13.86 Pct
West_Asian 13.68 Pct
East_Med 17.97 Pct
Red_Sea 2.56 Pct
South_Asian 1.61 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.05 Pct
Siberian 3.39 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct


Turk_Silistra

Population
North_Sea 10.61 Pct
Atlantic 13.35 Pct
Baltic 13.83 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.68 Pct
West_Med 10.59 Pct
West_Asian 14.67 Pct
East_Med 13.19 Pct
Red_Sea 4.47 Pct
South_Asian 2.83 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.36 Pct
Siberian 3.25 Pct
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -



Turk_Kavala

Population
North_Sea 21.40 Pct
Atlantic 12.55 Pct
Baltic 13.52 Pct
Eastern_Euro 6.07 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 10.52 Pct
East_Med 17.84 Pct
Red_Sea 3.57 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.30 Pct
Siberian 1.80 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan


Turk_Komotini

Population
North_Sea 12.87 Pct
Atlantic 6.29 Pct
Baltic 9.55 Pct
Eastern_Euro 9.40 Pct
West_Med 12.43 Pct
West_Asian 17.38 Pct
East_Med 17.12 Pct
Red_Sea 3.50 Pct
South_Asian 3.30 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.70 Pct
Siberian 5.13 Pct
Amerindian 1.33 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Dobrich

Population
North_Sea 17.17 Pct
Atlantic 6.61 Pct
Baltic 13.01 Pct
Eastern_Euro 8.68 Pct
West_Med 10.46 Pct
West_Asian 13.48 Pct
East_Med 15.29 Pct
Red_Sea 2.52 Pct
South_Asian 2.59 Pct
Southeast_Asian 3.36 Pct
Siberian 4.89 Pct
Amerindian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.57 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.09 Pct


Tatar_Dobrich

Population
North_Sea 12.77 Pct
Atlantic 6.88 Pct
Baltic 13.96 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.87 Pct
West_Med 4.60 Pct
West_Asian 10.79 Pct
East_Med 2.98 Pct
Red_Sea 1.33 Pct
South_Asian 2.54 Pct
Southeast_Asian 12.50 Pct
Siberian 16.26 Pct
Amerindian 1.18 Pct
Oceanian 0.42 Pct
Northeast_African 0.86 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.08 Pct


Turk_Tarnovo

Population
North_Sea 11.04 Pct
Atlantic 9.47 Pct
Baltic 12.71 Pct
Eastern_Euro 11.49 Pct
West_Med 9.59 Pct
West_Asian 19.92 Pct
East_Med 16.31 Pct
Red_Sea 3.85 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 1.47 Pct
Siberian 3.50 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.64 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Kozani

Population
North_Sea 9.37 Pct
Atlantic 9.79 Pct
Baltic 9.05 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.61 Pct
West_Med 16.05 Pct
West_Asian 16.83 Pct
East_Med 24.85 Pct
Red_Sea 3.15 Pct
South_Asian 1.41 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.77 Pct
Siberian 1.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.27 Pct
Sub-Saharan 1.02 Pct



Turk_Thessaloniki

Population
North_Sea 14.01 Pct
Atlantic 16.13 Pct
Baltic 15.05 Pct
Eastern_Euro 5.79 Pct
West_Med 11.95 Pct
West_Asian 12.28 Pct
East_Med 20.31 Pct
Red_Sea 2.62 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.86 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Kocani

Population
North_Sea 11.33 Pct
Atlantic 14.79 Pct
Baltic 16.04 Pct
Eastern_Euro 12.63 Pct
West_Med 10.49 Pct
West_Asian 11.65 Pct
East_Med 15.56 Pct
Red_Sea 2.38 Pct
South_Asian 2.16 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.78 Pct
Siberian 1.36 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.58 Pct
Northeast_African 0.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Skopje


Population
North_Sea 9.76 Pct
Atlantic 9.54 Pct
Baltic 9.82 Pct
Eastern_Euro 4.25 Pct
West_Med 12.99 Pct
West_Asian 20.30 Pct
East_Med 24.04 Pct
Red_Sea 3.63 Pct
South_Asian 0.28 Pct
Southeast_Asian 2.67 Pct
Siberian 2.04 Pct
Amerindian 0.69 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -


Turk_Bitola


Population
North_Sea 8.46 Pct
Atlantic 19.51 Pct
Baltic 14.85 Pct
Eastern_Euro 10.80 Pct
West_Med 9.22 Pct
West_Asian 14.24 Pct
East_Med 15.73 Pct
Red_Sea 2.77 Pct
South_Asian -
Southeast_Asian 0.92 Pct
Siberian 2.73 Pct
Amerindian 0.19 Pct
Oceanian 0.59 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

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what is your atlantic percentage in k15? my atlantic percentage %6, my father's %3. i think too low. why?

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Originally Posted by karakartal

what is your atlantic percentage in k15? my atlantic percentage %6, my father's %3. i think too low. why?

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We are from Eastern Balkans, why should we score high percentage of Atlantic? I have 5.