Haha ok fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
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Haha ok fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
For record, I only made threads about specific I2a2b coming from slavic invasion, not all I2* variants. While I2 *could* have come with the migrations of I2a2b, who really knows, we know that the original people of the Balkans as well as entire Europe were I people. I is the true haplogroup of the Europeans. There is a study that the ancient Thracians, before even neolithic invasions, had the same haplogroup as Sardinians who are a I2* something people.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1stLightHorse
im j2b2 specifically
I've never done the test, but I'm pretty sure I'd come as R1b-S28/U152.
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Originally Posted by ninjerpander
Really?
I'm j2-m12
You are female are you not? Did your father or brother test?Quote:
Originally Posted by lianohortaroudia
There's a lot og G for sardinians too, though, and ancient G-men show sardinian affinity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan
According to this Sardinians are 42% haplogroup I (of which the majority is I2a1), the second most common haplogroup is R1b (22%) then G2a (15%). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sardinian_people#Y-DNAQuote:
Originally Posted by Melonhead
The one found most commonly in the Balkans is I2a2b. Very close but still separated from the Sardinian one by about 10,000 years. Now when you go back to I2 (which is the ancestor of the I2a and I2b lines) we talk about something in the neighborhood of 40,000 years. That's how old my specific one is.
G2 came to Europe during the neolithic invasions, it shows highest concentration in southern Kavkaz. The only true haplogroup of the Europeans (the oldest to Europe) are the I haplogroups.
M269+ L23-
According to the thesis of Francalacci there is a low internal diversity among sequenced I2a1 samples from Sardinia and everything points at a bottlekneck that had happened relatively recent. I think that neolithic Sardinians could've been predominantly G2a and E with some token I2 from assimilated hunters-gatherers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stefan_Dusan
brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
But Finns are Mongols, remember that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
J2b1 - M205
I dont know mine,but because of all the halogroup stuff on this forum I remembered my mother had some blood testing done on her a while back(health related) and her paper says she is I2.
I2 could be your mother's mtDNA haplogroup as I am sure you know women do not have Y-DNA.Quote:
Originally Posted by SvenDC
I have no Idea what both mean.Im not a gene scientist.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
Under her blood type which is 0 is a paragraph saying H-I2.
So your mom is a man?Quote:
Originally Posted by SvenDC
This is something else, she would need a genetic test not a blood test for her mtDNA to be read.Quote:
Originally Posted by SvenDC
So to give you a brief explanation, there is a haplogroup relevant to men, the Y-haplogroup, and a haplogroup relevant to women and men, mtDNA. Brief explanation of each;
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Y-haplogroup. There are two chromosomes for sex, X and Y. A woman has XX and a man has XY. The Y determines you being a man. When people reproduce, both the man and the woman donate a chromosome at random. Obviously a woman can only give X as she is XX but a man can give X or Y since he is XY. If he gives Y his child is a male, if he gives X, his child is a female. So the Y-chromosome is tied to your male line, the same Y-haplogroup you share with your father who shares with his father, all the way back thousands of years. It's insane to think about.
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mtDNA.
I don't know much about this, but I suspect it comes from the egg. Obviously the woman donates an egg, and the man a sperm to become a child. Inside this egg is mtDNA and as you mature inside this egg, you inherit this mtDNA. Since only your mother provides this egg, you share her mtDNA. Since her mother provided the egg for her, likewise all the way for thousands of years. Now you will also share this mtDNA with all your siblings being brothers or sisters since your mother's egg was used for all of you. But you will not share the mtDNA of your father since he got his from his mother's egg. With Y-haplogroup you will share with your brothers again (since they got from your father) but your sisters will not have it.
Yeah thanks for the clear up Stefan,I guess I should have posted that in the mtDna thread.
R1a-Z284+ :)
Apparently the viking clade of R1a :)
R1b1a2a
Probably some R1B branch.
mostly J2 middle-eastern.
Yes, probably, but don't vote if you don't know for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodrigo
I am now U152+ S20550+
My DYS511=9 which is not very common in current U152* but it remains to be seen if there is any connection :)
G2a for me. Likely G2a3b1a2a L497. Haven't been SNP'd yet.
E1b1b1 V32.
I have no clue! My Y-DNA stops right at R1b-L51... basically there is no way to know if I'm U106, U152 or whatever ; unless I pay $$$ for FTDNA I guess...
Well you do have a bit of a clue, don't you. Narrowed it down to R1b-L51.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchek
L51 is right before the "split" which determine if I'm an italo-celt, a basque or some germanic barbarian, so it doesn't say muchQuote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
1) Y-DNA doesn't determine ethnicity, or 40% of Aframs are Anglos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchek
2) You now know you're R1b. That means you're one of maybe 250 million, out of 7 billion. Narrowed it down a lot. That's not to mention the L51 split.
How do I figure out which branch I am of J1e?
My y-dna branch is R1b. My paternal haplogroup is the rare R-U198.
mothers mt-dna haplgroup is U5a1d.
All that being R1b says is that I'm western European... duh, could have guessed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
R1b is an extremely diverse haplogroup, there is little in common between a basque DF27 and a germanic U106
Are you kidding? They split less than 4,000 years ago. And 20-30% of Western Europeans are I, E3b, R1a, and others.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchek
You need to get more SNP's tested.Quote:
Originally Posted by DanielJ1eH
Lots happened in 4000 years in Europe, you know...Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Being U106 or U152 or L21 etc is important... it's a R1b thing, you wouldn't understand
Isn't genetic plotting on 23andme a better (or indeed best) example of determining ethnicity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
Genetic calculators in general, yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Argonian
You are tested by 23andme V2 or V3 chip? It should have consisted U152 and U106, so you are negative to them it seems. There are a few options for you - P312, P310, DF27Quote:
Originally Posted by Tchek