Maybe your dad had a little fun with an indian woman and then boom you came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
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Maybe your dad had a little fun with an indian woman and then boom you came out.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
How much more?Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
Could it be that both of your parents results combined to give you more?Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
That would mean my mom is Indian; and my mom also gets more South Asian than my dad, dipshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7eleven
FQQuote:
Originally Posted by Nabatea1
Population
North_Atlantic 26.89%
Baltic 7.16%
West_Med 14.44%
West_Asian 11.92%
East_Med 27.12%
Red_Sea 7.64%
South_Asian 1.45%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 0.76%
Oceanian 0.39%
Northeast_African 1.59%
Sub-Saharan 0.60%
FQ Dad
Population
North_Atlantic 4.78%
Baltic -
West_Med 13.50%
West_Asian 16.87%
East_Med 46.53%
Red_Sea 14.63%
South_Asian 0.77%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.08%
Northeast_African 2.84%
Sub-Saharan -
FQ Maw
Population
North_Atlantic 45.66%
Baltic 23.10%
West_Med 12.56%
West_Asian 7.56%
East_Med 7.41%
Red_Sea 0.71%
South_Asian 0.84%
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian 1.05%
Oceanian 0.47%
Northeast_African 0.63%
Sub-Saharan -
^^It's pretty much a similar situation on almost every calculator.......:....
^ probably noise I would say then based on this.
Looks pretty noisy. I would not worry about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
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Originally Posted by Nabatea1
No ancient Veddoid connections in ancient Arabia for my dad?! :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
Or maybe since U2e diverged from South Asian U2i 50kya it is left over in my mom?!:confused:
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:lol: :PQuote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
I got 2.6 south asian as well which is pretty weird, but it might have something to do with my central asian ancestry.
Eurogenes K13(Chromosome View):
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/...psfcf96b23.png
(My results, repost):
1 North_Atlantic 49.13
2 Baltic 23.1
3 West_Med 13.42
4 East_Med 5.87
5 West_Asian 4.56
6 South_Asian 1.8
7 Sub-Saharan 1.27
8 Amerindian 0.56
9 Siberian 0.29
Decided to add a PCA:
http://i1154.photobucket.com/albums/...ps991722f0.gif
Spaniard in denial?
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.76
2 West_Med 26.6
3 East_Med 22.17
4 Baltic 8.6
5 West_Asian 6.04
6 South_Asian 0.38
7 Red_Sea 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.19
9 Oceanian 0.01
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 5.74
2 Spanish_Andalucia 8.36
3 Spanish_Valencia 8.69
4 Spanish_Murcia 8.89
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.03
6 Tuscan 9.39
7 Portuguese 9.44
8 Spanish_Cataluna 10.17
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.54
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.75
11 Spanish_Galicia 11.2
12 Spanish_Aragon 12.39
13 Spanish_Cantabria 12.8
14 Southwest_French 14.59
15 French 15.74
16 Greek 19.99
17 Romanian 20.16
18 Bulgarian 20.7
19 South_Italian 21
20 Serbian 21.69
http://i44.tinypic.com/2hrpf7d.png
No surprise there. Northern Italians and Iberians are very genetically close to each other. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombard
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I'm tired of explaining that South Asian like ancestry of West and North Eurasians is ANI, not ASI but hey i'll quote Davidski..
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ASI ancestry among the Indian samples in this study is represented by the South Asian, Oceanian and East Asian components. But these three components make up 90-100% of the genetic structure of the Indians. This leaves almost no room for ANI, unless a large part of the South Asian component shared by the Indian samples is in fact ANI.
What this suggests is that the Mal'ta South Asian component is 100% ANI, of the same type that is seen in West Asia and Europe today. This makes sense considering that archeologically the Mal'ta site shows links to European sites where ASI was unlikely to have been present before the Ice Age, and where it's not present today.
The Mal'ta population had archeological and genetic ties with people who were the ancestors of present day Europeans and West Asians, and they passed on their South Asian-like and Oceanian-like admixture to them. So if this is ASI, it's not the same ASI as in South Asia today.
South Asians are more drifted than West Asians and Europeans, so some of the ancestry they share with these groups gets lumped into a South Asian-specific cluster which has nothing to do with the component we know as Ancestral South Asian (ASI).
Are North Italians closer to Tuscans or Iberians?Quote:
Originally Posted by FaerieQueene
Sure but this goes for all components.Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
But ANI, as its close cousin "West Asian", isn't purely West Eurasian though:
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Do you think then that the West_Med, East_Med and West_Asian components are composed of majority Neolithic alleles?
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West Med and East Med should be purely Neolithic, but West Asian is heavily mixed, and probably has a lot of that Eurasian mammoth-steppe influence that came out South Asian in the study of the Mal'ta genome.
''South Asia'' label here is South Asia according to todays admixures, not same as the Mal'ta boy's era. Mal'ta boy's ''South Asia'' mixed with ASI people at neolithic, which wasn't South Asia before that time, it is some sort of Central Asian. And we know that Central Asia was part of West Eurasian continuum until Bronze age.Quote:
Originally Posted by chwarae
Jackson here's the dendogram at macro settings.. I don't think it is solid for everyone, some may fall into a sister micro clade..
http://abload.de/img/k13_mfa_macroe9x79.png
Do you know what the ancestry of the individual called Bubbles is? I am right next to him/her on the dendogram. I am closer to that person there than I am to my own brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
I don't know who Bubbles, Gorilla, Blondie are, SeaWarrior send them to me.. Somesort of Euro mutts from US I guess..Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaxman
Either way my results again seem to make me land somewhere in Central Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Probably Tuscans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombard
I think its the Gedrosia component.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7eleven
Does this mean I'm closer to albanian than to greek?Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Paschalisb this Greek sample is probably not very representative of the Greeks from our regions so we appear closer to albanians. have you posted results here? mine are at start I think somewhere.I am full thessalian.Quote:
Originally Posted by paschalisb
I've posted mine too. I'm part Thessalian by the way.
I am not sure, you are probably one of those who thrown away to sister branch Albanian, because of Bulgarian is further away and you are still a bit Northern compared to Greek sample.. If there would be a Makedonian sample maybe you would have been in that clade.. What i see on the MDS plot you are drifted to Balkan with slight pull to Anatolia..Quote:
Originally Posted by paschalisb
This is Albanian average(n=9)
22,62 North Atlantic
16,29 Baltic
21,34 West Med
11,77 West Asian
23,71 East Med
3,02 Red Sea
0,03 South Asian
0,63 East Asian
0,18 Siberian
0,08 Amerindian
0,32 Oceanian
0,01 Northeast African
0,00 Sub-Saharan
Can you tell that I let them pick their own nicknames...? LOL!Quote:
Originally Posted by MfA_
Anyway, here is their known ancestry:
Bubbles - Overwhelmingly German with a large portion coming from former Prussia and some from Austria/Bohemia. Pretty much always has German as a first match, but shows a bit of a pull east of Germany
Gorilla - Known ancestry is English, Irish, German and French. Some possible unkown ancestry provides a pull towards the Caucasus
Blondie - Known ancestry is English, Irish, and German. Not much is known regarding ancestral origins
Sea Warrior's Grandmother - Mostly of English ancestry with some Scottish. Possibly a small amount of Continental European ancestry.
Sea Warrior's Mother - Mostly West German and Austrian with some Swedish and French ancestry.
Hope this helps.
Sea Warrior
In your case you are closer to many Spaniards before Tuscans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombard
Here are my results you can compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lombard
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...ps4hgkiikc.jpg
Thanks Sea Warrior! As you probably read above already I am right next to Bubbles on the dendogram.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sea Warrior
My mother (NW Brittany) : her closest populations are those from the british Isles.
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 50.34
2 Baltic 22.26
3 West_Med 13.53
4 West_Asian 7.6
5 East_Med. 2.41
6 South_Asian 2.11
7 Amerindian 1.23
8 Sub-Saharan 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.03
# Population (source) Distance
1 Irish 3.16
2 Orcadian 3.61
3 Southwest_English 3.71
4 West_Scottish 3.72
5 Southeast_English 3.97
6 Danish 4.21
7 Dutch 4.82
8 German 6.46
9 Norwegian 7.8
10 Swedish 9.35
11 French 12.33
12 North_Swedish 15.54
13 Austrian 17.82
14 Hungarian 19.01
15 Spanish_Cataluna 19.19
16 Southwest_French 20.22
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 20.46
18 Spanish_Cantabria 20.66
19 Spanish_Galicia 20.71
20 Portuguese 21.07
My results (eurogenes FR18) NW Brittany, closer to germanic peoples.
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 45.64
2 Baltic 23.28
3 West_Med 15.5
4 West_Asian 8.29
5 East_Med 3.21
6 South_Asan 2.08
7 Amerindian 1.38
8 Northeast_African 0.63
# Population (source) Distance
1 German 4.54
2 Dutch 5.22
3 Southeast_English 5.98
4 Orcadian 6.61
5 Southwest_English 6.69
6 Irish 6.94
7 Danish 7.1
8 West_Scottish 7.79
9 Norwegian 9.06
10 Swedish 10.01
11 French 10.06
12 Austrian 14.15
13 North_Swedish 15
14 Hungarian 15.31
15 Spanish_Cataluna 17.21
16 Southwest_French 18.22
17 Spanish_Galicia 18.35
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.49
19 Spanish_Cantabria 18.74
20 Portuguese 18.77
Population
North_Atlantic 20.55%
Baltic 7.61%
West_Med 21.38%
West_Asian 14.64%
East_Med 27.04%
Red_Sea 6.56%
South_Asian -
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.88%
Northeast_African 0.55%
Sub-Saharan 0.78%
Pct. Calc. Option 2
1 South_Italian 47.91%
2 Sephardic_Jewish 15.84%
3 Finnish 9.06%
4 French_Basque 6.30%
5 North_Ossetian 5.49%
6 Georgian 4.45%
7 Moroccan 3.90%
8 Mozabite_Berber 3.30%
9 Algerian 2.65%
10 Spanish_Andalucia 1.08%
Pct. Calc. Option 1
1 South_Italian 65.93%
2 Bulgarian 10.42%
3 French_Basque 10.09%
4 Chechen 5.46%
5 Saudi 4.01%
6 Greek 3.80%
7 Papuan 0.29%
8 Finnish 0.00%
9 Romanian 0.00%
10 Serbian 0.00%
My known ancestries: ~25% Finnish, ~75% Northern-Norwegian
North_Atlantic 41.04
Baltic 33.44
West_Med 8.97
East_Med 5.01
Siberian 3.39
West_Asian 3.38
Red_Sea 1.42
Amerindian 1.32
South_Asian 0.99
Oceanian 0.81
Northeast_African 0.22
88.7% North_Swedish + 11.3% Ashkenazi @ 1.35
90.1% North_Swedish + 9.9% Sephardic_Jewish @ 1.6
91.4% North_Swedish + 8.6% Cyprian @ 1.7
89.4% North_Swedish + 10.6% South_Italian @ 1.71
92.1% North_Swedish + 7.9% Samaritan @ 1.72
88% North_Swedish + 12% Greek @ 1.74
92.3% North_Swedish + 7.7% Lebanese_Christian @ 1.82
81.5% North_Swedish + 18.5% Romanian @ 1.89
86.6% North_Swedish + 13.4% Tuscan @ 1.92
83.4% North_Swedish + 16.6% Bulgarian @ 1.95
92% North_Swedish + 8% Palestinian @ 1.99
78.3% North_Swedish + 21.7% Serbian @ 2
Could the Serbian, Bulgarian, Greek, Italian thing be the reason why I got haplogroup J2b2?
Any scandinavians here with similar results?
Looks like you certainly have a bit of a small Southeastern pull.Quote:
Originally Posted by drogin
Cool, another J2b2 carrier. You are the first one I met here and the second one I met in total. We are a rare bunch. Wouldn't have expected somebody from Scandinavia, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by drogin
It is the other way around, your paternal line, J2b2, would be the reason for your elevated East_Med and Red_Sea admixture. Either it's quite recent (one paternal ancestor a couple of generations ago). Or it's old and the region your paternal line comes from must have been settled by people from somewhere much more south-eastern originally, resulting in elevated amounts of East_Med and Red_Sea admixture in the region.Quote:
Could the Serbian, Bulgarian, Greek, Italian thing be the reason why I got haplogroup J2b2?
Very nice results......your results showcase, quite nicely, why South Italians plot where they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by the nihilist
Your phenotype compliments your results nicely as well.
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psfrewp0ns.jpg
Seems to be pretty accurate; my known ancestry is from the British Isles (~70%), Ireland (~5%), and Germany (~25%).
The Oracle, like usual, is giving silly results, though. Spanish? Hungarian? Serbian?
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.96
2 Baltic 23.55
3 West_Med 15.55
4 East_Med 4.29
5 West_Asian 4.23
6 Red_Sea 1.45
7 Sub-Saharan 1.18
8 Siberian 0.54
9 South_Asian 0.22
10 East_Asian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Southeast_English 3.12
2 Southwest_English 3.71
3 Dutch 4.28
4 Orcadian 4.32
5 Danish 5.17
6 Irish 5.47
7 German 5.6
8 West_Scottish 5.62
9 Norwegian 8.22
10 Swedish 9.34
11 French 10.15
12 North_Swedish 14.72
13 Austrian 16.13
14 Spanish_Cataluna 17.03
15 Hungarian 17.37
16 Southwest_French 17.84
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 18.12
18 Spanish_Galicia 18.29
19 Spanish_Cantabria 18.41
20 Portuguese 18.75
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.7% Orcadian + 17.3% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.05
2 83.8% Southwest_English + 16.2% Austrian @ 2.06
3 84.8% Southwest_English + 15.2% Hungarian @ 2.06
4 86.7% Dutch + 13.3% French_Basque @ 2.07
5 87.7% Southwest_English + 12.3% Serbian @ 2.08
6 84.5% Dutch + 15.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.08
7 92.6% Orcadian + 7.4% Sardinian @ 2.15
8 72% Norwegian + 28% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.19
9 83.4% Orcadian + 16.6% Portuguese @ 2.2
10 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.23
11 84.6% Orcadian + 15.4% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.23
12 72.9% Orcadian + 27.1% French @ 2.26
13 83.3% Orcadian + 16.7% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.27
14 89.5% Southwest_English + 10.5% Romanian @ 2.28
15 83.5% Dutch + 16.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.28
16 82.2% Orcadian + 17.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.29
17 69.3% Swedish + 30.7% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.3
18 82.9% Orcadian + 17.1% Southwest_French @ 2.31
19 79.3% Danish + 20.7% Southwest_French @ 2.31
20 90.6% Southwest_English + 9.4% Bulgarian @ 2.31
^oracle doesn't tell you what your ethnicity is, all it does is give you the best possibilities based on your results.
Still, the "best possibilities" in this case don't seem very likely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaita
The best Oracle I've seen is EUTest V2, and even it did something like 99% English.
I'm not quite sure how Oracle works, but to me, it seems like a useful feature would be if you could manually set which groups are used in the calculations, so that it gives more reasonable results, instead of trying to fit someone who is pred. NW Euro with Bulgarians and Serbians.
Btw the Spanish results aren't silly, because your results have the same components as the Iberian results. It's just that the numbers vary abit percentage wise on each component.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thor2009
Mine for example:
http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/a...psnuwmqrb1.png