Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

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Originally Posted by Mejgus[B

[/B]u;7089812]@Leto as far I know(i once made a y-dna map if Turkey lol) there is one person with haplogroup O in Tunceli. Also it seems this haplogroup is existing, even it is very rare, among Anatolian Turks. On the other hand i never saw haplogroup C in Turkey. We need more samples but I carefully claim that this is not of Mongolian origin, it seems they didn’t left any genetic trace in Anatolia(even not Y-Dna).

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Like these two Turkish samples from the journal research article "The genetic structure of the Turkish population":

SRS8752578/TR-N24
Gedmatch Kit Number: KT9843959
Ydna: O-Y14462 https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y14462/ [/B] Mtdna: T1a1 https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1a1/

Gedrosia 15.15 Pct
Siberian 4.62 Pct
Northwest_African 1.17 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 13.87 Pct
North_European 10.27 Pct
South_Asian 1.05 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.56 Pct
East_Asian 5.38 Pct
Caucasus 36.6 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.34 Pct

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 10.538938
2 Turks_Behar @ 10.674367
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 16.447598
4 Lebanese_Behar @ 17.314287
5 Kurd_Dodecad @ 17.827120
6 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 18.000826
7 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.051088
8 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 18.573223
9 Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 19.083956
10 Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 19.156813
11 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 19.490728
12 Ashkenazi_Dodecad @ 19.605207
13 Iranians_Behar @ 20.129820
14 S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.137522
15 Syrians_Behar @ 20.193918
16 Cypriots_Behar @ 20.440783
17 Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 20.737528
18 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 20.877165
19 Sicilian_Dodecad @ 20.922476
20 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 21.280399

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar +50% Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 4.848722


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar +25% O_Italian_Dodecad +25% Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.170918


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Armenian_Dodecad + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.064093
2 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.148623
3 Assyrian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.167075
4 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.170918
5 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.219484
6 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.221625
7 Assyrian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.296650
8 Assyrian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.297603
9 C_Italian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.306015
10 Armenian_Dodecad + Iraq_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.306782
11 Armenian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.316679
12 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.337570
13 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.356321
14 Assyrian_Dodecad + C_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.376888
15 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.407620
16 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.569040
17 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + O_Italian_Dodecad + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.613130
18 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Georgia_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.629331
19 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Tuscan_HGDP + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.633304
20 Georgia_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + TSI30_Metspalu + Uzbeks_Behar @ 1.680898

SRS8752205/TR-C16
Gedmatch Kit Number: FS1578762
Ydna: O-MF87972 https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-MF87972/ Mtdna: T1b4 https://www.yfull.com/mtree/T1b4/

Gedrosia 13.01 Pct
Siberian 1.46 Pct
Northwest_African 0.82 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 11.73 Pct
North_European 9 Pct
South_Asian 1.06 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 12.7 Pct
East_Asian 3.21 Pct
Caucasus 46.58 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.43 Pct

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Turkish_Dodecad @ 3.465718
2 Turks_Behar @ 4.046715
3 Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 11.712509
4 Georgia_Jews_Behar @ 12.058392
5 Armenian_Dodecad @ 12.435893
6 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev @ 12.757170
7 Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar @ 13.235887
8 Assyrian_Dodecad @ 13.502331
9 Cypriots_Behar @ 14.055245
10 Lebanese_Behar @ 14.555731
11 Druze_HGDP @ 14.771879
12 Armenians_Behar @ 15.114288
13 Iranian_Jews_Behar @ 16.000877
14 Iraq_Jews_Behar @ 16.213833
15 Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 17.271379
16 Kumyks_Yunusbayev @ 17.766714
17 Kurd_Dodecad @ 18.338299
18 Iranian_Dodecad @ 18.730408
19 Syrians_Behar @ 18.964449
20 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar @ 19.443567

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Turkish_Dodecad +50% Turks_Behar @ 3.318744


Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Armenians_15_Yunusbayev +25% Nogais_Yunusbayev +25% Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.683592


Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Georgians_Behar + Greek_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.154946
2 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.163674
3 C_Italian_Dodecad + Georgians_Behar + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.187079
4 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.198841
5 Armenian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar @ 2.236904
6 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.242605
7 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Samaritians_Behar + Sicilian_Dodecad + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.267072
8 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.268383
9 Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.287608
10 Georgians_Behar + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Samaritians_Behar + Turkmens_Yunusbayev @ 2.291774
11 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Azerbaijan_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.306846
12 Armenians_15_Yunusbayev + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.311067
13 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.323125
14 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 2.335863
15 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.348315
16 Iraq_Jews_Behar + North_Ossetians_Yunusbayev + S_Italian_Sicilian_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 2.351896
17 Armenian_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev + Uzbekistan_Jews_Behar @ 2.351982
18 Balkars_Yunusbayev + Iraq_Jews_Behar + Sephardic_Jews_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 2.378908
19 Ashkenazy_Jews_Behar + Assyrian_Dodecad + Georgia_Jews_Behar + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.379845
20 Armenian_Dodecad + Ashkenazi_Dodecad + Assyrian_Dodecad + Nogais_Yunusbayev @ 2.380053

They all seem to be sharing a common ancestor with the other Chinese samples.

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Originally Posted by shuzam87

That's interesting and rare. It's my first time seeing O-M95 in Turks btw.

I have also seen Turk who tested O-F8 and O-F706 from the previous 23andme Reddit and forum before. This guy from Turkey who got O-F8 as Ydna and W6 as mtDNA: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...theast_turkey/

There are also people from Russia who tested under the O-M95 subclade before on Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y68888/

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Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

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Originally Posted by Sora

Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

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First one could be from Central parts, second one is indeed interesting having low Gedrosia, otherwise I would surely say he is from NE-Turkey.

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Originally Posted by Sora

Seriously interesting! I wonder their actual province they're from in Turkey

Btw, I recognized you from somewhere but couldn't remember

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Prob from Anthrogenica :thumb001: As for the two Turkish DNA samples, the first guy was from Northern Turkey and the second guy was from Central Turkey. Unfortunately, I forgot where is the O-F706 Turkish guy from again but I did save his 23andme result:

Attachment 113200

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Target: SRS8752578
Distance: 1.5619% / 1.56187951 | ADC: 0.5x RC
32.3 Turkmen_Turkmenistan
31.3 Greek_Cappadocia
22.3 Greek_Kos
10.1 Kurd_Sorani
4.0 Circassian


Target: SRS8752578
Distance: 1.5891% / 1.58906859 | ADC: 0.5x RC
43.7 Turkmen_Iran
32.6 Greek_Cappadocia
23.5 Greek_Kos
0.2 Circassian


Target: Tat_khizi
Distance: 1.9951% / 1.99505199 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.0 Kurd_Sorani
43.0 Circassian

Target: Tat_khizi
Distance: 1.1432% / 1.14324201 | ADC: 0.25x RC
35.8 Kurd_Sorani
17.0 Adyghe
15.9 Circassian
13.2 Chechen
11.7 Iranian_Zoroastrian
4.1 Yemenite_Mahra
2.3 Greek_Fournoi



Target: Azeri_mianeh
Distance: 1.1393% / 1.13927886 | ADC: 0.25x RC
50.6 Iranian_Central
26.6 Circassian
10.8 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
7.3 Greek_Crete
4.2 Kuwait2
0.5 Palestinian_Christian

Target: Azeri_mianeh
Distance: 2.1817% / 2.18166318 | ADC: 0.5x RC
57.1 Iranian_Central
18.1 Circassian
13.4 Greek_Crete
11.4 Turkmen_Turkmenistan

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Originally Posted by shuzam87

That's interesting and rare. It's my first time seeing O-M95 in Turks btw.

I have also seen Turk who tested O-F8 and O-F706 from the previous 23andme Reddit and forum before. This guy from Turkey who got O-F8 as Ydna and W6 as mtDNA: https://www.reddit.com/r/23andme/com...theast_turkey/

There are also people from Russia who tested under the O-M95 subclade before on Yfull: https://www.yfull.com/tree/O-Y68888/

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There are quite a few Azerbaijanis with ydna O.

For example this one is paternally from Tabriz and maternally Persian from Teheran, his Y-DNA is O2a1c2:

Gedrosian: 24.33
Siberian: 3.13
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.30
Atlantic_Med: 7.38
North_European: 8.28
South_Asian 1.70
East_African 0.06
Southwest_Asian: 12.49
East_Asian: 0.59
Caucasian: 39.51
SSA: 1.24

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Begtios

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.

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Is this your result? The closest population are Turkmens from Iraq, although this result is a bit more northern than usual and has higher mongoloid:

Distance to: Test
3.72252602 Turkmen_Iraq
4.87385884 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.06388191 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.10077445 Turk_Southeast
5.56886883 Azerbaijani_Republic
6.07710457 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.19518361 Zaza/Kurd_Turkey
6.31670009 Yazidi
6.98540622 Iraqi_Baghdad
7.12995792 Kurd_Sorani
8.11699452 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.47338775 Iranian_Lur
8.80461811 Kurd_Feyli
8.84341563 Turk_Central_East
8.92802330 Iranian_Central
9.47652362 Turk_South
9.60339523 Iranian_Fars
9.64355225 Turk_East
9.98526915 Iranian_Zoroastrian
10.23688429 Mandean
10.26751187 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.60390966 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.63962875 Turk_Central_West
10.83630011 Iranian_Arab
11.09472397 Azerbaijani_Jew

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Originally Posted by Sterling Archer

Is this your result? The closest population are Turkmens from Iraq, although this result is a bit more northern than usual and has higher mongoloid.

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Not mine.

I don't trust the Turkmen_Iraq average in Vahaduo. I think they got the samples from the Iraqi DNA Project. I'm trying to create my own average cuz i don't think Iraqi DNA Project has done a clean job there. For now there are two samples, both from Kirkuk and they are pretty close to each other. They are 8/8 Iraqi Turkmen. When I calculate the distance with using the dual tool in Vahaduo, my samples tend to slightly shift towards Western Anatolia.

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Originally Posted by Begtios

Can you guys interpret this?

Test,21.2,3.21,0.20,0.95,9.09,6.36,1.76,1.04,16.06 ,2.13,38.02,0

Thanks.

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Target: Test
Distance: 1.6886% / 1.68856665 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.2 Iranian_Lur
31.3 Assyrian_North
15.7 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
6.9 Greek_Central
4.9 Bedouin


Target: Test
Distance: 1.6376% / 1.63760956 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.3 Kurd_Sorani
30.8 Assyrian_West
16.3 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
4.7 Greek_Kos
3.9 Bedouin