Con eso dudo que podamos por ahora sacar muchas conclusiones sobre diferencias , al menos en Portugal.
Pero siempre será mejor que tener solo una referencia para todo el país, al menos en cuestión de distancias.
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Con eso dudo que podamos por ahora sacar muchas conclusiones sobre diferencias , al menos en Portugal.
Pero siempre será mejor que tener solo una referencia para todo el país, al menos en cuestión de distancias.
Don´t you score score anything in Extremadura?Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Seems i don't. I edited the : in the Açores and Madeira samples so that they don't join:Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Target: Damião_de_Góis
Distance: 2.5722% / 2.57215913
66.4 Portugal_Sul
19.3 Portugal_Açores
11.3 España_Castellón
3.0 Portugal_Aveiro
Distance to: Damião_de_Góis
2.74156889 Portugal_Sul:(n=4)
3.50894571 España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4)
3.70033782 España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4)
3.93218769 Portugal_Aveiro:(n=4)
4.42863410 Portugal_Açores:(n=3)
4.45150536 Portugal_Madeira:(n=2)
5.23198815 España_Extremadura:(n=3)
5.90060166 España_Castellón:(n=3)
6.05309838 España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
6.06150971 España_Asturias:(n=3)
7.60449867 España_Cantabria:(n=2)
13.08084477 España_Álava:(n=4)
Target: gixajo
Distance: 5.0559% / 5.05585545
64.7 España_Andalucía
32.2 España_Álava
3.1 España_Cantabria
Distance to: gixajo
5.71505031 España_Asturias:(n=3)
5.89144295 España_Cantabria:(n=2)
6.28031050 España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
7.37522881 España_Castellón:(n=3)
7.76029639 Portugal_Madeira:(n=2)
8.18349559 España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4)
8.27116679 España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4)
8.75260533 Portugal_Sul:(n=4)
8.98981646 España_Álava:(n=4)
9.91558369 España_Extremadura:(n=3)
10.07892355 Portugal_Açores:(n=3)
10.28189671 Portugal_Aveiro:(n=4)
********************************
Target: gixajo_dad
Distance: 2.6475% / 2.64747049
100.0 España_Andalucía
Distance to: gixajo_dad
2.64747049 España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
5.40947317 España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4)
5.46620527 España_Extremadura:(n=3)
5.79109661 Portugal_Madeira:(n=2)
5.84395414 España_Asturias:(n=3)
6.08513763 España_Cantabria:(n=2)
6.12250766 Portugal_Açores:(n=3)
6.24201890 España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4)
7.01405019 Portugal_Sul:(n=4)
7.11311465 Portugal_Aveiro:(n=4)
8.69914938 España_Castellón:(n=3)
12.19416254 España_Álava:(n=4)
***********************************
Target: gixajo_mom
Distance: 2.8361% / 2.83611646
54.0 España_Álava
45.2 España_Cantabria
0.8 España_Andalucía
Distance to: gixajo_mom
4.52078533 España_Álava:(n=4)
4.97700713 España_Cantabria:(n=2)
5.96922943 España_Asturias:(n=3)
6.91593088 España_Castellón:(n=3)
8.53009965 España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6)
8.68043202 Portugal_Madeira:(n=2)
9.13229982 España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4)
9.56978056 España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4)
9.88551466 Portugal_Sul:(n=4)
11.39301102 Portugal_Aveiro:(n=4)
11.48558662 España_Extremadura:(n=3)
11.52672547 Portugal_Açores:(n=3)
I´ve corrected it, sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
Quite strange my father has not score any Portugal, surely that will change when i add more samples to these means.
It will be necessary to remove the parentheses also so that they stop showing emoticons in the results ...;)
Coordenadas españolas (aún faltan por añadir), de kits de Gedmatch y obtenidas de los foros.
Como falta variedad de zonas,especialmente de más al sur y gallegos, si juntamos las coordenadas individuales portuguesas y españolas, los españoles saldremos practicamente portugueses.
La gran mayoría de kits que faltan por hacer son del estudio con el que se hicieron las muestras catalanas que hay en el G25, así que aún cuando estén todas(he añadido ya Pero-barcelona. Terres del Ebre y algunos samples mas), no van a aportar mucho más a lo que hay, y seguiremos necesitando más gallegos, andaluces, extremeños,castellano leoneses, manchegos, murcianos, baleares...
Mirad en distancias antes con vuestras coordenadas para ver como están etiquetadas, para quitarlas de las "sources".
Recuerdo las muestras individuales portuguesas:Code:España:foro44,42.01,9.75,28.02,0.06,14.27,2.69,0,0.53,0.06,0,1.77,0,0.84
España:foro45,42.86,9.74,26.4,3,11.98,3.87,0,1.07,0,0.08,0,0.62,0.39
España:foro46,40.58,11.47,28.92,1.93,8.38,3.39,0,0.42,0.72,0.69,0.92,2.51,0.07
España:foro40,40.89,10.96,29.34,2.59,13.46,0,0.45,0,0.92,0,0.23,1.17,0
España:foro41,38.38,14.1,25.95,0,12.97,4.9,0,0,0,0.73,0.75,2.19,0
España:foro42,42.08,13.24,28.76,0.5,12.28,0.2,0.52,0,0.71,0.56,0,0.87,0.28
España:foro43,39.11,12.88,28.57,0.26,13.45,3.98,0,0,0,0,0.82,0.93,0
España:foro1,39.27,10.44,28.74,0.00,13.83,4.09,0.00,0.63,0.14,0.00,0.22,0.00,2.63
España:foro2,39.52,12.10,28.36,1.00,11.77,2.11,0.00,0.00,1.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,3.91
España:foro3,40.81,10.00,29.04,5.79,6.81,3.11,0.00,0.00,1.32,0.00,0.24,2.34,0.54
España:foro4,36.85,6.93,27.83,2.20,16.95,2.02,0.86,1.98,0.00,0.40,0.00,3.99,0.00
España:foro5,37.16,9.88,28.16,4.72,13.66,3.10,0.65,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.76,1.86,0.04
España:foro6,37.51,10.67,30.89,0.89,11.26,5.23,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.17,0.65,1.43,1.28
España:foro7,40.33,8.07,29.68,1.68,10.13,5.70,1.22,0.00,0.00,0.95,0.07,0.76,1.41
España:foro8,40.02,7.80,30.16,0.00,12.56,2.29,2.03,1.31,0.00,0.00,0.73,0.00,3.11
España:foro9,40.79,12.54,23.00,4.94,12.74,0.00,0.00,1.63,0.00,0.00,0.87,1.37,0.00
España:foro10,41.06,11.68,30.06,2.10,7.08,5.14,0.90,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.76,1.24,0.00
España:foro11,45.99,9.31,28.93,0.00,10.61,2.23,0.00,0.83,0.00,0.00,0.52,1.33,0.25
España:foro12,45.2,11.73,29.98,0.00,8.19,2.57,0.67,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.00,1.17
España:foro13,38.49,13.61,24.52,1.12,14.78,3.03,0.36,0.56,0.00,0.11,0.22,1.13,2.06
España:foro14,41.09,10.94,24.95,5.93,13.69,0.60,0.00,0.00,0.48,0.24,0.07,1.90,0.11
España:foro15,37.95,11.56,27.84,2.75,12.09,3.31,0.91,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,1.01,1.71
España:foro16,46.38,4.95,26.19,2.11,11.71,3.98,0.46,0.16,0.00,0.00,0.55,1.7,1.81
España:foro17,41.00,10.57,30.54,3.94,10.93,0.00,0.32,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.38,0.31,2.01
España:foro18,43.54,10.98,29.83,0.90,10.52,2.33,0,0.64,0,0,0,1.15,0.11
España:foro19,40.58,11.44,28.93,1.94,8.39,3.39,0,0.42,0.73,0.69,0.93,2.5,0.07
España:foro20,40.77,5.69,30.92,0.61,14.16,2.24,0.8,0,0,1.11,1.07,2.62,0
España:foro21,41.56,9.06,23.24,0,18.74,3.08,0.11,1.11,0,0.88,0.36,0,1.85
España:foro22,42.91,8.03,29.07,0.61,14.43,3.08,0.41,0.29,0,1.17,0,0,0
España:foro23,40.18,11.72,25.49,1.37,15.92,3.30,0,0.84,0,0.28,0,0.57,0.33
España:foro24,42.19,10.15,29.67,0,10.68,4.05,0,0,0,0.44,0.77,2.05,0
España:foro25,37.72,13.06,24.50,0.27,14.41,4.97,0,1.69,0.26,0.86,0.35,0.16,1.75
España:foro26,43.75,8.35,32.28,0,10.29,1.32,2.97,0,0,0.17,0,0.49,0.36
España:foro27,41.18,10.46,30.08,5.78,9.35,1.61,0.00,0.08,0.00,0.00,0.88,0.53,0.00
España:foro28,40.54,8.13,27.18,0,17.73,2.93,0.00,0.32,0.00,1.25,0.98,0.66,0.27
España:foro29,40.93,11.79,28.52,5.3,8.67,1.95,0.26,0.7,0.12,0.14,0.71,0.21,0.70
España:foro30,46,6.91,24.8,5.14,12.25,1.63,0.00,1.36,0.00,0.14,0,0.87,0.91
España:foro31,42.39,12.61,25.51,1.97,12.7,2.2,0.00,0.00,0.39,0.95,0.34,0.00,0.95
España:foro32,34.79,10.34,27.34,2.46,18.38,3.11,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.86,2.27,0.43
España:foro33,37.56,10.64,25.55,5.09,14.58,3.85,0.00,0.29,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.73,0.71
España:foro34,44.02,7.56,30.17,0.47,11.8,2.79,0.07,1.51,1.51,0.00,0.17,0.00,1.18
España:foro35,38.31,11.79,32.21,0.00,12.32,0.00,2.05,0.00,0.62,0.00,0.06,1.24,1.31
España:foro36,34.09,12.00,24.57,7.19,17.18,2.27,0.00,0.16,0.00,0.51,0.69,1.33,0.00
España:foro37,37.58,7.15,27.76,1.45,15.79,4.82,0.00,0.32,0.00,1.38,0.34,1.40,2.00
España:foro38,38.03,10.51,27.34,1.86,14.58,3.64,0.00,0.90,0.00,0.00,0.92,1.48,0.73
España:foro39,36.5,10.59,27.59,5.58,14.89,1.56,0,0.68,0,0,0.42,1 .2,0.98
España:kit31,41.97,9.47,27.66,2.31,14.19,2.62,0,0,0.08,0.47,0.28,0,0.94
España:kit30,39.46,12.88,25.44,2.43,13.33,3.39,1.97,0,0,0,0,1.97,0
España:kit29,42.66,9.31,30.91,1.96,14.33,0.22,0,0,0,0,0.52,0.09,0
España:kit28,40.92,9.05,26.22,1.73,17.58,2.22,0,0.42,0.97,0,0.78,0,0.12
España:kit27,37.37,15.98,27.72,0,14.61,2.5,0,0,0,1.14,0,0.09,0.58
España:kit26,39.42,14.05,27.92,0,15.33,2.59,0,0,0,0,0.7,0,0
España:kit25,41.72,12.82,27.32,2.28,12.35,1.42,0.48,0,0,0,0,0.51,1.09
España:kit24,41.61,12.91,29.29,0.77,10.26,3.65,0.86,0,0.44,0,0.2,0,0
España:kit23,38.91,9.83,28.68,1.59,14.0,1.66,1.4,0.08,0,0.42,1.5,0.18,1.76
España:kit22,41.1,11.51,30.42,0,10.38,4.14,0,0.07,0.62,0.33,0,1.42,0
España:kit21,43.55,10.01,30.37,4.81,6.66,1.44,1.67,0.37,0.24,0,0.19,0,0.7
España:kit20,45.33,11.76,24.51,0,12.43,2.61,2.56,0.3,0,0,0.5,0,0
España:kit19,42.68,11.81,29.35,2.45,9.96,1.65,0.38,0,1.61,0,0.06,0,0
España:kit18,35.94,14.7,28.02,4.48,11.36,4.05,0,0,0.44,0,0.24,0.56,0.2
España:kit17,38.74,12.08,26.21,3.02,13.08,4.41,0,0,1.05,0,0,1.41,0
España:kit16,43.2,9.11,27.51,3.79,12.14,3.37,0,0,0.08,0,0.06,0.09,0.65
España:kit15,42.78,10.11,29.28,0.52,12.46,2.61,0.5,0,0.14,0,0.66,0.93,0
España:kit14,39.03,13.06,28.11,3.61,12.02,1.81,0.76,0.19,0,0,0,0.64,0.76
España:kit13,40.33,11.38,26.17,2.78,13.29,3.13,0,0.14,0.53,0.89,0.49,0.87,0
España:kit12,42.17,9.14,26.41,3.81,12.31,3.64,0.67,0.19,0,0,0.64,1.0,0
España:kit11,44.71,11.82,27.26,4.0,9.0,2.16,0,0,0.25,0,0.35,0.44,0
España:kit10,45.13,12.12,27.43,0,9.67,2.8,1.37,0,0,1.35,0.12,0,0
España:kit9,40.5,13.58,27.24,0,11.8,3.03,0,0.09,0,1.66,0.74,1.37,0
España:kit8,39.27,13.76,28.12,0.23,13.16,2.82,0.58,0,0.56,0,0,0,1.49
España:kit7,35.45,10.11,26.66,5.46,14.27,3.6,0.17,0,0,0.87,1.07,0.2,2.12
España:kit6,38.9,12.78,26.63,2.77,14.54,1.67,0.31,0,0.57,1.05,0.31,0.29,0.18
España:kit5,37.47,13.27,24.91,1.27,18.41,0.45,1.04,0.39,0,1.03,0.31,0.81,0.64
España:kit4,41.64,11.62,27.7,4.19,13.17,0,0,0.11,0,0.39,0.27,0.49,0.42
España:kit3,40.09,12.56,24.58,3.56,14.99,2.52,0,0.55,0,0.29,0.72,0.14,0
España:kit2,41.82,11.46,24.95,1.07,15.56,3.96,0.18,0.3,0,0,0,0,0.69
España:kit1,45.21,10.02,29.8,0,11.19,0,1.98,0,0,1.08,0,0.52,0.16
España:kit32,45.18,8.23,29.34,1.22,10.66,2.70,0.60,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.09,1.98,0.00
España:kit33,49.58,7.57,28.63,1.17,9.53,1.08,0.33,0.00,0.12,0.40,0.83,0.43,0.31
España:kit34,47.41,9.33,27.6,0.00,9.34,3.77,0.21,0.17,0.00,0.56,0.24,0.64,0.74
España:kit35,49.92,9.85,30.85,0.00,6.42,0.00,0.47,1.03,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.96,0.49
España:kit36,43.8,10.68,30.89,1.76,8.92,2.01,0.00,0.57,0.00,0.00,0.07,0.00,1.3
España:kit37,35.35,11.55,27.45,2.1,14.72,4.15,1.01,0.63,0.98,0.37,0.00,0.8,0.89
Code:Portugal:forum1,37.18,9.47,26.89,3.35,14.93,3.30,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.24,2.45,2.20
Portugal:forum2,39.42,9.58,28.51,1.05,12.04,4.47,0.00,0.58,0.59,0.00,0.04,2.60,1.13
Portugal:forum3,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0.00,0.00,0.94,0.00,0.76,2.50,0.43
Portugal:forum4,40.91,9.75,25.89,1.64,13.24,2.41,0.45,0.78,0.20,1.44,0.20,0.47,2.63
Portugal:forum5,38.48,11.15,25.02,4.28,13.96,2.18,0.37,0.00,0.00,0.00,1.08,1.62,1.87
Portugal:forum6,36.29,12.40,23.67,1.85,13.80,4.88,0.00,0.00,0.56,1.19,0.00,2.41,2.95
Portugal:forum7,33.59,13.26,25.63,0.47,15.35,3.31,0.00,0.64,0.51,1.46,0.00,2.96,2.82
Portugal:forum8,39.43,11.50,27.37,2.53,9.70,3.74,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.63,1.03,2.59,1.47
Portugal:forum9,41.15,11.86,24.54,1.66,11.73,3.51,0.00,0.00,0.33,0.13,0.18,3.92,1.01
Portugal:forum10,40.04,11.16,26.49,1.35,14.00,2.59,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.84,0.00,2.48,1.02
Portugal:forum11,37.18,12.05,25.49,2.01,14.07,2.47,1.04,0.00,0.21,1.02,0.00,2.76,1.70
Portugal:forum12,39.97,7.43,23.43,3.59,17.3,3.21,0.00,0.00,0.00,0.59,0.01,0.16,4.3
Portugal:forum13,37.94,14.02,25.17,2.18,12.52,4.18,0.74,0, 0.14,0,0.23,1.62,1.26
Portugal:kit80,35.7,15.45,24.57,0.58,15.64,1.8,0.58,0,0.79,0.38,1.04,2.51,0.96
Portugal:kit79,36.18,14.83,25.49,1.5,12.27,3.4,0,1.24,0,1.83,0,2.2,1.07
Portugal:kit78,36.82,10.47,29.46,1.62,10.94,4.67,1.4,1.07,0,0.54,0,2.71,0.29
Portugal:kit76,42.46,8.96,27.31,2.42,11.25,2.14,0,0.84,0.15,0.26,0.35,3.06,0.8
Portugal:kit75,36.51,11.41,27.71,1.67,13.04,4.11,1.9,0,0,0,0.84,2.81,0
Portugak:kit74,38.35,12.3,27.82,1.99,11.07,3.13,0.39,0.36,0.06,0.73,0.85,1.59,1.36
Portugal:kit73,40.11,9.56,25.23,2.64,13.48,3.02,2.4,0,0,0,0.94,1.73,0.89
Portugal:kit71,36.14,12.08,25.3,1.39,16.44,3.66,0,0,0,0.81,0,1.83,2.36
Portugal:kit70,38.46,12.39,25.42,2.46,13.03,3.37,0.94,0.95,0,0.44,0.31,1.28,0.96
Portugal:kit69,40.38,8.08,24.99,5.3,13.57,2.78,1.87,0,0.16,0,0,0.91,1.93
Portugal:kit68,35.1,11.38,28.86,1.98,13.85,4.0,1.05,0,0,0,0.3,2.02,1.38
Portugal:kit67,36.52,10.37,27.41,0,16.25,3.64,0,0.32,0,0.98,0.86,3.42,0.21
Portugal:kit64,37.64,8.41,29.94,0.52,14.15,3.96,0,1.12,0,0.97,0.06,1.69,1.52
Portugal:kit63,37.0,10.88,27.78,0.73,13.95,3.56,2.01,0.53,0.66,0,0.28,2.62,0
Portugal:kit62,34.94,15.89,25.31,3.98,12.44,3.31,0.28,0.56,0,0.14,0,0.14,0
Portugal:kit61,36.38,12.16,27.7,0.05,14.63,4.53,0,0.64,0,0,1.1,1.36,1.45
Portugal:kit59,38.66,12.9,26.05,1.72,10.63,4.65,0,1.03,0,0.25,0.84,0.99,2.29
Portugal:kit58,36.95,11.36,26.03,1.62,14.68,4.49,0,0.97,0,0.18,0.96,2.75,0
Portugal:kit57,36.35,13.69,23.91,1.03,15.98,5.2,0.1,0,0.52,0,0.14,2.18,0.86
Portugal:kit56,40.42,9.01,26.93,0,16.98,3.13,0,0.29,0,0.55,0.39,0.85,1.44
Portugal:kit55,39.45,12.34,23.7,0,15.91,5.56,0,0,0.06,0,0,1.69,1.28
Portugal:kit54,35.64,14.45,28.44,0,14.03,4.38,0.31,0,0,0,0.34,0.23,2.14
Portugal:kit53,39.09,10.71,25.97,0,17.86,2.64,0.44,0.27,0.16,0,0,0.16,0
Portugal:kit52,37.51,13.26,25.71,1.69,15.56,2.82,0,0,0,0.17,0.4,0.4,1.58
Portugal:kit51,36.71,14.49,25.1,0.34,16.89,2.8,0,0.47,0,0.86,0.2,1.58,0.58
Portugal:kit50,35.22,11.67,22.4,5.67,16.84,4.45,0.32,0,0,0.16,0.22,0.95,2.1
Portugal:kit49,38.7,12.07,27.54,1.37,12.56,4.92,0.14,0.19,0.37,0,0.68,0.23,1.23
Portugal:kit48,38.68,11.26,25.94,3.47,12.78,3.13,0.53,0.32,0,0.35,0.09,2.36,1.08
Portugal:kit47,38.46,13.1,24.66,0,14.03,4.75,0,0,0.3,0,1.3,3.39,0
Portugal:kit46,38.88,12.25,22.9,3.96,15.7,2.14,0.09,0.3,0.2,0,0.17,2.23,1.18
Portugal:kit45,34.57,14.9,25.14,4.56,12.27,2.79,3.28,0,0,0.45,0.27,0.32,1.43
Portugal:kit44,35.82,14.46,25.7,0,15.83,5.65,0,0,0,0,0,5.65,1.34
Portugal:kit42,40.81,12.53,24.47,1.9,10.65,4.64,0,0,0,0,1.13,3.59,3.59
Portugal:kit41,41.77,11.89,20.71,1.43,14.12,5.15,0.11,0.3,0,0.25,0.7,1.77,1.78
Portugal:kit40,35.79,13.32,27.93,3.57,10.29,4.35,0,0.23,0.34,0,0.7,2.87,0.6
Portugal:kit38,36.75,11.57,25.64,4.55,14.09,2.76,0,0,0.94,0,0.76,2.5,0.43
Portugal:kit37,38.79,11.55,23.05,1.43,15.78,4.15,0,0,0,0.48,0.26,1.06,3.44
Portugal:kit36,39.52,11.26,27.44,0,13.42,2.65,0,1.71,0,0.74,0.26,1.02,1.98
Portugal:Kit30(Aveiro),39.49,11.25,28.23,0,12.9,3.71,0.58,0,0,0,0.74,0.98,2.13
Portugal:Kit31(Aveiro),36.49,12.67,25.46,0,17.22,3.4,0.39,0.91,0,0,0.66,2.18,0.62
Portugal:Kit32(Aveiro),36.02,12.38,25.49,3.74,13.96,2.91,1.71,0,0.69,0,0,1.73,1.37
Portugal:Kit33(Aveiro),39.78,10.51,23.5,0.93,17.8,3.47,0,0,0,0.32,0,2.64,1.05
Portugal:kit28(Madeira),40.7,11.99,25.06,2.41,9.6,5.32,0,0.73,0.77,0.1,0.36,0.89,2.06
Portugal:kit27(Madeira),39.13,8.65,27.54,0.28,16.56,2.94,0.28,1.41,0,0,0,1.74,1.47
Portugal:kit26(Açores),38.94,7.39,27.92,0,14.53,3.37,0,0.31,0.52,1.11,0.98,2.08,2.84
Portugal:kit25,39.59,10.42,26.59,2.57,12.53,2.31,0.11,0.42,0,2.11,0.24,0.35,2.76
Portugal:kit23(Açores),36.46,9.39,26.95,3.16,15.36,3.47,0,0,0,0.79,0.52,1.74,2.16
Portugal:kit22,35.19,14.51,27.18,0.9,15.3,1.59,0,0.61,0.12,0.74,0,2.3,1.58
Portugal:kit20,39.63,8.41,26.03,5.48,10.9,4.24,0,0.6,0,0,0.6,2.59,0
Portugal:kit19,34.49,10.62,26.53,3.96,15.06,4.19,0,0.29,1.01,0.33,0.45,2.39,0.67
Portugal:kit17,37.13,12.76,24.07,2.06,14.03,4.35,0,0,0.83,0.99,1.09,2.66,0
Portugal:kit16,37.23,12.78,27.61,2.22,14.32,2.07,0,0.12,0.42,0,0.12,2.65,0.46
Portugal:kit15,38.48,11.55,25.46,5.75,11.85,1.73,2.1,0,0,0.1,0.92,0,2.05
Portugal:kit14,40.0,11.83,29.0,0.82,8.32,5.35,0,0,0.53,0.73,0.7,1.36,1.37
Portugal:kit13,41.93,11.18,23.03,2.74,16.57,2.38,0,0.13,0,0.07,0.13,1.32,0.51
Portugal:kit12,37.26,12.7,23.85,0.98,15.7,3.64,0,1.43,0,0.26,0.67,1.22,2.28
Portugal:kit11,37.86,14.42,21.88,1.29,14.1,4.59,0.18,0,0.39,1.68,0.14,1.76,1.69
Portugal:kit10,40.02,12.46,22.77,0,14.33,5.03,0,1.18,0.79,0,0,0.88,2.52
Portugal:kit9,36.56,12.64,24.11,3.39,17.23,1.11,0,0,0,0.65,0.82,1.19,2.3
Portugal:kit6,39.65,10.91,24.74,0.58,17.43,2.52,0,1.31,0,0,0,0.32,2.51
Portugal:kit4,37.18,10.59,27.72,3.29,12.4,5.2,0,0,0,0.08,0.53,0.53,0
Portugal:kit3,40.02,14.16,25.75,0,14.97,2.08,0,0,0,0.14,0.61,2.26,0
Portugal:Kit2,40.92,10.14,24.89,0,14.94,3.73,0,0,0.96,0.26,0.29,3.33,0.54
Portugal:Kit1,39.74,14.95,20.9,6.45,11.35,2.24,0,0,0,1.6,0.92,1.47,0.37
Nosotros, solo con samples individuales españoles:
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Solo con samples portugueses.
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COn samples españoles y portugueses mezclados:
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Creo que ya cuento con los 50 números de kits necesarios para solicitar un proyecto en Gedmatch, así que con un poco de suerte, si me lo aceptan, podremos contar con samples de sitios diversos.:thumb001:
I removed one sample that might be me, and without it i get:
Distance to: Damião_de_Góis
2.52590578 Portugal:kit48
2.81366309 España:foro33
2.83323137 Portugal:forum3
2.83323137 Portugal:kit38
3.22453097 Portugal:kit70
3.29807520 Portugal:kit46
3.48001437 Portugal:forum11
3.52526595 Portugal:Kit32(Aveiro)
3.54575803 Portugal:forum1
3.57842144 España:kit3
3.60188839 Portugal:kit15
3.73739214 Portugal:kit73
3.75402451 España:kit13
3.87242818 España:kit6
3.96083325 España:foro39
3.97025188 España:kit17
4.04754246 España:foro15
4.07372066 España:foro38
4.09376355 Portugal:kit23(Açores)
4.10108522 España:foro14
4.10667749 Portugal:forum10
4.12145605 España:kit30
4.12226879 Portugal:kit25
4.21071253 Portugal:kit52
4.23417052 España:foro5
Target: Damião_de_Góis
Distance: 0.4727% / 0.47266287
71.6 Portugal
28.4 España
We could make a selection of 50 samples from each country, but with the current Spanish samples available, I don't think our proportions from each country will improve much. I would hope to have more Spanish samples from sites that are under-represented (especially with kits, which are mostly related to Catalonia, or the North except Galicia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
If I post the samples, it is in case anyone wants to play with them in that sense, so you (or any other) are free to suggest different references that those which I post.
All that I have posted for now, are nothing more than provisional references, to test how they work.
For example, after checking those Portuguese samples, I ´ve selected these (5 forum members+10 kits):Quote:
Originally Posted by Damião de Góis
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And I´ve made this reference as Portuguese average(3 decimals):
Edit:This is just an example about everyone can do...Code:Portugal:average(n=15),37.821,12.051,25.288,2.569,13.751,3.544,0.295,0.279,0.401,0.277,0.433,1.955,1.334
And I update the raw average of all the samples from both countrie (3 decimals):
Code:España:average(n=79),40.896,10.789,27.822,2.035,12.634,2.642,0.426,0.298,0.211,0.323,0.420,0.852,0.648
Portugal:average(n=76),38.071,11.755,25.736,1.956,14.011,3.535,0.339,0.327,0.198,0.401,0.416,1.841,1.372
We need more references for Spain than a simple general average for all the country, these averages discriminate well our main origin in distances, and aproximately well in results, but distances are quite high.
Code:España:average(n=79),40.896,10.789,27.822,2.035,12.634,2.642,0.426,0.298,0.211,0.323,0.420,0.852,0.648
Portugal:average(n=76),38.071,11.755,25.736,1.956,14.011,3.535,0.339,0.327,0.198,0.401,0.416,1.841,1.372
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Amplio las referencias provinciales españolas con Gerona y Lérida, gracias a Defcon2:
Code:España_Asturias:(n=3),41.82,10.32,27.78,1.66,11.54,3.32,0.00,0.67,0.26,0.26,0.90,1.04,0.43
España_Álava:(n=4),48.52,9.15,29.17,0.44,8.44,1.69,0.34,0.39,0.04,0.29,0.35,0.61,0.59
España_Andalucía:Occidental(n=4),38.89,9.72,27.55,2.66,13.74,2.94,0.14,0.58,0.43,0.28,0.36,1.70,1.03
España_Andalucía:Oriental(n=6),38.57,9.77,29.37,1.82,12.22,4.53,0.47,0.16,0.04,0.28,0.43,1.01,1.34
España_Cantabria:(n=2),42.14,11.70,29.22,0.25,11.48,2.13,0.26,0.00,0.36,0.50,0.39,1.46,0.14
España_Castellón:(n=3),43.07,10.44,26.28,4.14,11.21,1.93,0.09,0.69,0.20,0.41,0.35,0.36,0.85
España_Castilla_y_León:(n=4),39.68,11.09,26.59,1.92,13.90,2.69,0.29,0.14,0.12,0.55,0.53,1.96,0.54
España_Extremadura:(n=3),36.72,9.90,28.32,1.52,15.22,3.18,1.01,0.65,0.33,0.12,0.53,1.02,1.48
España_Lleida:(n=4),40.04,11.68,27.60,1.97,13.87,3.07,0.00,0.40,0.45,0.08,0.45,0.41,0.00
España_Girona:(n=3),41.97,10.89,27.31,3.21,11.96,2.21,0.50,0.00,1.08,0.27,0.21,0.03,0.35
Edit:Y al que me pasó los samples, sweuro de Anthrogenica.:thumb001:
Buenas, no conocia de nada este foro, pero me he hecho un analisis recientemente en myheritage, y tengo muchas curiosidades que investigar y debatir, y alguien me ha dado un enlace a este sitio. ¿Esto es un hilo generico donde comentar datos y curiosidades?
Edito: Me he leido las ultimas 10 paginas pero estais todos hablando de numerajos y de temas que solo vosotros sabeis que os traeis entre manos y no me entero de nada jajaj
PD: ¿En serio estais hablando entre gente de españa y portugal en el idioma de mordor? :picard1:
¿Tienes ya los resultados del test?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
Puedes hacer muchas cosas con los datos en crudo de MH, entre otras conseguir unas coordenadas para usar con esos numerajos, hacer algún mapa de similitud o conocer cual es tu haplotipo paterno.
Y bienvenido, por cierto.
Hola, si si, me llegaron los resultados el viernes por la noche y me he pasado el fin de semana entero con un frikismo extremo con todo este tema, sin parar de investigar. He estado cargando los datos a otras paginas gratuitas de las que me hablaron y tal, y me he encontrado con bastantes sorpresas. Hay demasiadas cosas que no entiendo bien, o de las que tengo curiosidad. Necesitaba con urgencia un sitio donde saciar todas esas ansias :DQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
¿Cual es supuestamente el indicador, filtro o como se llame mas fiable que estais usando, de entre los sitios gratuitos?
Ninguno es fiable 100%, hay que recoger diferentes resultados para hacerse una idea de la tendencia general de cada uno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
Pero bueno, aquí siempre se empieza por postear los resultados de la compañía comercial, y luego postear varios calculadores de Gedmatch, sobre todo Eurogenes K13, Eurogenes K15, y K36.
Los porcentajes de componentes de cada calculador y el oracle de cada uno por ejemplo.
Las numerajos esos que ves ahí arriba son entre otros, coordenadas que se hacen con los componentes ordenados del K13, y s epeuden usar en modelos customizados eligiendo las referencias que quieras usar.
Si posteas los componentes del k36 de Gedmatch, te hago el mapa, o te paso el link para hacerlo tú, como quieras.
¿De dónde eres, por cierto?
Alicante. Ahora si eso cuelgo algunos datosQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Por cierto, no se si tendreis algun mapa que explique las zonas de esas paginas. Es decir, cuando ponen "atlantico norte, mediterraneo este, mar del norte, mar rojo, etc" a mi me vuelven loco, porque asi es imposible saber a que territorios exactamente se estan refiriendo, que zonas estan incluidas ahi y cuales no
Hay otro foro más serio que es Anthrogenica, en el que estamos varios de los que estamos aquí. Este tiene mucho componente político identitario, y es un poco como el patio de juegos del otro foro.
Aquí se permiten bastantes troleos, y tonterías. En el otro a la mínima vas fuera, este tiene más "vida", pero en los dos obtendrás información parecida.CUalquier cosa nueva suele aparecer un poco antes en el otro foro, y al poco alguno lo postea aquí también.
Paciencia, porque siendo español, tarde o temprano leerás cosas que no te gusten, muchas veces buscando provocarte.
Por lo demás, puede ser divertido, y de vez en cuando, alguno aprende algo. ;)
Hola, yo también soy de Alicante, de la zona de Campello, pero por alguna extraña razón éstos del foro dicen que soy de Pucela.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
Benvingut por cierto :D
Esos son "componentes", que tienden a puntuar en ciertas zonas, digamos que son orientativos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
Creo que en Eupedia puedes encontrar mapas, de donde aproximadamente proviene cada uno, y pueden variar de un calculador a otro:
https://www.eupedia.com/europe/autos..._dodecad.shtml
CV es un histórico del foro. Es famoso, y muchos nos odian por su culpa.
Pero cumple su función, aunque a algunos no nos gusten sus métodos ni sus formas.
Por ejemplo, a mí me llama calvo, y sufro mucho por ello.
Nos viene bien uno de Alciante, para que haga un careo con el Oliver ese, del que algunos sospechan que es Septentrion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo
Edit:Que asco con la dislexia digital... Alicante quería decir.
Pues, simplemente te llamo vasco, es igualmente maloQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Bueno, le echare un ojo tambien al otro sitio, pero de momento me quedare aqui, prefiero el ambiente distentido. Esos foros en los que hay que entrar con el monoculo puesto me dan un poco de pereza...
Ahora cuelgo los datos
PD: Al paisano, soy de alicante, pero hablo en cristiano jjajaj
Bueno, algo vasco soy, no es algo que considere como negativo.Quote:
Originally Posted by IberianAlex
No te confundas, calvito, ya nos odiaban mucho antes de que yo llegara al foro...Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Ni el Tato se cree que Oliverio tenga algo que ver con Alicante o España.Quote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Ostia, cómo podría olvidarlo, mi culpa, eres andorrano de pura cepa, sííííQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Bueno, yo me piro a sobar, que tengo que dormir mis 5 horas de rigor al menos.
Dejo aquí lo del mapa, que siempre tiene gracia, solo hay que poner el porcentaje de cada componente del k36 en su casilla correspondiente, (separador decimal con punto, no con coma como en España, tal y como viene en Gedmatch) y ya está.
https://gen3553.pagesperso-orange.fr/ADN/similitude.htm
Y los dos típicos predictors de Ydna:
https://ytree.morleydna.com/
https://cladefinder.yseq.net/
Luego MyTrueAncestry, que es una chorrada, pero da algo de juego:
https://mytrueancestry.com/en
YourDnaPortal, que es similar a gedmatch, pero tiene cosas diferentes y un interfaz más intuitivo:
https://www.yourdnaportal.com/
Genoplot, que va con un sistema de créditos, que se suelen reponer cada cierto tiempo sin tener que pagar:
https://genoplot.com/
Y el típico DnaLand:
https://dna.land/
Y si aprendes a hacer las coordenadas de cada calculador de Gedmatch (están también en Genoplot y YourDnaPortal), los calculadores de gedmatch en Vahaduo:
http://vahaduo.genetics.ovh/
Es todo gratuito, pero Vahaduo necesita de cuatro instrucciones, y luego hay que saber interpretar un poco cada resultado.
Mañana leeré lo que postees.
Hasta otra.
Bueno pues aqui esta el mapa y datos que me mandaron los de la compañia
Attachment 106860
(Vaya basura de foro, que no redimensiona las imagenes, llevo un cuarto de hora intentando colgarla de mil maneras, he tenido que recortarla al maximo)
Bueno, el caso es que me sorprendio ese porcentaje tan altisimo de Cerdeña, y mas aun lo del baltico y europa del este. Asi que bueno, probe con otros sitios. En dnaland, me salia un 80% europa suroeste, el sardo quedaba reducido a 2'2, europa centro sur (supuestamente norte de italia segun el mapa) 5'3, el baltico lo sube a 5'2 y me añade un 6'5 de "balcanes", estando pintado en el mapa toda la zona yugoslava y grecia. Y despues me suma un 1'1 de "norteafrica"
Y ahora despues pongo lo de k13 y k36
Pues sigue diciéndolo, hoy dijo "us" incluyéndose como español, futuro calvo, alguno se lo creerá.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo
¿Has conseguido adelgazar los mofletes producidos por empapuzarte a polvorones, o se te ha agravado esa cara pan?
Me voy!!!
Es bastante habitual lo de Cerdeña, son como un fósil genético de los primeros agricultores europeos, y como los Ibéricos tenemos entre un 50% y un 60% de ese compoennte antiguo, a muchos le suele salir bastante.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
No es que tengas familiares de Cerdeña (generalmente), solo indica el Mediterráneo occidental. precisamente el componente West Mediterranean del k13 apunta a Cerdeña como referencia, solemos tener más de un 20% en el k13 todos, unos más, otros menos.
Diría que es un resultado normal, del sureste Ibérico, más luego la gracia del báltico y todo eso, que ya iremos viendo.
Si te sale R1a en el Ydna, me darás una alegría, que soy el único español que lo tiene por ahora en este foro.
Hay un sudamericano, o había, pero era otro clado diferente al mío.;)
¿Y tú, has grabado ya el anuncio de la lotería de Navidad, o aún es demasiado pronto? xDQuote:
Originally Posted by gixajo
Esa compañía MyHeritage me parece una cagada de perro que flipas, por cierto... Y sí, ya vi como se incluía como español el Oliverio, jaja xD
Bueno prosigo:
Datos k13:
North_Atlantic 39.3 Pct
Baltic 11.41 Pct
West_Med 25.4 Pct
West_Asian 2.26 Pct
East_Med 16.28Pct
Red_Sea 2.74 Pct
South_Asian 1.4 Pct
East_Asian -
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 1.18 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
- Datos k36:
Amerindian -
Arabian 2.22Pct
Armenian 0.53Pct
Basque 10.21Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 6.7Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan -
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 0.52Pct
East_Med 4.77Pct
Eastern_Euro 2.35Pct
Fennoscandian 0.07Pct
French 4.1Pct
Iberian 29.55Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.06Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern -
North_African -
North_Atlantic 6.7Pct
North_Caucasian -
North_Sea 5.03Pct
Northeast_African 1.21Pct
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian 0.25Pct
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 5.69Pct
Estas serían tus coordenadas del K13 para usar en Vahaduo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer
Puedes hacer las coordenadas para cada calculador de Gedmatch que haya en Vahaduo de la misma forma que hice estas:tu nombre al principio, y despues separado por coma, los porcentajes en el orden de la tabla que posetaste, separados por comas también.
¿Todos tus abuelos son de Alicante?:
Y los mapitas del k36:Code:Suarsenaguer,39.3,11.41,25.4,2.26,16.28,2.74,1.4,0,0,0,0,1.18,0
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En verdad ninguna se salva, todas estas compañías tienen sus fallos a la hora de calcularte la estimación étnica, si bien My Heritage probablemente sea de las peores, pero bueno al menos te proporcionan los raw data genéticos tuyos y ya tú con eso puedes hacerlo prácticamente todo, tanto averiguar una estimación genética mucho más ajustada a la realidad como averiguar tu haplogrupo paterno.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cristiano viejo