Genética de españoles e hispanoamericanos

Me han dado hoy los resultados de mi abuelo. Estoy flipando con el analisis de myheritage, hay cosas que son una puta locura :picard1:

Estoy esperando el resultado de dna.land y de otros sitios y ya pondre un resumen de datos. Necesito ayuda con gedmatch, que pagina mas mala joder, que mal explicado todo. He subido el archivo pero pinche donde pinche despues me da error en todas partes y es imposible hacer analisis. De todos modos he probado en yourdnaportal, que supuestamente hace los mismos analisis que gedmatch (k13, k36 y los tipicos) de forma muchisimo mas facil e intuitiva, pinchando en enlaces que te hacen todo de forma automatica

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Originally Posted by DontKillFred

Hi everyone, would you take a look at my K47 results ?
Attachment 108761Attachment 108761

What do you think about them ?
Thanks, a lot.
(I'm from Portugal btw)

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Macho... ¿en serio eres de portugal y nos estas escribiendo a españoles en el idioma de los piratas? Esto si que es de :picard1:

Bueno, pues como os dije, ya tengo los datos de mi abuelo. Para recapitular, os hago brevemente un resumen de mis datos y los comparo con los suyos, pues hay cosas que me han dejado loco. Ante todo, corroborar que el analisis como tal es fiel y real, puesto que hice 2 cuentas separadas, con nombres falsos, sin enlazarlos de ningun tipo como familiares ni personas cercanas ni nada de nada, y el sistema me enlaza a la cuenta de mi abuelo, clasificandolo como "abuelo, tio o medio hermano". Asi que bueno, al menos queda garantizado que no se inventan las cosas.

Por curiosidad geografica, yo soy de Alicante, la rama de mi padre es de la zona, la rama de mi madre procede del oeste de Albacete. El abuelo del que adjunto datos es padre de mi madre

MIS DATOS (redondeando un poco decimales):

1- Myheritage:
- Español 78% (remarcando 2 grupos en el este del pais)
- Cerdeña 15%
- Baltico 3'5%
- Europa Oriental 3'5% (marca un basto circulo que incluye checoslovaquia, yugoslavia, hungria, polonia, rumania y ucrania)
- Luego ya fuera de porcentaje, me salen 3 pequeños grupos exta: Berna (suiza), Vosgos (FR) y West Midlands (ENG)

2- DNALAND
- Europa suroeste: 80%
- Cerdeña: 2%
- Balcanes: 7%
- Europa centro-sur (supongo que italia): 5%
- Baltico: 6%
- Norteafrica: 1%

3- EUROGENES K13
- Atlantico norte: 40%
- Mediterraneo oeste: 25%
- Mediterraneo este: 16'5%
- Baltico: 11'5%
- Mar Rojo: 2'8%
- Asia oeste: 2%
- Asia sur: 1'5%
- Egipto: 1%


MI ABUELO (padre de mi madre)

1- Myheritage:
- Español: 55% (remarcando grupo vascuence y grupo "sur de españa")
- Cerdeña: 18'5%
- Grecia: 9'5%
- Irlanda-Escocia: 5%
- Finlandia: 2%
Y aqui la traca final que es la que me deja loco:
- Norteafricano: 8'2%
- NIGERIANO: 1'4% :rolleyes:
- Grupos adicionales, sin sumar porcentaje: Una zona que abarca toda alemania, y un puntito pequeño encima de Paraguay

2- DNALAND
- Europa suroeste: 76%
- Europa noroeste: 13%
- Europa central-sur: 6'5%
- Norteafrica: 4'6%

3- EUROGENES K13
- Atlantico norte: 41'5%
- Mediterraneo oeste: 25'43%
- Mediterraneo este: 16%
- Baltico: 10'8%
- Mar Rojo: 3%
- Asia sur: 0'9%
- Oceanico: 0'7%
- Subsahariano: 0'6%
- Amerindio: 0'4%
- Egipto: 0'3%


Bueno, pues si ya en su momento me habia dejado una enorme curiosidad ese origen parcial mio baltico, balcanico y eslavo, lo de mi abuelo me ha dejado totalmente loco. Que le den solo un 55% de tipicamente español, ya me intriga, pero mas aun que tenga porcentajes tan altos de Grecia, Irlanda o Finlandia. Su parte griega podria ir relacionada con esa parte que otros me dan a mi de balcanico, no lo se. Pero lo que si me deja totalmente loco es que le den porcentajes tan elevados de moro y sobre todo DE NEGRO. Ha sido un descojone. Aclarar que no tiene en absoluto rasgos morunos o marronidos, como hay gente que si los tiene (tez morena, pelos rizados, y esas cosas)

En dnaland, le dan un porcentaje bastante alto del eje irlanda-uk-holanda-noruega, lo que vendria a confirmar que algo hay, y no es una desbarrada de myheritage. Lo que no entiendo es pq esa misma pagina si a mi abuelo le saca un 13% de esa zona, a mi no me saca nada de nada, siquiera trazas. Lo del nigeriano, es curioso pues en el k13 salen pequeñas trazas, con que es posible que algo haya. Supongo, algun muy lejano cruce con algun mudejar almoravide, de aquellos que eran moros con trazas de mestizaje negro, lo cual en fin, tecnicamente es posible. Aunque el % que da de ello myheritage es una locura infumable

Me faltaria hacerle analisis a mi padre a ver que me sale. Intuyo que las trazas baltico-eslavas vendrian por su rama. La familia de mi padre siempre le he visto una mirada y unos ojos muy eslavos. Yo en cierto modo tambien (mucha gente me sacaba parecido con luka jovic)

En fin un puto misterio todo esto. Ojala los mas rodados volvais por aqui y me podais comentar curiosidades respecto a las diferencias y tal. He visto que uno de los mas activos ha sido baneado, espero que solo sea temporal y vuelva...

Mis nuevos resultados del bronce de la península ibérica. Con detalles alguna para no alargar demasiado.

Con España, vamos, no ha nacido quien...

Publicamos porque nos mola y es entretenido, no tenemos nada que demostrar. Eso sí, en este sucio mundillo de la genética todavía hay cosas que se van a tener que aclarar.


73. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 13.68 - I4561
98. Bronze Age El Hundido Monasterio de Rodilla Spain
2417 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.3 - EHU002
131. Castilla y Leon Burgos Tablada de Rudron Virgazal Spain
2600 BC - Genetic Distance: 14.99 - I6470
136. Bronze Age Fuente la Mora Spain
1500 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.16 - I3491
149. Portugal Middle Bronze Age
1580 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.48 - TV3831
160. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.73 - VAD003
163. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 15.79 - I7689
174. Mallorca Early Bronze Age
2350 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.0 - I4329
180. Bronze Age Can Roqueta-Can Revella Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.22 - I1310
182. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.23 - VAD001
196. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.47 - I4559
217. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 16.95 - I4560
257. Bronze Age Humanejos Parla Iberia
1785 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.64 - I6618
259. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.66 - VAD005
264. Bronze Age Humanejos Madrid Iberia
2250 BC - Genetic Distance: 17.78 - I6588
Similar Samples
Sabine Italic Tribe Grotta Regina Margherita Italy (1504 BC) (4.643)
Heneti Italic Tribe Grottina dei Covoloni del Broion Italy (1502 BC) (5.062)
Larriey Plague Cemetery Mont Prorel France (1629 AD) (5.236)
Bronze Age Castillejo del Bonete Iberia (2124 BC) (5.444)
Bronze Age Koenigsbrunn Germany (1957 BC) (5.684)
283. Bronze Age Tarragona Galls Carboners Spain
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.32 - I4562
296. Bronze Age Tumulo Morterem Valencia Spain
1400 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.59 - I8570
1. French_Basque (10.21)
2. Spanish_Basque (12.80)
299. Post Roman El Castillon Granada Spain
500 AD - Genetic Distance: 18.62 - I3578
300. Bronze Age Castillejo del Bonete Iberia
2124 BC - Genetic Distance: 18.64 - I3484
350. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1560 BC - Genetic Distance: 19.78 - VAD004
1. French_Basque (14.39)
2. Spanish_Basque (16.70)
375. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.33 - I7691
377. Bronze Age El Hundido Monasterio de Rodilla Spain
2171 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.34 - EHU001
1. Welsh (10.91)
2. Southwest_English (12.14)
378. Iberian El Argar Bronze Age
1730 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.43 - I8144
386. Bronze Age Tumulo Morterem Valencia Spain
1400 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.55 - I8571
1. Spanish_Basque (9.678)
2. French_Basque (9.839)
389. Bronze Age Valdescusa Northern Spain
1700 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.66 - VAD002
1. French_Basque (6.887)
2. Spanish_Basque (8.606)
402. Bronze Age Galls Carboners Catalonia Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 20.89 - I4558
421. Portugal Middle Bronze Age
1580 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.22 - TV32032
430. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1625 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.39 - I3488
459. Bronze Age Ondarre Basque Iberia
1608 BC - Genetic Distance: 21.78 - I1982
1. French_Basque (12.53)
2. Spanish_Basque (12.71)
482. Bronze Age Monte da Cabida Evora Portugal
1950 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.15 - I7692
509. Bronze Age Argar Culture Priego de Cordoba Andalusia
1775 BC - Genetic Distance: 22.68 - pir001
531. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1653 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.12 - I3487
582. Bronze Age Cabezo Redondo Villena Valencia Spain
1600 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.79 - I3486
601. Bronze Age Cerdanyola Barcelona
2550 BC - Genetic Distance: 23.98 - I0261

Y la última de regalo
700. Roman Era Canterbury England
200 AD - Genetic Distance: 25.56 - 1257_Co
1. West_Scottish (6.782)
2. Southeast_English (7.229)

Todos los asiduos de este hilo han desaparecido. Si en algun momento me leeis, a ver si volveis, estaba todo muy interesante, y se ha parado en seco

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Originally Posted by Suarsenaguer

Todos los asiduos de este hilo han desaparecido. Si en algun momento me leeis, a ver si volveis, estaba todo muy interesante, y se ha parado en seco

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Dicen que no quieren volver.

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Originally Posted by Gallop

Dicen que no quieren volver.

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Pues una lastima. ¿Hay gente en algun otro foro similar?

Eurasia - Modern Origins

Third Oracle Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 8 fragments, with each fragment representing 12.5% of your genome. This setting is very useful in modern ethnicity estimates, since the size of the generated fragments match perfectly the percentage of DNA inherited from a great-grandfather.

Aquitaine : 62.5%
Asturias : 12.5%
Cantabria : 12.5%
North_Ossetia : 12.5%


I've been seeing that I get this result in quite a few calculators.

This result that I get from North Ossetia understanding the oracle would be through a great-grandfather or great-grandmother who would have a composition from what I see from Northern Spain Aquitaine, Asturias, Cantabria.

En este resultado de mi padre se podría interpretar un modelo de romano con las aportaciones latinas, gallo roman, un poco de etrusco e incluso una aportación de NA.


Homogenesis and Civilisations, 3000 BC-1000 AD

Second Oracle Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 20 fragments, with each fragment representing 5% of your genome. By not focusing on the most distant ancestry, it offers an excellent and balanced estimate of ethnicity with a lower margin of error.

Celtic_Orkney : 30%
Hallstatt_Celt : 20%
Terramare : 15%
Tuareg : 15%
Celtic_Switzerland : 5%
Iberian_El_Agrar : 5%
Italic-Tribes : 5%
Roman : 5%

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Pues una lastima. ¿Hay gente en algun otro foro similar?

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Sí, se llama Anthrogenica, esto cada vez más está perdiendo actividad, normal si los miembros son baneados.

Este thread todavía está en uso? xd

Bump

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Okay; parece que lo medio revivieron jajaja así que postearé algunos resultados.

El modelo que voy a usar es de Rocinante xddd

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.7393% / 0.02739282
35.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
5.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.4 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Yoruba


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.1714% / 0.02171449
34.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 MAR_Taforalt
5.6 WHG
4.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.8 Yoruba
0.8 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.5650% / 0.02564961
41.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.8 WHG
2.0 Yoruba
1.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Siberian_Mesolithic

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Okay; parece que lo medio revivieron jajaja así que postearé algunos resultados.

El modelo que voy a usar es de Rocinante xddd

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.7393% / 0.02739282
35.8 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
31.8 TUR_Barcin_N
13.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
6.2 WHG
5.6 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
5.4 MAR_Taforalt
2.0 Yoruba


Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.1714% / 0.02171449
34.6 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
14.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
5.8 MAR_Taforalt
5.6 WHG
4.2 IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N
2.8 Yoruba
0.8 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer


Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.5650% / 0.02564961
41.4 BRA_LapaDoSanto_9600BP
32.0 TUR_Barcin_N
15.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
4.8 WHG
2.0 Yoruba
1.8 IRN_Shahr_I_Sokhta_BA2_I8728
1.8 MAR_Taforalt
0.4 Eastern_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Jomon_Hunter-Gatherer
0.2 Siberian_Mesolithic

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Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

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Originally Posted by Hasien

Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

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When will you be tested?

Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

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When will you be tested?

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Ya lo hize, pero me gustaria test my mom tambien antes de continuar con otro test (23andme etc)


Remove.

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

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does your mother looks castiza o igual que tu? porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu???

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Originally Posted by Hasien

Did your parents got tested?? queeeee? nicee

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Mi hermana también; aunque no le he comprado el Illustrative DNA ni las coordenadas G25 xddd

Próximamente si Dios quiere, voy a comprarles las pruebas a mis 3 abuelos para saber más de nuestros orígenes, especular e hipotetizar mejor de dónde o cómo han salido todos estos componentes que tenemos.

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Mi hermana también; aunque no le he comprado el Illustrative DNA ni las coordenadas G25 xddd

Próximamente si Dios quiere, voy a comprarles las pruebas a mis 3 abuelos para saber más de nuestros orígenes, especular e hipotetizar mejor de dónde o cómo han salido todos estos componentes que tenemos.

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que bueno me agrada, pero cuantame como luce tu mama luce castiza o porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu? es harniza?

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Me impresiona que mi mamá y yo tengamos un montón de MENA, y junto con el ANF el cual está muy elevado para ser mestizos indica ancestría judía sefardí sin problemas; además el WHG también está algo alto para ser mestizo (En el modelo estándar de Davidski saco 7.2% y mi madre 6.6%) por lo que podría indicar ascendencia Vasca por parte de nosotros.

El 0.8% de japonés es real? O un asolapamiento de algún componente?

Mi padre es súper interesante porque su MENA es muy mínimo; no tiene judío por lo que esa herencia es por parte materna; además el 1.8% de Iraní mesolítico podría indicar ancestros gitanos tal vez? Es raro porque casi no tenemos registros de ellos llegando aquí a México, pero parece que mi padre fue de los pocos que lo tuvo jajaja (Igual yo, pero parece que no lo heredé) además es increíble que tengamos el mismo porcentaje de SSA cuando en todos los exámenes es él el que saca menos que yo.

Su siberiano mesolítico es indígena? Porque creo que están muy relacionados...

El EHG que mi padre posee parece que es algo que no tenemos mi mamá y yo.

O qué es lo que opinan chicos? Qué teorías tienen? Se me escapó algo también? jaja

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Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

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Originally Posted by Hasien

does your mother looks castiza o igual que tu? porque tiene el mismo amerindio que tu???

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Según los expertos de TA mi mamá está en el rango 70-75%

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Según los expertos de TA mi mamá está en el rango 70-75%

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joder..... no me sorprende que mi madre sea menos Europea de lo que pense tambien o igual que yo o que mi abuela que pas descanze no era realmente 80% euro sino 75% ya que las aparencias tambien engañan .


Pero bueno el tiempo despues dira.

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Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

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En LivingDNA yo no saco nada de MENA, parece que el judío sefardí lo contaron como Ibérico/Europeo, porque otra razón no le encuentro ya que a mí ese test ha sido de los mejores resultados que he obtenido.

Pues en 23andme yo hipotizo que tendría como 7%-7.5% MENA o tal vez un poquito más, pero ten en cuenta que todo ese componente sería puramente judío, mi madre como un 8%-8.5% por ahí tal vez; es demasiado, casi como si tuviéramos un tatarabuelo Sefardí :eek:....en tu caso la gran mayoría es Guanche y tal vez un poquito de judío :thumb001:

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Asi es compadre, eres un caso similar al de mi mama, mi abuelo y yo, que ellos llegan a 9-10% MENA en 23andMe, y yo hasta 14% en mylivingDNA.

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algo que no entiendo porque tu hermano tiene mas amerindio y ssa que tu? son hermanos de ambos papas? i know within full siblings the difference at max are 5%

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Originally Posted by Hasien

Ya lo hize, pero me gustaria test my mom tambien antes de continuar con otro test (23andme etc)


G]

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Es cierto, no me acordaba.

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Es cierto, no me acordaba.

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Mira perdono tus comentarios previos hacia ami madre, pero lucia castiza segun a tu criterio?

Nos habían metido a mi padre y a mí un 5% aprox. de nativo americano en ADNtro, también había visto algo en MH. Digo, vamos a ver es relativamente una época reciente y algo tendría que saber por tradición oral e.t.c. así que lo he querido comprobar con YourdnaPortal.

Third Test Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 10 fragments, with each fragment representing 10% of your genome. It shows your ancestry admixture on an even broader level, omitting noise completely.

Population
Value

Eurasian 100%
Proxy for European and West Asian ancestry.


Padre:

Eurasian : 100%
Proxy for European and West Asian ancestry.


Si bien mi padre en:

Main Test Run

This mathematical setting divides your genome into 200 fragments, with each fragment representing 0.5% of your genome. This enables us to capture and identify your most distant origins.


Population
Value

Eurasian 94%
Sub-Saharan African 4.5%
Siberian 1%
Cuba ancient 0.5%

Cuba ancient alguien lo ha escuchado alguna vez, qué puede ser una reverberación de Siberian.

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Mira perdono tus comentarios previos hacia ami madre, pero lucia castiza segun a tu criterio?

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No sé que aspecto tiene alguien castizo, por lo que recuerdo, tenía cierto toque amerindio, pero tampoco una cosa extrema.

Tampoco sé muy bien que me tienes que perdonar sobre tu madre, porque no he dicho nada con intención de ofenderla.

Decir que resulta atractiva, o al menos que la recuerde así de una foto suya que ví hace tiempo, no creo que sea ofenderla. Pero bueno, si la forma en que lo dije lo percibiste como una falta de respeto y te molestó, por supuesto que te pido disculpas.

A tí y a ella.

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algo que no entiendo porque tu hermano tiene mas amerindio y ssa que tu? son hermanos de ambos papas? i know within full siblings the difference at max are 5%

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Tenemos la misma mama, pero diferentes papas.

Mi hermano tiene menos SSA que yo.

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No sé que aspecto tiene alguien castizo, por lo que recuerdo, tenía cierto toque amerindio, pero tampoco una cosa extrema.

Tampoco sé muy bien que me tienes que perdonar sobre tu madre, porque no he dicho nada con intención de ofenderla.

Decir que resulta atractiva, o al menos que la recuerde así de una foto suya que ví hace tiempo, no creo que sea ofenderla. Pero bueno, si la forma en que lo dije lo percibiste como una falta de respeto y te molestó, por supuesto que te pido disculpas.

A tí y a ella.

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Eres grosero con la madre de otros y luego soy yo la mala persona :mad:

Oigan chicos; alguien tiene algún modelo que pueda ubicar la ancestría gitana? Para que la postee porfa jaja

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Oigan chicos; alguien tiene algún modelo que pueda ubicar la ancestría gitana? Para que la postee porfa jaja

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Con este modelo deberían salir a la luz todos los posibles aportes que no sean "ibéricos".

Las referencias Ibéricas son individuos solo con WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, o muy poco más añadido.

El supuesto aporte gitano vendría marcado por el porcentaje del componente "India".

He quitado la referencia Irán, para que no le haga competencia a India.:)

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Con este modelo deberían salir a la luz todos los posibles aportes que no sean "ibéricos".

Las referencias Ibéricas son individuos solo con WHG+EEF+Yamnaya, o muy poco más añadido.

El supuesto aporte gitano vendría marcado por el porcentaje del componente "India".

He quitado la referencia Irán, para que no le haga competencia a India.:)

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Iberian:MIQ133,0.117238,0.139128,0.042615,0.016796,0.031698,0.000558,0.000705,0.007615,0.015339,0.026242,0.005196,0.016186,-0.016501,-0.015276,0.006922,0.00053,-0.000652,0.015076,0.003897,-0.001501,0.005116,0.002844,-0.004437,0.007471,-0.007784
Iberian:VID016,0.120652,0.148267,0.053928,0.008075,0.048317,0.00502,0.00094,0.008307,0.019634,0.035901,-0.003573,0.01169,-0.013825,-0.00578,0.004614,-0.006364,-0.010822,0.001647,0.003268,0.002626,0.006613,-0.005812,0.000246,-0.004097,0.00467
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Iberian:BAS22,0.132035,0.146236,0.059585,0.008075,0.060934,0.008367,0.003995,-0.006231,0.026997,0.047564,-0.008282,0.008393,-0.018285,-0.019542,0.011401,0.00769,0.001434,0.014569,-0.004022,0.006128,0.012977,-0.003586,-0.007765,-0.004217,0.004071
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Interesantísimo bro! Muchas gracias! Esto es lo que saco yo y mi familia con la distancia más baja:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.5717% / 0.02571743
42.4 Iberian
37.4 Amerindian
12.0 Levantine
3.8 SSA
3.2 NorthernAfrica
1.2 India

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 1.8730% / 0.01872975
43.4 Amerindian
43.2 Iberian
6.4 Balkan
3.2 SSA
2.4 Arab
1.4 India

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 1.9600% / 0.01959978
41.8 Iberian
37.0 Amerindian
10.4 Levantine
6.4 NorthernAfrica
4.2 SSA
0.2 India

Parece que sí tengo algo jaja soy algo como 1/83 y mi padre 1/71 xD eso significa gitano, pero no Dravídico?

El de mi madre debe ser ruido seguro.

Por cierto bro, una duda, porqué ese modelo nos sube unos puntos más lo negro y el amerindio? Xddd

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Interesantísimo bro! Muchas gracias! Esto es lo que saco yo y mi familia con la distancia más baja:



Por cierto bro, una duda, porqué ese modelo nos sube unos puntos más lo negro y el amerindio? Xddd

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Con poco más e un 1% no creo que haya que tomárselo muy en serio.

Sube cualquier % de todo lo que sea no-Ibérico porque son samples individuales con nada o muy poco aporte extra-europeo. Funcionan como las referencias vascas puras, sin ser todas ellas vascas.

Algún componente como el Levantine, lo podemos leer como East-Mediterranean, no necesariamente tiene que ser no-europeo.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Con poco más e un 1% no creo que haya que tomárselo muy en serio.

Sube cualquier % de todo lo que sea no-Ibérico porque son samples individuales con nada o muy poco aporte extra-europeo. Funcionan como las referencias vascas puras, sin ser todas ellas vascas.

Algún componente como el Levantine, lo podemos leer como East-Mediterranean, no necesariamente tiene que ser no-europeo.

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Ahh va va; entonces lo que esté debajo de 1.5% no necesariamente debe de ser real? O estoy equivocado? Jaja

Ya veo bro; entonces el resto de los componentes que usamos tienen mezcla

Ohh yo pensé que el Levantino era como parte de mi lado judío xDDD

Por cierto; mencionaste que habías quitado el componente de Irán, crees que puedas pasarme completamente todo el modelo para ver cómo nos sale? Jaja por curiosidad xD

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Ahh va va; entonces lo que esté debajo de 1.5% no necesariamente debe de ser real? O estoy equivocado? Jaja

Ya veo bro; entonces el resto de los componentes que usamos tienen mezcla

Ohh yo pensé que el Levantino era como parte de mi lado judío xDDD

Por cierto; mencionaste que habías quitado el componente de Irán, creo que puedas pasarme completamente todo el modelo para ver qué nos sale? Jaja por curiosidad xD

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A veces ni un 20% es real.

Se me olvidó decirte que cuando posteé este modelo recomendaba 0.25X ó 0.5X

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Iran,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

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A mis padres y a mí nos salía esto:

Spoiler!

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.0750% / 0.01074962
84.4 Iberian
8.6 Slav
5.4 NorthernAfrica
1.2 Arab
0.4 India

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2306% / 0.01230632 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Iberian
4.0 NorthernAfrica
0.8 Slav
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Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2444% / 0.01244371
77.4 Iberian
13.4 Balkan
8.4 NorthernAfrica
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3454% / 0.01345395 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Iberian
9.0 NorthernAfrica
7.8 Balkan

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Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5392% / 0.01539217
84.8 Iberian
11.2 BritishIsles
4.0 NorthernAfrica


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5997% / 0.01599740 | ADC: 0.25x
95.4 Iberian
2.6 BritishIsles
2.0 NorthernAfrica

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Originally Posted by gixajo

A veces ni un 20% es real.

Se me olvidó decirte que cuando posteé este modelo recomendaba 0.25X ó 0.5X

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Iran,0.08819270,0.10113475,-0.06562890,-0.02964950,-0.04627995,-0.00295545,0.00468410,-0.00464850,-0.02821040,-0.01373640,0.00216160,-0.00098600,0.00418345,-0.00166035,0.00498295,0.01070660,-0.00466300,0.00281875,0.00398130,-0.00991535,-0.00093175,-0.00418420,-0.00039000,-0.00518885,0.00490625

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A mis padres y a mí nos salía esto:

Spoiler!

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.0750% / 0.01074962
84.4 Iberian
8.6 Slav
5.4 NorthernAfrica
1.2 Arab
0.4 India

Target: gixajo_scaled
Distance: 1.2306% / 0.01230632 | ADC: 0.25x
95.2 Iberian
4.0 NorthernAfrica
0.8 Slav
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Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.2444% / 0.01244371
77.4 Iberian
13.4 Balkan
8.4 NorthernAfrica
0.8 SSA

Target: gixajo_dad_scaled
Distance: 1.3454% / 0.01345395 | ADC: 0.25x
83.2 Iberian
9.0 NorthernAfrica
7.8 Balkan

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Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5392% / 0.01539217
84.8 Iberian
11.2 BritishIsles
4.0 NorthernAfrica


Target: gixajo_mom_scaled
Distance: 1.5997% / 0.01599740 | ADC: 0.25x
95.4 Iberian
2.6 BritishIsles
2.0 NorthernAfrica

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20%??? Wow entonces ya no sé que es real y que no xD

Éste es con el aporte de Irán a la distancia más baja:

Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.8003% / 0.02800301 | ADC: 0.25x RC
37.4 Amerindian
37.4 Iberian
15.0 NorthernAfrica
10.2 Iran

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.3267% / 0.02326677 | ADC: 0.25x RC
36.8 Amerindian
36.4 Iberian
18.8 NorthernAfrica
8.0 Iran

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.2071% / 0.02207088 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.2 Iberian
43.6 Amerindian
8.8 NorthernAfrica
2.4 Iran
1.0 India

Mi padre sigue sacando India xdd

Y sin el Irán a la distancia más baja:


Target: HelloGuys_scaled
Distance: 2.9312% / 0.02931238 | ADC: 0.25x RC
42.6 Iberian
37.2 Amerindian
17.0 NorthernAfrica
3.2 India

Target: Mamá_scaled
Distance: 2.4731% / 0.02473057 | ADC: 0.25x RC
41.0 Iberian
36.8 Amerindian
20.2 NorthernAfrica
2.0 India

Target: Papá_scaled
Distance: 2.2240% / 0.02223957 | ADC: 0.25x RC
45.4 Iberian
43.6 Amerindian
9.4 NorthernAfrica
1.6 India

Siento que quitar el Irán no está tan correcto ya que de repente mi madre ahora saca Indio y a un 2% (Cosa que nunca pasaba) y yo saco un montón de ese aporte, mucho más que mi propio padre -El doble de hecho- xDDD ahh y hablando de él, pues sigue sacando ese indio de manera "estable"y constante

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Originally Posted by HelloGuys

Y sin el Irán a la distancia más baja:



Siento que quitar el Irán no está tan correcto ya que de repente mi madre ahora saca Indio y a un 2% (Cosa que nunca pasaba) y yo saco un montón de ese aporte xDDD y mi padre sigue sacando ese aporte de manera "estable"

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A partir de 0.25X puedes usar la opción "recalculate", puede ordenar los porcentajes de forma diferente, variando o no las distancias.

No esperes que estas herramientas te modelen siempre con precisión, ni que te den resultados iguales a los que esperas, son lo que son y valen para lo que valen.

Como has visto hay componentes que por ser relativamente cercanos o estar relacionados se molestan entre sí y varían mucho los resultados si están juntos o si quitas alguno de ellos. Y si uno tiene aportes diferentes, y encima no muy recientes, la cosa se complica.

Si meto una referencia griega o italiana, el Levantine te bajará, si en vez de esas referencias uso otras más habituales, te subirá el Ibérico.

Sin más, lo de siempre, hay que probar muchos modelos y quedarse con la tendencia general del conjunto, y tratasr de ver nuestros resultados como intervalos de porcentajes, más que como porcentajes exactos.