Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Its not that we deny it - South Slavs are not actually Slavs themselves.

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Haha, keep coping :laugh:

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Its not that we deny it - South Slavs are not actually Slavs themselves.

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The people who invaded Greece in the middle ages would not have been like modern Bulgarians. But even today's Serbs for example are at least 50% Northeast European on average. Not to mention there are Bosniaks who are basically Ukrainian with one East Med grandparent or something like that.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Yeah and only in Northern Greece realy ,there were no slavophone regions in the rest of Greece

Slavs left some admixture in Mainland Greece but they didn't have a massive impact everywhere neither did they invade or dominate whole of Greece for a long time if they would there would be no Greece today but it would be just another Balkan Slavic country like Croatia,Serbia or Bulgaria but its not

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They left significant impact, around 30% if we go by ancient samples and YDNA. But, let's wait for more early Slavic and ancient Greek samples to be more certain. :)

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Originally Posted by Leto

The people who invaded Greece in the middle ages would not have been like modern Bulgarians. But even today's Serbs for example are at least 50% Northeast European on average. Not to mention there are Bosniaks who are basically Ukrainian with one East Med grandparent or something like that.

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Correct - you dont see Avar, Kipchak type phenotypes in North Greece.

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Originally Posted by Leto

The people who invaded Greece in the middle ages would not have been like modern Bulgarians. But even today's Serbs for example are at least 50% Northeast European on average. Not to mention there are Bosniaks who are basically Ukrainian with one East Med grandparent or something like that.

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Yeah and thus very different from Mainland Greeks even the North Eastern most ones

Sorry but there was no Slavic impact in Greece as there was in Balkan Slavic countries whatever Slavs at that time exactly were it should be obvious and not even a matter of debate

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Correct - you dont see Avar, Kipchak type phenotypes in North Greece.

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What do they have to do with Slavs?

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

They left significant impact, around 30% if we go by ancient samples and YDNA. But, let's wait for more early Slavic and ancient Greek samples to be more certain. :)

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We barely get 7% EE and our samples that are shared with other Balkan people are generally at least 1000 years older.

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Originally Posted by Leto

What do they have to do with Slavs?

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Because thats one of their main phenotypes. Like it or not. Thats a recent input in the Balkans from Slavo-Avar invasions.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

They left significant impact, around 30% if we go by ancient samples and YDNA. But, let's wait for more early Slavic and ancient Greek samples to be more certain. :)

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Around 30% is exagerated not even in the parts of North Greece with higher Slavic

In Pelponnese its at best 14% or lower

You should go to Greece and visit once to constate that in crowds Greeks almost never look like Slavs
not even like Croatians,Serbs or Bulgarians who still feel more similar to us than other Slavic groups

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

We barely get 7% EE and our samples that are shared with other Balkan people are generally at least 1000 years older.

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Please. I can't discuss with person who thinks Balkan on 23andme equals Paleo-Balkan xD
You have G25 with ancient samples, sorry.