Origin of I2-din. Slavic, Paleo-Balkan or?

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

That branch does not fall under I-Y3120, which what this thread is about if you ignore 99% of the comments.

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I am aware of that, just a side remark. Someone mentioned the Levant or Middle East.

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Originally Posted by Leto

There was a half Jordanian (maternally Russian) on TA and his Y DNA was I-M223 (I2).

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I looked it up and the branches of that subclade have carriers throughout western Europe. He's likely a descendant of one of the crusaders.

Of the 24 million I2-din carriers, the majority (13 million) are from Russia, Ukraine, Belarus and Poland.
Not from the Balkans.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I am aware of that, just a side remark. Someone mentioned the Levant or Middle East.

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It's Germanic type of I2 usually, but to my suprise in SE Euro ancient paper lot of old Balkan I2 fell under that branch (it's extremelly rare in Balkans today and peaks in Germany)

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

No, clearly Slavic. Because there are much more north than south slavs carrying it dummie.

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I don't want to be the one to judge but for a "Croatian" person you sound extremely Germans with all the unsophisticated insults which are thrown around like commands. Certainly you don't sound neither nonSlavic nor Slavic Balkan, you sound like a Kraut.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

I looked it up and the branches of that subclade have carriers throughout western Europe. He's likely a descendant of one of the crusaders.

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I2 was common among Italian Normans from whom came many great Crusaders. The progeny of Hauteville being among them.

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Originally Posted by Dušan

11 million in Russia and Ukraine.

[img]https://i.imgur.com/3rGwa1s.png [/im]

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Thraco-Cimmerians who were cousins of Dacians

They lived in Ukraine and Russia.... I assume they are I2

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-Cimmerian.png

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

No, clearly Slavic. Because there are much more north than south slavs carrying it dummie.

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I2 is Cromagnon, neither Slavic nor Germanic or Balkan. It's related with Cromagnon migrations to Europe.

So Bosniensis doesnt believe in the "De Administrando Imperio" and the fact that he speaks a slavic language with family and aquaintances? Does he think this all is a big Byzantine conspiracy? We South Slavs wouldnt have such high amounts of Northeastern-european admixture without slavic invasions considering our geographical position.

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Originally Posted by Jugo

I don't want to be the one to judge but for a "Croatian" person you sound extremely Germans with all the unsophisticated insults which are thrown around like commands. Certainly you don't sound neither nonSlavic nor Slavic Balkan, you sound like a Kraut.

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I am more Slavic than anything else in DNA, culture and identity. Deal with it sock.