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Well, the software that Day Tripper used is interpolating things between the points.Quote:
Originally Posted by cmariexo
Imagine everything between points as "fantasy" of the software. :lightbul:
The Subsaharan blopp is cold stopped by the low value at the French spot.
But towards Africa, there is nothing to stop it while the Spanish spot has the highest Subsaharan from all spots in the map. :wink
I averaged my ancestry (about 3/4UK and 1/4DE) in the parentheses.
North + Central European 0.18581 (.395)
North + East Eurasian 0.010554 (.001)
South + West European 0.197168 (.158)
North Atlantic 0.497785 (.395)
Sub-Saharan 0.00001 (.00001)
Baltic 0.108674 (.0655)
Wonder why my North + Central is so low compared to the avg.
^ A sign of strong Celtic (West British or Irish) ancestry IMO.
The average is alsmot 0% I believeQuote:
Originally Posted by cmariexo
Yeah, and I seem to be the opposite. I have strong North/Central (Germanic?) and South/West (who knows what that is??), but relatively little North Atlantic (Irish). Actually surprisingly low, much lower than the ancestral populations where I am sourced from. :confused: So I'm pretty much a North-South mix with not much inbetween ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Polako
I have the second-highest SSA admixture in this group, beaten only by a Spaniard. :p ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Iberia
Doesn't the fact, that a primarily South Western sample being used distort things too much?
As for a clear demarcation one needs to use South Eastern European samples too I'd say, otherwise these specifically SEE components might be just split up between the others in a rather unrepresentative manner?
I'm getting lots of e-mails about this issue (also from disgruntled Southern Europeans who aren't being run regulalry).
I might try and combine the two Euro tests into one tonight, and see what happens.
Day Tripper at ABF was kind enough to do a similarity chart for my results, my top match is Canada, second the United States. My top European match is Ireland, given that I'm mostly English by ancestry I'm surprised by the closeness to Ireland, either my Irish ancestors had a stronger genetic legacy than they typically should or my English ancestors are mostly pre-Germanic invasion. The German score seems a bit too high as well since I'm not even a full quarter German. The UK is close but I would have thought it to have been first between UK, Ireland and Germany since I'm about half English derived. I'm wondering if the Canadians I'm similar to are mostly English and given that I do have recent English-Canadian relatives/ancestors (great grandmother immigrant) and such that my score is biased towards that showing that I'm genetically more similar to those English-Canadians than to UK English.
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Interesting chart, Barrel. You are still more similar to the Brits than most Americans that Day Tripper has made a chart for. The others' values do not go below 10.
The two of us seem to be more similar to certain European groups than the others, for whatever reason. My similarity to the British is around 2 on my chart. :lol:
Badge of honor eh? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Me thinks recent immigrant ancestors are to thank.Quote:
The two of us seem to be more similar to certain European groups than the others, for whatever reason. My similarity to the British is around 2 on my chart. :lol:
North + Central European 35%
North East Eurasian = 0%
South + West European (Basque/Sardinian) = 27%
North Atlantic 35%
Sub-Saharan = 0%
Baltic = 3%
I think this is more realistic, although I' still quite surprised by the Baltic score. Karl said that it's probably linked to the Scandinavians having Baltic admixture. It seems very feasible, really.
Nice, I'm 34% Scandinavian then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
I think I need something explained to me. That is, why when current geneticists say three-quarters of the population of the British Isles directly descends from the Basques and has little admixture from the migrations/invasions of different stock why do I, and other Britons score 20-50% North Central European?
I for instance score 35% North + Central European.
:confused:
How so?Quote:
Originally Posted by Forget Me Not
Because of Anglo-Saxon invaders? :lightbul:Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
That thing you said about Karl suggesting that Baltic admixture might have come from the Scandinavians. If so then I am 34% Scandinavian (Baltic). :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
Because they are/were of the old belief that Y-DNA R1b = paleolithic Basque-like Europeans. I haven't heard someone claim what you stated in years. That used to be the accepted theory around 2006. A lot of studies have came out since then and the popular opinion has changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
If looking at autosomal results, it is easy to see that the notion of the Brits being 75% paleolithic and similar to the Basques is absurd.
It seems I'm about five years too late then! :embarrassedQuote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
Whoops, last night's analysis was a flop. I ran the whole thing on the wrong markers by mistake. I'll re-run everything tonight. Apologies.
Genetic substructures across Europe, part 1 - preliminary run Sub-Saharan = 0% North Sea = 15.2% North + East Eurasian = 0.007% North Atlantic = 0% North-Central European = 11.5% Eastern European = 28% Southern European = 44.3%
Sub-Saharan African = 0%
North Sea 34%
North + East Eurasian = 0%
North Atlantic = 38%
North-Central European = 21%
Eastern European = 2%
Southern European = 5%
Does anyone know what the difference is between North Sea and North Atlantic on Eurogenes?
I usually name the clusters that peak in the Irish as "North Atlantic", and those that peak in Scandinavians as "North Sea".Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperivm
Lets see.
Me in this run, compared to the average countrymen of mine.
Subsaharan: 0% (German average: 0%)
North Sea: 43.37% (German average: 25.43%)
North/East Euroasian: 0% (average: 0%)
North Atlantic: 0.8% (German average: 26.36%)
North-Central European: 20.11% (German average: 27.35%)
Eastern European: 20.74% (German Average: 14.56%)
Southern European: 14.97% (German Average: 11.26%)
Genetic substructures across Europe, part 1 - preliminary run
- NO8 -
(roughly)
64,39% Yellow / North Sea
21,73% AquaGreen / North Atlantic
13,48% DarkBlue / Eastern European
0,37% Green / North + East Eurasian
0,00% Blue / North-Central European
0,00% Pink / Southern European
0,00% Red / sub-Saharan African
41.88% North-Central European
35.04% North Sea
22.81% North Atlantic
00.26% Southern European
00.00% Sub-Saharan African
00.00% North + East Eurasian
00.00% Eastern European
Scored the highest out of the Uk/Ireland folk for north central Europe. Ma North Atlantic is diminution. :D
44.56% North Sea
28.2% North Atlantic
14.01% Eastern European
12.6% North-Central European
0.6% North + East Eurasian
0.00% Sub-Saharan African
0.00% Southern European
Here are my new scores, US5:
41.0% North Sea
6.5% North Atlantic
0% Eastern European
49.2% North-Central European
0% North + East Eurasian
0.% Sub-Saharan African
3.3% Southern European
My North Atlantic is lower than expected, but my North-Central Euro score is very high. Polako, what group does the North-Central component peak in?
My "North-Central European" scores are 0.00%, just like my "Baltic" scores in many of the intra-North European runs.
This one makes more sense to me.
49.86% North Sea
20.99% Southern European
11.34% North-Central European
08.68% North Atlantic
05.95% Eastern European
02.14% Sub-Saharan African
01.04% North + East Eurasian
I find it interesting that my North Sea component is higher than all the Dutch and German samples, and even several Scandinavians! And the lower SE looks way more realistic than before.
Recent results for mwa:
Sub-Saharan African: 0%
North Sea: 21.6032%
North+East Eurasian: 0%
North Atlantic: 45.974%
North-Central European: 19.3393%
Eastern European: 3.9876%
Southern European: 9.5704%S
0.00001 Sub-Saharan African
0.218539 North Sea
0.00001 North + East Eurasian
0.49188 North Atlantic
0.131511 North-Central European
0.033219 Eastern European
0.124831 Southern European
Our scores are quite similar. You're half Faroes half Acadian correct?Quote:
Originally Posted by AcadianDriftwood
Reckon that blend would come out similar to someone who has predominate British Isle's ancestry given the proposed invasion histories.
My Baltic score was 0.5% on the last run, but my North-Central European score is 49.2%. :confused: I'm about to check the spreadsheet and see which population the North-Central component peaks in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olavsson
Highest North-Central:Quote:
Originally Posted by AlabamaMan
CA6 99.99
NL2 99.99
US159 99.99
US85 99.99
GSM536619 58.05
US24 57.85
US184 55.34
US171 51.62
US5 49.19
DKUS1 46.43
SE8 45.49
US129 44.93
US201 44.42
DE5 43.21
I'll run some pivots, US excluding
Thanks, man. :) Looks like I am in 9th place right now. I was looking over the spreadsheet, and it appears that the North-Central component has a wide range, and reaches high frequencies in individuals from various European countries. It doesn't seem to be concentrated in any single ethnicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Loki
I assigned nationalities to those individuals who were not mixed (i.e. IEUK or whatever), and added averages in the spreadsheet.
Yeah. Seems Doug MacDonald thinks I'm English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barreldriver
Thanks, Loki. You just saved me some time.
The North-Central European component is most common in the Belgians at 35%, followed by the Dutch at 34%, and then the Estonians at 29%. Strange to see the Estonians coming in third behind the first two groups.