Yes i saw that result, but i dont believe it was half qashqai. I think they are at least east asian like azerbaijanis. Maybe a bit more.
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It could be Qashqai although im not sure too. They have different tribes incorporated in their confederation. To be honest I think they are less turkic than Azerbaijanis, since it's documented that they are of various origins, which can't be said for some of the other turkic/azeri tribes in Iran (Afshar, Bayat, Shamlu etc..). With Azerbaijanis I would guess that rural tribes who kept semi-nomadic lifestyle longer are more turkic than Azerbaijanis from cities.
I said maybe a little bit more than the average, maybe i dont know. I saw here results of an azerbaijani with 20% euarsian, in another forum i saw someones grandparent had 30%. There are many others in azerbaijan and iranian azerbaijan who definitely score more than15% east asian, also i think you will find in eastern turkey places where people score more than 10%, at places where you wouldnt expect. I always wonder why azerbaijanis score low eastasian, maybe many intermarriage and assimilation of some caucasians in northern republic.
Any proofs about genetic makeup? Qashqais have the same origins as azerbaijanis but they just kept their original livestyle.because of that i thought they were more isolated. Btw do we have results of safewid era or of ak/karakoyunlu? I ask because it could be interesting, we already have ottoman results and its nice to see how they were.
Oh its sad
Well they look mixed but still retail their Turkic phenotype.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/B9N67D/ira...ads-B9N67D.jpg
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net...ae&oe=5EBAEA78
^tbh that is literally how i imagine a lot of people to look from Kurdistan to Azerbaijan to Iran to Tajikistan to Afghanistan.
I don’t know what it is but Turks from Turkey have a very distinct look to the rest of us. I honestly think they are more influenced by Europeans.
The thing is, western turks don't really differ that much from eastern and central turks
West Anatolian Turk (from Adapazarı)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 25.54
2 East_Med 22.28
3 West_Med 12.09
4 Siberian 10.16
5 Baltic 9.88
6 North_Atlantic 7.45
7 East_Asian 4.88
8 Red_Sea 3.06
9 South_Asian 1.70
10 Amerindian 1.65
11 Oceanian 1.32
Central Anatolian Turk (from Aksaray)
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 28.07
2 East_Med 25.43
3 West_Med 12.22
4 Baltic 7.53
5 North_Atlantic 6.97
6 South_Asian 6.15
7 Siberian 4.67
8 East_Asian 4.25
9 Red_Sea 3.08
East Anatolian Turk (from Malatya)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 31.89
2 East_Med 29.20
3 West_Med 10.16
4 Baltic 6.74
5 North_Atlantic 6.17
6 Siberian 4.73
7 South_Asian 3.71
8 East_Asian 3.25
9 Red_Sea 3.04
We don’t know anything about the people who are tested. Is the guy from aksaray really fully turk or do all westernturks show more eastasian admixture? I saw eastern results which score more eastasuan than most westernturks. Btw aksaray has few kurdish villages, but he scores typical results for that region. Although the area between kirikkale, kisehir and yozgat were full of turkmen tribes, this area have less eastasian admixture. I should tested.
Yep he looks straight up Kurdish.
Erzurum/Erzincan region is a very mixed area of Kurds, Turks and historically Armenians (but you know what happened). Turks from areas like Malatya, Maras, Sivas, Antep, Erzurum and Erzincan all look very different from Western Turks, but all these provinces have a substantial Kurdish population.
Average for Kırşehir natives:
Gedrosian: 17.00
Siberian: 4.64
Northwest_African: 0.79
Southeast_Asian: 0.72
Atlantic_Med: 11.58
North_European: 9.92
South_Asian 1.69
East_African 0.19
Southwest_Asian: 10.92
East_Asian: 4.60
Caucasian: 37.73
SSA: 0.21
Distance to: Turk_Kirsehir
1.97630969 Turk_South
2.88046871 Turk_Anatolia
3.21855558 Turk_Central_East
3.39829369 Turk_Central_West
3.55550278 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
3.99547244 Turk_Southeast
5.47226644 Azerbaijani
5.48320162 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.58421884 Turk_Southwest
5.68852353 Turk_West_BlackSea
7.17470557 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.84717146 Yoruk
8.22653633 Turk_Northwest
9.63782133 Turk_East
10.47036771 Kurd_Kurmanji
10.62897925 Turkmen_Iraq
10.92654566 Zaza
12.28671233 Kurd_Sorani
12.35316559 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.16395457 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.22355089 Armenian_East
14.24797880 Iran_Khorasan
14.50574024 Uzbekistan_Jews
14.72191564 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.95454112 Iranian_Fars
Target: Turk_Kirsehir
Distance: 0.4821% / 0.48205148 | ADC: 0.25x
43.4 Turk_Anatolia
31.6 Turk_South
18.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.6 Azerbaijani
1.2 Turkmens
0.6 Brahui
No, in such cases only ethnic Turks are considered.
Here are two Turks from Erzincan.
https://i.ibb.co/2824tXc/89795456-25...570624-n-1.jpg
https://i.ibb.co/k34Gvh2/52364606-24...79558400-o.jpg
^Erdal Erzincan might be a Zaza Alevi, though I know that Erzurum-Askale has Cepni Alevis too.
Also Western Turks look more european because the people they mixed were more european+millions of Turks and non-turks who came from Balkans(They are atleast 15million), local villages are also different from coastal cities which were settled by muhacir.
Thanks my friend. But it would be very interesting what would come out at my results, we are a very atypical family. My maternal family are descendants of karacakurt turkmens of begtili tribe, my paternal grandfather says always hes turkmen. But we do look very atypical, im only since few years brown haired, i always been blond and blueeyed. My sister looked like a german as she was a little girl, nobody assumes me as a turk.
They score around 5-6% which is not much different from Turks in Central Anatolia who score 5-9%, it depends they might be mixed with Armenians.
Turks from places like Bayburt,Erzurum are close to Armenians genetically but they still have asiatic admixture even though its very low.
Buusra (Avar born in Turkey)
Population
Gedrosia 25.18 Pct
Siberian 3.22 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 8.01 Pct
North_European 24.34 Pct
South_Asian 0.40 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.98 Pct
East_Asian 0.72 Pct
Caucasus 35.15 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Buusra
4.42967267 Avar
4.96918504 Dargin
5.99605704 Lak
11.04449184 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.74694854 Ingush
13.54783378 Lezgins
14.54629850 Yagnobi
14.68501958 Kumyks
16.31808812 Circassian
17.73093624 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Target: Buusra
Distance: 3.6822% / 3.68217581 | ADC: 1x
96.0 Avar
4.0 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
Target: Buusra
Distance: 2.0339% / 2.03385544 | ADC: 0.5x
80.8 Avar
10.4 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
6.8 Dargin
1.6 France_Corsica
0.4 Turk_Northwest
Target: Buusra
Distance: 0.9527% / 0.95265991 | ADC: 0.25x
52.8 Avar
33.4 Dargin
11.2 Turk_Northwest
1.6 French_Basque
0.6 Sardinian
0.4 Crimean_Tatar_Coast
Some kind of Iranian
Population
Gedrosia 28.19 Pct
Siberian 0.27 Pct
Northwest_African 1.13 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 7.68 Pct
North_European 7.23 Pct
South_Asian 3.93 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 11.99 Pct
East_Asian 1.54 Pct
Caucasus 36.88 Pct
Sub_Saharan 1.16 Pct
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.83
2 Iranians (Behar) 5.01
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.48
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.58
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 12.85
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 13.67
7 Turks (Behar) 15.52
8 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.61
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 18.41
10 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.9
11 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.94
12 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19
13 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.09
14 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 19.95
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 20.25
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 20.86
17 Lebanese (Behar) 21.13
18 Lezgins (Behar) 21.73
19 Syrians (Behar) 22.7
20 Armenians (Behar) 23.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 90.1% Iranians (Behar) + 9.9% Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) @ 2.46
2 89.8% Iranians (Behar) + 10.2% Bulgarian (Dodecad) @ 2.49
3 90.1% Iranians (Behar) + 9.9% Romanians (Behar) @ 2.53
4 92.6% Iranians (Behar) + 7.4% Hungarians (Behar) @ 2.9
5 88.7% Iranians (Behar) + 11.3% Greek (Dodecad) @ 2.92
6 89.8% Iranians (Behar) + 10.2% O_Italian (Dodecad) @ 2.99
7 93.9% Iranians (Behar) + 6.1% Ukranians (Yunusbayev) @ 3.1
8 94.1% Iranians (Behar) + 5.9% Polish (Dodecad) @ 3.11
9 93.3% Iranians (Behar) + 6.7% German (Dodecad) @ 3.12
10 93.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 6.6% Portuguese (Dodecad) @ 3.16
Elazig
Distance to: Turk_Elazig
3.54620924 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.74436508 Azerbaijani
4.83337356 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.85511071 Turk_Southeast
4.98795549 Turk_East
5.22839363 Zaza
5.74359643 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.87957481 Turk_Central_East
6.79543229 Turkmen_Iraq
7.58341612 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.14385658 Kurd_Sorani
8.30454695 Turk_South
8.31216578 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.63457584 Armenian_East
8.77218901 Turk_Central_West
8.89860663 Turk_Anatolia
9.11792740 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.18796349 Kurds
10.54678624 Lur_Iran
10.59672591 Kurd
10.67046859 Armenian_West
10.86777806 Iranian
11.29541500 Turk_West_BlackSea
12.13234520 Turk_Southwest
12.25996330 Assyrian
Target: Turk_Elazig
Distance: 0.8040% / 0.80398854 | ADC: 0.25x
47.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
26.4 Zaza
19.8 Turk_East
4.4 Nusayri_Turkey
2.2 Sardinian
Malatya
Distance to: Turk_Malatya
2.99066882 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.29013678 Turk_Southeast
3.75069327 Azerbaijani
3.98322733 Turk_Central_East
4.75909655 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.98556597 Turk_East
6.11224999 Turk_South
6.52438503 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.58600030 Turk_Central_West
6.67310273 Turk_Anatolia
6.85101452 Zaza
6.90625803 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.67271790 Turkmen_Iraq
8.87578166 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.00509300 Turk_West_BlackSea
9.12303129 Kurd_Sorani
9.86442598 Turk_Southwest
10.29772790 Armenian_East
10.70424682 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.65422241 Kurds
11.93519585 Kurd
12.01267664 Lur_Iran
12.02773877 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.13675822 Iranian
12.17449383 Yoruk
Target: Turk_Malatya
Distance: 0.6903% / 0.69029794 | ADC: 0.25x
47.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.4 Turk_Central_East
12.8 Turk_Southeast
10.2 Zaza
9.2 Turk_East
3.8 Italy_Abruzzo
1.4 Greek_Crete
1.0 Italy_Sicily
0.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
Mortimer
Population
Gedrosia 10.02 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 1.12 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.12 Pct
Atlantic_Med 20.64 Pct
North_European 24.66 Pct
South_Asian 11.10 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.91 Pct
East_Asian 1.52 Pct
Caucasus 22.83 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.09 Pct
Target: Mortimer
Distance: 3.9741% / 3.97405084 | ADC: 0.5x
57.4 Romanians
19.8 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
18.0 O_Italian
2.8 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
2.0 Tajiks
Target: Mortimer
Distance: 1.6362% / 1.63618758 | ADC: 0.25x
56.6 Romanians
17.8 O_Italian
10.4 Cochin_Jews
9.2 Bnei_Menashe_Jews
4.4 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
0.8 Algerian
0.8 Khasi
5 results from Republic Azerbaijan (thanks to Leto)
#1Code:
Gedrosian: 20.08
Siberian: 2.99
Northwest_African: 1.58
Southeast_Asian: 0.23
Atlantic_Med: 8.00
North_European: 10.14
South_Asian 2.69
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.93
East_Asian: 2.78
Caucasian: 39.12
SSA: 0.46
Distance to: AzerRep1
2.39895811 Azerbaijani
2.86038459 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.05389915 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.56261986 Turk_Southeast
6.28697861 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.52893559 Turk_Central_East
6.77500554 Zaza
6.90516473 Turk_South
7.53801035 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.61253571 Turkmen_Iraq
7.96794202 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.03783553 Kurd_Sorani
8.16109061 Turk_Anatolia
8.26644422 Turk_East
8.43124546 Turk_Central_West
9.70752286 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.50805405 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.56533956 Iranian
10.70123357 Kurd
10.76393980 Kurds
10.77371802 Turk_Southwest
10.84443175 Lur_Iran
10.97195516 Iranian_Fars
11.48931678 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.68863551 Iran_Khorasan
Target: AzerRep1
Distance: 1.0988% / 1.09879133 | ADC: 0.25x
80.0 Azerbaijani
8.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
4.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.4 Balkars
2.2 Samaritians
1.2 Kumyks
0.8 Mozabite
0.4 Yemenese
0.2 Selkup
#2Code:
Gedrosia 21.85 Pct
Siberian 2.31 Pct
Northwest_African 0.34 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.44 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.64 Pct
North_European 7.94 Pct
South_Asian 2.53 Pct
East_African 0.47 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.54 Pct
East_Asian 1.93 Pct
Caucasus 39.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: AzerRep2
2.75183575 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.23898132 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.41216940 Azerbaijani
3.85019480 Turkmen_Iraq
4.27827068 Zaza
4.27891341 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.58398298 Kurd_Sorani
4.95257509 Turk_Southeast
6.00022500 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.78746429 Lur_Iran
8.09504169 Kurd
8.16662109 Kurds
8.38171224 Turk_Central_East
8.42838656 Iranian
8.49765850 Turk_East
8.87598445 Iranian_Fars
8.98519338 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.30824366 Turk_South
10.34009671 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.47196257 Turk_Central_West
10.50551760 Turk_Anatolia
10.80859380 Iranians
10.93834082 Iran_Central_East
11.48843767 Armenian_East
11.91097393 Iran_Khorasan
Target: AzerRep2
Distance: 0.7926% / 0.79259247 | ADC: 0.25x
44.4 Azerbaijani
36.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.6 Turkmen_Iraq
4.2 Uzbekistan_Jews
2.4 Turk_Southeast
1.0 Saudis
0.2 Selkup
#3#4Code:
Gedrosian: 23.12
Siberian: 1.40
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.06
North_European: 7.96
South_Asian 2.97
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.59
East_Asian: 3.46
Caucasian: 41.52
SSA: 0.93
Distance to: AzerRep3
3.72061823 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.74223195 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.24994118 Zaza
4.30558939 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.82785667 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.84253033 Azerbaijani
6.74874062 Kurd_Sorani
7.15985335 Iranian
7.21531704 Turkmen_Iraq
7.27938871 Kurds
7.49703275 Kurd
7.82842257 Turk_Southeast
7.88574664 Lur_Iran
8.13971744 Turk_East
9.73973819 Iranian_Fars
9.79160355 Turk_Central_East
10.06794418 Uzbekistan_Jews
10.12353199 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.93661282 Iranians
10.98519003 Turk_South
11.03108336 Armenian_East
11.13803843 Iran_Mazandaran
11.21046832 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
11.37356145 Iran_Central_East
11.66537183 Iran_Khorasan
Target: AzerRep3
Distance: 1.2008% / 1.20082840 | ADC: 0.25x
62.0 Talysh_Azerbaijan
33.2 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.2 Turk_Ahiska
1.2 North_Ossetians
0.6 Japanese
0.4 JPT30
0.4 YRI30
#5Code:
Gedrosian: 21.51
Siberian: 2.12
Northwest_African: 0.12
Southeast_Asian: 0.81
Atlantic_Med: 8.84
North_European: 9.00
South_Asian 2.74
East_African 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 14.38
East_Asian: 3.47
Caucasian: 36.93
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: AzerRep4
2.84281551 Azerbaijani
3.48162318 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.55173593 Turk_Southeast
4.86738123 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.26263242 Turkmen_Iraq
5.43565083 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.16326212 Kurd_Sorani
6.75809885 Zaza
7.91359590 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.30201180 Turk_Central_East
8.35736202 Turk_South
8.89217634 Iranian_Fars
9.32612996 Lur_Iran
9.58160216 Turk_Central_West
9.59544684 Turk_Anatolia
9.67090482 Kurd
9.87665935 Iranian
9.91781730 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.05546618 Kurds
10.36431860 Turk_East
10.49837130 Iran_Central_East
10.57739098 Iran_Khorasan
11.39326117 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.63204195 Iranians
11.80897963 Turk_Southwest
Target: AzerRep4
Distance: 1.0237% / 1.02370930 | ADC: 0.25x
76.2 Azerbaijani
16.2 Turkmen_Iraq
2.6 Tajiks
2.4 Saudis
1.6 Iran_Central_East
1.0 Yagnobi
Code:Gedrosian: 20.44
Siberian: 2.92
Northwest_African: 0.32
Southeast_Asian: 1.48
Atlantic_Med: 10.29
North_European: 8.47
South_Asian 2.21
East_African 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 11.70
East_Asian: 2.88
Caucasian: 38.71
SSA: 0.43
Distance to: AzerRep5
2.05165787 Azerbaijani
2.22528650 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.98576623 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.55778021 Turk_Southeast
5.74878248 Turk_Central_East
5.92815317 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.45928789 Zaza
6.60210572 Turk_South
6.84783177 Turkmen_Iraq
7.43038357 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.58170825 Turk_Anatolia
7.70223344 Turk_Central_West
7.88594319 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.89374436 Turk_East
7.99076342 Kurd_Sorani
10.03201376 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.29947086 Turk_Southwest
10.50423248 Iranian
10.50502737 Lur_Iran
10.57576948 Kurd
10.66906275 Kurds
11.04968325 Iranian_Fars
11.40652883 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.41125322 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.91837657 Yoruk
Target: AzerRep5
Distance: 0.8429% / 0.84289903 | ADC: 0.25x
55.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
30.2 Azerbaijani
7.0 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.8 Turk_Southeast
1.0 French_Basque
0.6 Cambodians
0.4 Sardinian