Probably. Dagestanis have heavily invested in Gedrosia instead:)
Only Tabasaran and Kumyks (and Dagestani Azeris) score higher that 1% on average.
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Probably. Dagestanis have heavily invested in Gedrosia instead:)
Only Tabasaran and Kumyks (and Dagestani Azeris) score higher that 1% on average.
There are georgian_adjara in dodecad k12b(average result)Quote:
Originally Posted by placebo
Georgian_Adjara,19.54,0.59,0,0,7.8,4.1,0.54,0.05,8.46,0.31,58.62,0
(Simsiyah olanlar doğu avrasya)
Distance to: Georgian_Adjara
3.69837802 Laz
4.53921799 Hemshin
4.97304736 Georgian_Imereti
6.29452937 Georgian
6.96685725 Turk_Ahiska
7.55353560 Turk_East_Black_Sea
7.64826124 Georgian_Mingrelian
7.83883920 Georgian_Gurian
8.66963667 Greek_Pontus
9.97821126 Georgian_Svan
10.39746604 Abkhazian
11.12161859 Armenian_East
12.91823517 Armenian_West
13.96625576 Udi_Azerbaijan
14.32852400 Turk_East
15.42428280 Ossetian_South
16.01645404 Assyrian_North
16.18077254 Azeri_Jew
16.34772767 Assyrian_West
16.59332697 Assyrian_South
18.14833877 Ossetian
18.30670096 Adyghe
18.31006827 Zaza
18.47696674 Greek_Cappadocia
18.63178735 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Target: Georgian_Adjara
Distance: 2.5612% / 2.56120702 | ADC: 0.25x RC
60.7 Laz
36.2 Georgian_Imereti
3.1 Iran_Mazandaran
What is the map in question? it seems to be have edited out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sterling Archer
Kyp posted a map of South Asian admixture among the population of West Asia. It didn't have the North Caucasus, hence my question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Me too bro, I love you back :grouphug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Doublr
Turk from Manisa(all of his/her ancestors from Manisa):
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/i...YzvgQ&usqp=CAU
Gedrosia 12.93 Pct
Siberian 5.31 Pct
Northwest_African 1.4
Southeast_Asian 2.36 Pct
Atlantic_Med 15.72 Pct
North_European 16.47 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African 1.33 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.91 Pct
East_Asian 3.44 Pct
Caucasus 31.09 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Target: Manisa
Distance: 1.8030% / 1.80297345 | ADC: 0.25x RC
48.4 Turk_Northwest
17.6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
10.5 Italian_Apulia
8.5 Turk_Trakya
7.0 Yagnobi
3.6 Iraqi_Arab
2.2 Ethiopian
1.6 Dai
0.6 Spanish_Canarias
Karaboğa :cool:
Iraq,Turkmen
https://scontent.fesb2-1.fna.fbcdn.n...01&oe=606AE644
i am not sure that result posted before
MA2195 Ottoman :cool:
An Ottoman Turk result from 1400-1600 AD :cool:
He is from Central Anatolia Kırşehir :cool:
Gedrosia 11.62 Pct
Siberian 22.95 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 6.87 Pct
North_European 19.68 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 0.75 Pct
East_Asian 24.61 Pct
Caucasus 13.41 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.13 Pct
Distance to: OTTOMAN
6.75857233 Nogai_Stavropol
6.96827812 Karakalpak
7.47665032 Nogai_Astrakhan
11.64553133 Turkmen_Afghanistan
12.35340034 Kazakh
12.72848381 Tatar_Siberia
12.87935557 Uzbeki
14.18598604 Tubalar
14.57820291 Bashkir_South
15.41960765 Kyrgyz_Pamir
15.61818812 Uyghur
15.64541786 Uzbek
16.14852934 Altaian_Chelkan
16.71938097 Crimean_Tatar_Steppe
17.03699211 Kyrgyz
18.14460250 Hazara
18.25487880 Shor
20.37753174 Khakass
20.55526210 Turkmen_Uzbekistan
22.19180029 Altaian_Telengit
22.66550463 Lipka_Tatar
22.82168267 Altaian_Kizhi
23.40761628 Bashkir_Central
24.34951129 Tatar_Zabolotniye
27.17373180 Turkmen_Iran
Target: OTTOMAN
Distance: 3.0321% / 3.03206817 | ADC: 0.25x RC
46.0 Nogai_Astrakhan
28.4 Tubalar
18.3 Nogai
7.3 Turkmen_Afghanistan
Is that OTTOMAN good example for non mixed Oghuz Turk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Proto Oghuz Turks were like that?
Is that OTTOMAN good example for non mixed Oghuz Turk?Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
Proto Oghuz Turks were like that?
He does seem to lack any Middle Eastern admixture. Similar to Nogais.Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
So proto Oghuz Turks were more like that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Altaylı
@Altaylı
I'm speculating the odds here as we do not have a legit sample yet. In my view, DA87 is a decent example for the "tribe founder" Oghuz, which called "İç Oğuz" in Divanı Lügatıt Türk. MA2195, on the other hand, could be of the "Dış Oğuz" that is of Salur origin or a Khwarezmian refugee escaped from Mongols.
These tests have no radiocarbon and the date given (1400-1600) just an estimation. So they could be from any period, MA2196 seems to be from the Beylik Era, for example.
What we are sure that our old method to use DA89 is not applicable anymore, and MA2195 also does not fit the modern Anatolian Turks, while DA87 gets a "pass" model in qpAdm.
Tsakhur(not sure, but likely) from Azerbaijan:
Population
Gedrosia 24.87 Pct
Siberian 2.38 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 4.2 Pct
North_European 18.87 Pct
South_Asian 1.11 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 5.52 Pct
East_Asian 1.36 Pct
Caucasus 41.15 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.55 Pct
Distance to: Tsakhur
2.57060304 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
4.54401805 Chechen
4.89177882 Ingush
5.44787114 Kumyk
5.64351841 Lezgin
6.70563196 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.57225858 Lak
8.70009195 Kubachi_Dagestan
8.72946161 Balkar
8.78223206 Karachay
8.92882411 Azerbaijani_North
8.93508254 Adyghe
9.17811527 Kabardin
9.22030911 Avar
9.41533855 Tabasaran
9.43932201 Abazin
9.53399706 Circassian
9.96855055 Kaitag_Dagestan
9.97652244 Ossetian
10.96557796 Dargin
12.22514213 Ossetian_South
13.89548488 Talysh_Azerbaijan
13.93794461 Azerbaijani_Turkey
13.94069941 Azerbaijani
14.00827613 Azerbaijani_Iran
Afghan, 18 percent North European
Gedrosia 35.49 Pct
Siberian 3.24 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 1.46 Pct
North_European 18.09 Pct
South_Asian 17.16 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 2.32 Pct
East_Asian 0.92 Pct
Caucasus 21.33 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Fezza
4.16078118 Pashtun_Kandahar
5.83856147 Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
7.54394459 Kho
7.58761491 Pashtun_Tarkalani
7.78016067 Pashtun_Uthmankhel
8.69237022 Tajik_Kabul
8.94585379 Pamiri_Ishkashim
9.51176640 Nuristani
9.55367992 Kalash
9.93486789 Pashtun_Yusafzai
Target: Fezza
Distance: 1.6148% / 1.61476099 | ADC: 0.5x RC
52.9 Kho
31.0 Pashtun_Kandahar
16.1 Dargin
Distance to: Fezza
1.28659615 75.80% Kalash + 24.20% Kumyk
1.39270113 19.60% Chechen + 80.40% Kho
1.39552214 77.00% Kho + 23.00% Lezgin
1.41884305 19.00% Ingush + 81.00% Kho
1.46714962 80.00% Kho + 20.00% Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
1.49683820 22.40% Kabardin + 77.60% Kalash
1.57803200 21.80% Balkar + 78.20% Kalash
1.62808235 21.80% Abazin + 78.20% Kalash
1.70360599 21.40% Circassian + 78.60% Kalash
1.72101614 83.80% Kho + 16.20% Ossetian_South
Half Pashtun half German
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Gedrosia 23.69 Pct
Siberian 0.67 Pct
Northwest_African 0.1 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.86 Pct
Atlantic_Med 19.31 Pct
North_European 30.84 Pct
South_Asian 10.61 Pct
East_African 0.22 Pct
Southwest_Asian 1.87 Pct
East_Asian -
Caucasus 11.84 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Karin
1.47787743 49.20% Icelandic + 50.80% Pashtun_Tarkalani
1.59567467 49.80% German_Northwest + 50.20% Pashtun_Tarkalani
1.61651379 49.40% German_Northwest + 50.60% Pashtun_Uthmankhel
1.70513076 49.60% Icelandic + 50.40% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
1.76200368 49.80% Pashtun_Tarkalani + 50.20% Scottish
1.76777880 49.80% English_North + 50.20% Pashtun_Tarkalani
1.79111290 48.60% Danish + 51.40% Tajik_Panjshir&Kapisa
1.82559225 48.80% Icelandic + 51.20% Pashtun_Uthmankhel
1.88285991 52.00% English_South + 48.00% Kalash
1.92639628 52.40% Dutch + 47.60% Kalash
Free my nigga, Gecko :pout:
Azerbaijani from the Republic.
Gedrosia 20.6 Pct
Siberian 2.75 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.3 Pct
Atlantic_Med 9.3 Pct
North_European 11.42 Pct
South_Asian 2.22 Pct
East_African 0.41 Pct
Southwest_Asian 10.21 Pct
East_Asian 2.06 Pct
Caucasus 40.74 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Sarkhan
3.51742804 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.56029493 Azerbaijani_North
4.16575323 Azerbaijani
4.87981557 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.21956895 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
6.24185870 Turk_Southeast
6.75402843 Turk_Central_East
7.00342773 Zaza
7.24600580 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.24765479 Udi_Azerbaijan
7.45301281 Turk_East
7.79744189 Talysh_Azerbaijan
7.90633923 Turk_South
8.24970302 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.45460821 Kurd_Adygea
8.81306984 Turk_Central_West
9.10879794 Yazidi
9.62523246 Iraq_Turkmen
9.70330356 Kurd_Sorani
10.12806990 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
10.40692558 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.81019426 Kumyk
10.96061586 Ingush
10.96552324 Iranian
11.13033243 Adyghe
double
n=6 Ethnic Persians, from different regions. If you are interested in Kit numbers I can send them
East1,29.37,2.43,0.5,0.55,3.71,9.12,7.65,0.65,13.23,0.36,31.5,0.94
East2,26.97,0.63,3.71,0,8.3,9.34,6.82,0,8.78,0.45,34.63,0.38
South1,27.79,0.47,0.94,0.71,5.05,7.59,5.27,1.29,14.31,0.7,35.07,0.8
South2,27.98,1.54,2.43,0,4.14,6.69,6.34,1.65,13.11,0,35.53,0.57
West1,25.26,0.75,2.65,0,5.29,10.29,4.89,0,12.29,1.72,36.86,0
West2,27.37,3.34,2.56,0.74,5.33,5.75,2.85,0.24,9.46,0,42.31,0
Can you send me from pm?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
East2 has some North African for some reason, most likely not real as I have Russians with 2% NW Afro (usually the V5 chip)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Target: East2
Distance: 1.6272% / 1.62722917 | ADC: 0.25x RC
56.7 Iran_Mazandaran
13.6 Balkan_Gypsy
13.0 Kubachi_Dagestan
7.3 Algerian
6.3 Iran_Khorasan
3.1 Sardinian
Azerbaijani from the Republic. Likely from the Northern part.
Gedrosia 18.33 Pct
Siberian 2.94 Pct
Northwest_African 0.08 Pct
Southeast_Asian 1.62 Pct
Atlantic_Med 4.98 Pct
North_European 12.62 Pct
South_Asian 5.22 Pct
East_African 0.24 Pct
Southwest_Asian 9.29 Pct
East_Asian 2.9 Pct
Caucasus 41.77 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: Zeynal
6.02329644 Azerbaijani_North
7.31474538 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
7.36150121 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.93080702 Azerbaijani
8.26792598 Azerbaijani_Iran
9.59533220 Abazin
9.79249713 Turk_Southeast
9.81531966 Turk_Central_East
9.89516043 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
9.92734607 Karachay
9.97665776 Adyghe
10.12843522 Kabardin
10.13524050 Kumyk
10.15134966 Talysh_Azerbaijan
10.15998524 Circassian
10.18167963 Turk_South
10.19204592 Turk_East
10.24725329 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.29636344 Udi_Azerbaijan
10.49305008 Ingush
10.68825524 Zaza
10.83779037 Balkar
10.92770790 Ossetian
11.03661180 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.62825008 Turk_Central_West
Assyrian from Urmia, West-Azerbaijan Province (Iran)
Gedrosia: 17.62
Siberian: 0.09
NW_African: 0.74
SE_Asian: 1.61
Atlantic_Med: 10.53
North_European: 4.00
South_Asia: 0.00
East_African: 0.00
SW_Asian: 18.31
East_Asian: 0.00
Caucasus: 47.05
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Assyrian_Urmia
2.61181929 Assyrian_North
2.72448160 Assyrian_West
2.87892341 Azeri_Jew
2.89701571 Assyrian_South
4.16223498 Armenian_West
5.43656141 Kurdish_Jew
5.59189592 Iranian_Jew
6.15600520 Armenian_East
6.26793427 Iraqi_Jew
6.58836095 Mandean
7.68952534 Turk_East
8.91348978 Udi_Azerbaijan
9.31946350 Nusayri_Turkey
10.29916501 Greek_Pontus
10.38176286 Zaza
10.64247152 Lebanese_Christian
10.78007885 Turk_East_Black_Sea
10.89319053 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.39065845 Greek_Cappadocia
11.43178464 Iraq_Turkmen
11.75295707 Lebanese_Muslim
11.77333428 Kurd_Kurmanji
12.04306024 Turk_Ahiska
12.18654586 Hemshin
12.25521114 Turk_Southeast
Target: Assyrian_Urmia
Distance: 1.3595% / 1.35950923 | ADC: 0.5x RC
59.7 Assyrian_North
21.9 Armenian_East
16.8 Assyrian_West
1.6 Dai
can I get them in the Pm as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
I matched with South2 on 23andme and he listed 3/4 of his grandparents were born in Lamerd, Fars and 1/4 was born in Eqlid, Fars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Don't know if this guy has been posted before. The last name is Georgian-sounding (-shvili) but Google yields some Chechen judo fighters when I enter it and he also has several Chechen matches on GEDmatch, so it's safe to assume he is some kind of Chechen, maybe from Eastern Georgia. His Med is very high for a Chechen though.
J-M67
D4j
Gedrosia 21.23 Pct
Siberian 2.3 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.24 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.97 Pct
North_European 18.52 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 3.76 Pct
East_Asian 1.96 Pct
Caucasus 43.02 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: EB
3.92237173 Ingush
4.59981521 Tsakhur_Azerbaijan
4.66722616 Kumyk
5.14661054 Chechen
5.33448217 Kabardin
5.75788155 Circassian
5.77941173 Adyghe
5.85363989 Abazin
5.88045066 Karachay
5.96137568 Balkar
Distance to: EB
1.33775091 91.20% Ingush + 8.80% Italian_Emilia
1.35738054 91.00% Ingush + 9.00% Italian_Tuscany
1.35808822 91.80% Ingush + 8.20% Italian_Lombardy
1.36759389 8.60% French_Corsica + 91.40% Ingush
1.39210147 94.60% Ingush + 5.40% Spanish_Basque
1.42584566 94.00% Ingush + 6.00% Spanish_La_Rioja
1.42584647 91.40% Ingush + 8.60% Italian_Liguria
1.43967022 90.40% Ingush + 9.60% Italian_Romagna
1.45370254 93.60% Ingush + 6.40% Spanish_Aragon
1.47772052 5.80% French_Southwest + 94.20% Ingush
Target: EB
Distance: 1.3238% / 1.32382786 | ADC: 0.5x RC
91.2 Ingush
5.7 Italian_Emilia
3.1 French_Corsica
Some North Caucasians individually score higher Atlantic_Med than average , I've seen quite a few. I even saw a North Ossetian get modeled like %15-20 Greek Islander. Dont know why.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I have another result like that if i remember correctly I will post it soon, his surname is kumykov but he gets modelled like %80 Circassian + %20 Anatolian Greek if i remember correctly
Found his results but He is probably mixed because he scores less North_Caucasian than me on k36.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
He gets modeled like this on k12b
Target: Kumykov
Distance: 1.5170% / 1.51697397 | R3P
69.0 Ossetian
25.0 Greek_Cappadocia
6.0 Pamiri_Ishkashim
Target: Kumykov
Distance: 2.0659% / 2.06592222 | ADC: 0.5x RC
63.8 Adyghe
13.7 Greek_Cappadocia
9.7 Abazin
8.7 Udi_Azerbaijan
4.1 Balkan_Gypsy
^^^^Interesting how Armenians score higher SW Asian than their neighbours.
And it’s not because somehow Arabs colonized the Caspian or mixed with the locals there. The Armenian Levantine, Iranian farmer, and Anatolian ancestors in the Caucasus simply stayed more sheltered than the other inhabitants of the Caspian and Kurdistan and Turkey who were more affected than Armenians by the waves of Central Asian Aryan Iranians and Turco-Mongols. Thus they have less (not none) Central Asian ancestors than Persians, Kurds, and Turks and therefore retained more of their ancient Levantine, Iranian farmer and Anatolian ancestry. That’s the reason they have less northern and eastern ancestry than Kurds from that regionQuote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
With formal stats even Armenians do show some Central Asian admixture compared to the Chalcolithic inhabitants of the Caspian area. You can see a little of it also in a calculator that doesn’t have a “Caucausus “ component
Zoro do you know anything about Chechen-Dagestani origin kurdish tribes from Muş/Turkey? Their tribe names are "Çeçen" and "Lezgi", they are supposed to be the descendents of immigrants that exiled to Turkey after Russo-Circassian war and settled among Kurds, then they got assimilated, now they are speaking Kurdish. Do you have any dna results from that tribe??Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
I have a result she has Turkish name and surname, she has kurdish matches, she speaks kurdish but She gets modelled like %60-65 Kurdish + %35-40 Dagestani/Chechen. I think she might be from that tribe, i have her gedmatch kit number and some information about her. If you are interested i can send you.
This is how she gets modelled on k12b:
Target: Emine
Distance: 1.3639% / 1.36389434 | ADC: 0.25x RC
44.9 Kurd_Adygea
34.9 Kumyk
8.0 Lezgin
6.6 Kuwait2
5.6 Turkmen_TM
Target: Emine
Distance: 1.3268% / 1.32675148 | ADC: 0.25x RC
81.6 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.3 Iranian
7.1 Kuwait2
Some information about them:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chechen_Kurds
Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
The first time I heard the name "Lezgin" is when I was a kid and a Kurdish cousin of mine was named "Lezgin". At that time I didn't know there was even people named Lezgin. So when I grew up and got into genetics I found out there are people called Lezgin and Chechen.
So I asked my parents why my cousin was named Lezgin. They said they didn't know but it's just a name. They didn't know there was even a group of people called Lezgin :)
Back to your question. No I didn't know about Chechen-Dagestani origin kurdish tribes from Muş/Turkey with tribe names "Çeçen" and "Lezgi" but I have always been curious about why some Kurds name their kids Lezgin and why in IBS gene to gene comparison why Lezgin show up 1st in Kurmanji Kurds and visa versa.
For example, I am curious why Iraqi Kurds show up 1st for Lezgins in this IBS list and why Armenians and Fars Iranians are so much lower in the list. This list was done using about 350,000 SNPs. Not only that, but if you check Pi-Hat column (based on IBD) Iraqi Kurds by far have the largest IBD with Lezgin.
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IBS with LEZGIN 350k SNPs IBS PI_HAT Kurd-Iraq-WGS
0.85119 0.08 Adygei 0.84888 0.04 Russia_Abkhasian 0.84796 0.00 Chechen 0.84775 0.00 Ossetian-North 0.84755 0.00 Armenian 0.84738
0.00 Georgian 0.84735 0.00 Czech 0.84697 0.00 Greek 0.84693 0.00 Bulgarian 0.84670 0.00 Orcadian 0.84653 0.00 Icelandic 0.84646 0.00 Iranian-Fars 0.84640
0.00 Turkish-Kayseri 0.84633 0.00 Spanish 0.84624 0.00 Basque 0.84620 0.00 Norwegian 0.84620 0.00 Polish 0.84618 0.00 Hungarian 0.84609 0.00 Finnish 0.84607 0.00 Russian 0.84605 0.00 Estonian 0.84593 0.00 English 0.84593 0.00 Albanian.DG 0.84578 0.00 Tuscan 0.84575 0.00 French 0.84569 0.00 Tajik 0.84517 0.00 Jew_Iraqi 0.84504 0.00 Pathan 0.84498 0.00 Sardinian 0.84459 0.00 Kalash 0.84415 0.00 Druze 0.84411 0.00 Saami 0.84405 0.00 Sindhi 0.84390 0.00 Burusho 0.84390 0.00 Tlingit 0.84354 0.00 Brahui 0.84282 0.00 Brahmin 0.84259 0.00 Makrani 0.84235 0.00 Balochi 0.84210 0.00 Jew_Yemenite 0.84207 0.00 Uyghur 0.84203 0.00 Mansi 0.84178 0.00 Hazara 0.84097 0.00 Bengali 0.84096 0.00 Punjabi 0.84096 0.00 Samaritan 0.84095 0.00 BedouinB 0.84069 0.00 Tubalar 0.84003 0.00 Kyrgyz_Kyrgyzstan 0.84001 0.00 Jordanian 0.83997 0.00 Kapu 0.83959 0.00 Madiga 0.83958 0.00 Mala 0.83910 0.00 Relli 0.83862 0.00 Irula 0.83796 0.00 Mexico_Zapotec.DG 0.83677 0.00 Mixtec 0.83636 0.00 Even 0.83605 0.00 Quechua 0.83587 0.00 Yakut 0.83566 0.00 Burmese 0.83554 0.00 Mongola 0.83540 0.00 Eskimo_Sireniki.DG 0.83525 0.00 Mayan 0.83516 0.00 Tu 0.83506 0.00 Hezhen 0.83501 0.00 Daur 0.83497 0.00 Pima 0.83484 0.00 Xibo 0.83484 0.00 Mixe 0.83472 0.00 Khonda_Dora 0.83442 0.00 Oroqen 0.83435 0.00 Japanese 0.83428 0.00 Korean 0.83419 0.00 Ulchi 0.83418 0.00 Han 0.83414 0.00 Itelmen 0.83399 0.00 Miao 0.83396 0.00 Thai 0.83394 0.00 She 0.83380 0.00 Cambodian 0.83376 0.00 Naxi 0.83351 0.00 Piapoco 0.83349 0.00 Kinh 0.83345 0.00 Tujia 0.83332 0.00 Surui 0.83320 0.00 YANA_UP_WGS 0.83319 0.00 Yi 0.83314 0.00 Kusunda 0.83305 0.00 Dai 0.83304 0.00 China_Lahu 0.83295 0.00 Karitiana 0.83288 0.00 Ami.DG 0.83246 0.00 Dusun 0.83169 0.00 Igorot 0.83165 0.00 Saharawi 0.83035 0.00 Mozabite 0.82886 0.00 Bougainville 0.82646 0.00 Papuan 0.82391 0.00 Somali 0.80977 0.00 Masai 0.80070 0.00 BantuKenya 0.78477 0.00 Luo 0.78437 0.00 Luhya 0.78351 0.00 Gambian 0.78343 0.00 Mandenka 0.78278 0.00 Mende 0.78164 0.00 Esan 0.78116 0.00 Yoruba 0.78052 0.00 Biaka 0.77614 0.00 Mbuti 0.77329 0.00 Ju_hoan_North 0.76765 0.00 Khomani_San 0.76762 0.00
Which command did you use to run IBS as well as those IBD scores? Couldn't see the tutorial under admixtools.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
I don't know about IBS but If we exclude Adyghe tribes I'd say there are about 1300-1400 Kurdish families of Dagestani and Chechen origin living in iraq and most of them dont even know their origins they are fully assimilated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
"Within the course of time, it is observed that
families lost their ethnical and cultural characteristics, and adopted common customs
and traditions, as well as common languages (Kurdish and Arabic). Therefore, those
Chechens do not remember anything but
their lost origins regarding their background."
https://i.hizliresim.com/ScKbVj.png
If anyone is interested I will leave a link of an article about it:
https://web.archive.org/web/20160305..._134ingtum.pdf
Actually I ran it using Plink. Here are the steps:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaspias
1- Make 2 column ( POP ID) text file of the good samples you want to use in the run, C.txt: ..../plink --bfile MASTER9 --keep C.txt --make-bed --out IBS
2- Use only SNPs overlapping in all samples: /plink --bfile IBS --geno 0.001 --make-bed --out IBS1
3- Calculate IBS using "genome" flag : /plink --bfile IBS1 --genome
4- Your results will be in folder plink.genome
Very interesting. Most of those areas are Arabs except for Dohuk, Sulemani, Hawler (Arbil) and Kirkuk but that still wouldn't explain why my cousin's name is Lezgin.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
Edit: I just noticed that Chechens are no 6 on my IBS list for Iraqi Kurds posted at
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ome-here/page3
Just read your linked article about Chechen Kurds. I didn’t know about them
Most of them dont know about their origins neither :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
"Circassians in Iraq were settled in Diyala, Baghdad, Mosul, Anbar (Fallujah), and Kirkuk
in particular. In addition, families who voluntarily migrated from North and South Dagestan in a short while before and after the forced migration from North Caucasus settled in
Duhok, Erbil and Sulaymaniyah."
I think Circassians mostly settled in Arab majority provinces while Dagestanis (mostly Lezgin) settled in Kurdish majority provinces. Interesting but it seems Circassians are more aware of their origins and preserved it much better than Dagestanis and Chechens.
Yeah growing up i knew up Circassians in Iraq but not Chechens and Lezgins. I also noticed that Adygei are no 3 right after Lezgin and Armenian on the Kurd IBS list I posted in the other thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by RatCat
It’s sad and frustrating that Kurds along with other people in the area don’t know much about their ancestors beyond their grand or great grand parents whether it be kurds in Balochistan or kurds in Caucauses or Iraq
All I can go by is mostly genetics which shows Iraqi Kurds with significantly more northern and eastern ancestry than many of their neighbors using IBS and formal stats