Dodecad k12b West & Central Asian results Vol 4.

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Possible. Khoy is majority Azeri. And the Kurdish tribes of Maku and Khoy had history in Eastern Anatolia aswell.

But 3.30% EA is not unsusual for Kurds and other Iranians. It's not much more than the average.

Also Khoy is hardly "eastern" Kurdistan. It's a rarer northern region for Kurds.

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Khoy is 'eastern' Kurdistan for sure and it was also a homeland of the Medes. And Kurds are derived from the Medes. So people who are derived from the Medes, like Kurds, have the biggest claims to that region.
Turks can never claim these lands, because Turks are not native to Northwestern Asia anyway.


Btw, there are many different Kurdish clans and tribes in Eastern Kurdistan. One of those tribes is a Donboli tribe. Donboli tribe of Khoy has an Ezdi origin:

The Donboli came from Bokhtan, a Kurdish region between Siirt and Cizre in what is now southeastern Turkey. The first ancestor was a certain Isa Beg, who became in 1378 the ruler of Sokmanabad. His descendant, Sheikh Ahmad Beg, entered service of the Turkmen Aq Quyunlu, and then the family held several posts in Persian administration. According to Sharafkhan Bidlisi, the members of Donboli tribes were Yezidi, but one of their leaders by the name of Isa Beg, together with other families, converted to Islam

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donboli_(tribe)

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Originally Posted by Leto

Figuratively 99% of Kurds are some kind of Muslims. The Yazidis are a vanishingly small population, now largely uprooted by various armed conflicts and political instability in Iraq and Syria. And you can't even become a Yazidi, just like the Druze one has to be born into a Yazidi family in order to count as such. In the West and Russia you people just intermarry and get diluted with time being cut off from the traditional lifestyle.

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If people leave us alone in the 21st century we will survive. There are still more than 1 million Ezdi Kurds, so we even still have a right for our homeland called Ezdixan, and we are working for it as we speak.

Of course Ezdis are mixing with other people around them, but they are a minority. And those who are married to other races are not considered Yezidi anymore.


Some examples in Russia are people like Zara. She has an Ezdi origin, but she was married to a Russian dude. So, she lost her 'Ezdi' identity now and is considered just a Kurd.

Another example of a lost soul is Ksenia Borodina (Ксения Бородина). Her father is an Ezdi from Armenia and her mother Russian. She is a lost cause, assimilated and here genes are gone to a bigger Russian population because she is married to a Russian dude and has kids with him.

https://i.postimg.cc/HL7V2Q7c/image.pnghttps://i.postimg.cc/0QzRmf6F/Ksenia...a3-427x640.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/d1PDSL8W/image.jpghttps://i.postimg.cc/RF7qr4dv/image.jpg

I'd write a post about assimilation but let's not flood the thread with too much irrelevant posting. It's already large as a motherfucker.

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Originally Posted by Leto;[URL="tel:7543545"

7543545[/URL]]Full Kurds and Persians can score 2-3% East Eurasian too, that's not unusual.

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Do you seriously think that the Caucasus component references don’t carry E. Eurasian ?? Here are the Caucasus component references from the Dodecad K12 spreadsheet

Dodecad K12 References
Population	Caucasus
Georgians	73.97
Abhkasians	70.00
North_Ossetians	56.70
Balkars	56.60
Adygei	56.54
Chechens	51.30
Turkish	46.40
Kumyks	46.30
Turks	46.25
Lezgins	45.60
Iranian	40.30
Nogais	37.23

Whatever E. Eurasian these references carry a sample scoring 50% Caucasus gets a 50% cut of their E. Eurasian.

Same thing for the Gedrosian component S. Asian references whether they’re Brahui, Pashtun or whatever . They all carry significant E./S. Eurasian. Any sample scoring 30% Gedrosian getss a 30% cut of their E./S. Eurasian

Same with the S. Indian references

You need to tally up all the E. Eurasians to get a total but you can be assured that it will end up being much more than 2-3%

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Stop talking out of your ass please. The Tats in Azerbaijan live in the Northeast bordering Dagestan. A region that didnt have much turkic prescence historically. Why should turkic ancestry increase towards Chechnya? The Tats are mixed. However not much with Turks but probably with other peasants and settled people previously living there. The most turkic regions in Azerbaijan Republic are in the Northwest bordering Georgia and Armenia and also in the south bordering Iran. The northeast is the least turkic region among all Azeris.

Tats are not a subgroup of Talysh. They have completely different origins. The Tats of Azerbaijan speak a dialect of Persian. Talysh speak a northwest iranic language.

Don't mix up Tats of Azerbaijan Rep. (SW-Iranic) with Tats of Iran (NW-Iranic). Tat is an exonym.

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I see Tats as Persianized Talysh people living in the Caucasus. You can have a different few. It is up to you.

Tats and even the Chechens would have some Eastern Eurasian ancestry for the same reason as why Eastern Iranic Ossetians would have some Eastern Asian ancestry.

Areas with mixed Tat and Caucasian Tatar (Azeri) population

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...aijan_1890.png

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Originally Posted by Zoro

Do you seriously think that the Caucasus component references don’t carry E. Eurasian ?? Here are the Caucasus component references from the Dodecad K12 spreadsheet

[FONT="]Dodecad K12 References [/FONT]
[FONT="]Population[/FONT]	[FONT="]Caucasus[/FONT]
[FONT="]Georgians[/FONT]	[FONT="]73.97[/FONT]
[FONT="]Abhkasians[/FONT]	[FONT="]70.00[/FONT]
[FONT="]North_Ossetians[/FONT]	[FONT="]56.70[/FONT]
[FONT="]Balkars[/FONT]	[FONT="]56.60[/FONT]
[FONT="]Adygei[/FONT]	[FONT="]56.54[/FONT]
[FONT="]Chechens[/FONT]	[FONT="]51.30[/FONT]
[FONT="]Turkish[/FONT]	[FONT="]46.40[/FONT]
[FONT="]Kumyks[/FONT]	[FONT="]46.30[/FONT]
[FONT="]Turks[/FONT]	[FONT="]46.25[/FONT]
[FONT="]Lezgins[/FONT]	[FONT="]45.60[/FONT]
[FONT="]Iranian[/FONT]	[FONT="]40.30[/FONT]
[FONT="]Nogais[/FONT]	37.23

Whatever E. Eurasian these references carry a sample scoring 50% Caucasus gets a 50% cut of their E. Eurasian.

Same thing for the Gedrosian component S. Asian references whether they’re Brahui, Pashtun or whatever . They all carry significant E./S. Eurasian. Any sample scoring 30% Gedrosian getss a 30% cut of their E./S. Eurasian

Same with the S. Indian references

You need to tally up all the E. Eurasians to get a total but you can be assured that it will end up being much more than 2-3%

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Get the fuck out of my face, Zoro! This thread is about Dodecad and in my book only Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian are Mongoloid components.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Get the fuck out of my face, Zoro! This thread is about Dodecad and in my book only Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian are Mongoloid components.

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This is how an ignorant Indian dumbass replies when they don’t get it

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Originally Posted by Guti

Tats and even the Chechens would have some Eastern Eurasian ancestry for the same reason as why Eastern Iranic Ossetians would have some Eastern Asian ancestry.

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Language is almost irrelevant in the Northwestern Caucasus when it comes to that. IE North Ossetians, Circassian Kabardians and Turkic Karachay-Balkars score similar amounts of Mongoloid (5-10%).

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Originally Posted by Zoro

This is how an ignorant Indian dumbass replies when they don’t get it

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I am Russian, not Indian. Yes, I've been against your propaganda for a long time. Some even suspect you might be Dilawer himself and he is known for holding a big fucking grudge against Gedmatch and Global25.