Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Please. I can't discuss with person who thinks Balkan on 23andme equals Paleo-Balkan xD
You have G25 with ancient samples, sorry.

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Just research y-full and shut up with your pan-slavism already. Greeks don't carry turanid type phenotypes that Vojnik for example carries.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Because thats one of their main phenotypes. Like it or not. Thats a recent input in the Balkans from Slavo-Avar invasions.

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Kipchaks and Avars were Central Asian/Eurasian peoples, they weren't Slavs. Are you one of those Med supremacists who hate everything North of Greece? Even if other Orthodox nations. Remember Russia used to be viewed as the Third Rome after Byzantium fell apart.
I am a practicing Orthodox myself.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Around 30% is exagerated not even in the parts of North Greece with higher Slavic

In Pelponnese its at best 14% or lower

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You're right it's lower. But, this show mainland Greeks more Paleo-Balkan than Greco-Roman genetically.
Check it out, using ancient samples only:
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...ic-scale/page3

Target: Greek_Thrace
Distance: 3.3719% / 0.03371884 | ADC: 0.25x

42.8 Balkan
29.4 Greco-Roman
27.8 Slavic

Target: Greek_Central_Macedonia
Distance: 1.2254% / 0.01225401 | ADC: 0.25x

48.2 Balkan
29.4 Greco-Roman
22.4 Slavic

Target: Albanian
Distance: 1.3211% / 0.01321126 | ADC: 0.25x

61.2 Balkan
19.6 Greco-Roman
19.2 Slavic

Target: Greek_Thessaly
Distance: 1.0292% / 0.01029166 | ADC: 0.25x

58.6 Balkan
30.6 Greco-Roman
10.8 Slavic

Target: Greek_Izmir
Distance: 1.0765% / 0.01076521 | ADC: 0.25x

53.0 Greco-Roman
37.0 Balkan
9.2 Slavic
0.8 Baltic

Target: Greek_Crete
Distance: 1.0445% / 0.01044522 | ADC: 0.25x

91.6 Greco-Roman
7.2 Slavic
1.2 Baltic

Target: Greek_Peloponnese
Distance: 1.4910% / 0.01491038 | ADC: 0.25x

59.0 Balkan
36.2 Greco-Roman
4.8 Baltic

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Originally Posted by Leto

Kipchaks and Avars were Central Asian/Eurasian peoples, they weren't Slavs. Are you one of those Med supremacists who hate everything North of Greece? Even if other Orthodox nations. Remember Russia used to be viewed as the Third Rome after Byzantium fell apart.
I am a practicing Orthodox myself.

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Then why all the Turanid phenotypes but somehow didnt make it into Greece?

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Just research y-full and shut up with your pan-slavism already. Greeks don't carry turanid type phenotypes that Vojnik for example carries.

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Vojnik looks Greek to me, lol. He is dinaro-med.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Please. I can't discuss with person who thinks Balkan on 23andme equals Paleo-Balkan xD
You have G25 with ancient samples, sorry.

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Sorry but majority of Greeks ancestry is a mix of Paleolithic Mainland Greek(what probably is counted as Paleobalkan and shared with people such as Albos) and Neolithic Greek,Aegean,Anatolian.

Its also wrong what the other Greek poster said that Ancient Greeks were almost exclusivly Neolithic they were a mix of Paleolithic and Neolithic plus some Steppe/Yamnaya admixture from the Bronze Age and than on but relativly low in quantity

Sub :thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

Vojnik looks Greek to me, lol. He is dinaro-med.

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He looks Avar Kipchak to me no where near north Greek. He would be seen as a Slav.

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Sorry but majority of Greeks ancestry is a mix of Paleolithic Mainland Greek(what probably is counted as Paleobalkan and shared with people such as Albos) and Neolithic Greek,Aegean,Anatolian.

Its also wrong what the other Greek poster said that Ancient Greeks were almost exclusivly Neolithic they were a mix of Paleolithic and Neolithic
plus some Steppe/Yamnaya admixture from the Bronze Age and than on but relativly low in quantity

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Ok, now post models using ancient samples like I do to support your claims. Talking without any evidence is meaningless.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Then why all the Turanid phenotypes but somehow didnt make it into Greece?

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I don't know much about taxonomy because I consider it bullshit for the most part but Mongoloid admixture is very low in Bulgaria and North Macedonia, 1% at most.