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Hey, let me post some broadly eastern Hungarian K13 results I found- they might interest you.

Vojvodina

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1 Baltic 31.54
2 North_Atlantic 24.47
3 West_Med 18.62
4 East_Med 11.85
5 West_Asian 5.62
6 East_Asian 3.44
7 Siberian 2.02
8 Amerindian 1.26
9 Red_Sea 1.03
10 Northeast_African 0.14

Single Population Sharing:

1 Moldavian 6.38
2 Croatian 7.65
3 Serbian 7.79
4 Hungarian 9.64
5 Romanian 10.32
6 Bulgarian 11.93
7 Austrian 12.92
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 13.1
9 East_German 13.35
10 Ukrainian 13.92
11 South_Polish 14.1
12 Polish 17.26
13 Southwest_Russian 17.84
14 Ukrainian_Belgorod 18.37
15 West_German 19.09
16 Russian_Smolensk 19.42
17 Estonian_Polish 19.62
18 Greek_Thessaly 19.83
19 South_Dutch 20.21
20 Belorussian 20.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 87% Croatian + 13% Sardinian @ 4.56
2 90.4% Moldavian + 9.6% Sardinian @ 4.62
3 69.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 30.1% Sardinian @ 4.74
4 70.6% Southwest_Russian + 29.4% Sardinian @ 4.82
5 52% North_Italian + 48% Erzya @ 4.87
6 67.1% Ukrainian + 32.9% West_Sicilian @ 4.9
7 63.7% Ukrainian + 36.3% Tuscan @ 4.99
8 87.3% Moldavian + 12.7% Southwest_French @ 5.25
9 87.2% Moldavian + 12.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 5.25
10 77.4% Ukrainian_Lviv + 22.6% Sardinian @ 5.28
11 87.5% Moldavian + 12.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 5.29
12 88% Moldavian + 12% Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.31
13 76.2% Ukrainian + 23.8% Sardinian @ 5.32
14 85.3% Moldavian + 14.7% North_Italian @ 5.32
15 86.5% Moldavian + 13.5% Spanish_Galicia @ 5.33
16 89% Moldavian + 11% Spanish_Aragon @ 5.33
17 87.8% Moldavian + 12.2% Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.33
18 87.4% Moldavian + 12.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 5.34
19 88.2% Moldavian + 11.8% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.35
20 86.7% Moldavian + 13.3% Portuguese @ 5.35

Hajdu Bihar, 1/8 Slovak

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North_Atlantic 29.12 Pct
Baltic 37.95 Pct
West_Med 11.53 Pct
West_Asian 7.53 Pct
East_Med 8.87 Pct
Red_Sea 1.28 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.26 Pct
Siberian 1.86 Pct
Amerindian 1.27 Pct
Oceanian 0.17 Pct
Northeast_African 0.16 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

1 Croatian 4.11
2 South_Polish 5.03
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.14
4 Ukrainian 6.19
5 Hungarian 6.52
6 Moldavian 7.04
7 Polish 8.55
8 Southwest_Russian 9.54
9 East_German 9.8
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.01
11 Austrian 10.66
12 Russian_Smolensk 10.88
13 Estonian_Polish 11.42
14 Belorussian 11.8
15 Serbian 12.14
16 Southwest_Finnish 13.51
17 Kargopol_Russian 13.61
18 Estonian 15.13
19 Finnish 15.16
20 North_Swedish 15.95

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 51.5% Estonian + 48.5% Romanian @ 1.21
2 59.7% Hungarian + 40.3% Southwest_Russian @ 1.35
3 55.6% Serbian + 44.4% Estonian @ 1.61
4 68.6% Estonian + 31.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 1.68
5 61% Hungarian + 39% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.68
6 54.8% Estonian + 45.2% Bulgarian @ 1.73
7 71.7% Hungarian + 28.3% Erzya @ 1.77
8 69.3% Estonian + 30.7% Central_Greek @ 1.87
9 80.6% Croatian + 19.4% Finnish @ 1.97
10 71.8% Estonian + 28.2% South_Italian @ 1.98
11 56.7% Ukrainian_Lviv + 43.3% Hungarian @ 1.99
12 90.4% South_Polish + 9.6% Sephardic_Jewish @ 2.01
13 51.5% Ukrainian + 48.5% Hungarian @ 2.03
14 77.6% South_Polish + 22.4% Romanian @ 2.03
15 91% South_Polish + 9% Tunisian_Jewish @ 2.05
16 75.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 24.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.08
17 87.8% South_Polish + 12.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.09
18 88.1% South_Polish + 11.9% Central_Greek @ 2.09
19 89.3% South_Polish + 10.7% South_Italian @ 2.09
20 91.1% South_Polish + 8.9% Libyan_Jewish @ 2.09

Borsod-Abauj-zemplen

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North_Atlantic 31.84 Pct
Baltic 38.66 Pct
West_Med 10.60 Pct
West_Asian 4.26 Pct
East_Med 9.32 Pct
Red_Sea 0.23 Pct
South_Asian 2.21 Pct
East_Asian 1.62 Pct
Siberian 0.96 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.30 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Single Population Sharing:

1 South_Polish 4.87
2 Ukrainian 6.91
3 Ukrainian_Lviv 6.95
4 Croatian 7.05
5 Hungarian 7.46
6 Polish 8.25
7 East_German 9.05
8 Southwest_Russian 10.27
9 Moldavian 10.27
10 Austrian 10.44
11 Russian_Smolensk 10.82
12 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.96
13 Belorussian 11.01
14 Estonian_Polish 11.05
15 Southwest_Finnish 11.64
16 North_Swedish 13.8
17 Finnish 13.91
18 Estonian 13.99
19 Serbian 14.03
20 Kargopol_Russian 14.28

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 60.8% Hungarian + 39.2% Belorussian @ 2.96
2 61.1% Hungarian + 38.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.23
3 69.7% Hungarian + 30.3% Lithuanian @ 3.32
4 65.7% South_Polish + 34.3% Hungarian @ 3.41
5 73.3% Belorussian + 26.7% North_Italian @ 3.43
6 74.7% Belorussian + 25.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.44
7 74.5% Belorussian + 25.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.49
8 69.9% Southwest_Russian + 30.1% French @ 3.49
9 73.2% Belorussian + 26.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.49
10 90.2% South_Polish + 9.8% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.54
11 67.4% Hungarian + 32.6% Estonian @ 3.57
12 90.2% South_Polish + 9.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.57
13 70% Estonian + 30% Tuscan @ 3.58
14 89.7% South_Polish + 10.3% Portuguese @ 3.59
15 50.1% Estonian + 49.9% Serbian @ 3.59
16 61% Hungarian + 39% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.61
17 89.7% South_Polish + 10.3% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.61
18 87.3% South_Polish + 12.7% French @ 3.62
19 90.7% South_Polish + 9.3% Tuscan @ 3.64
20 89.9% South_Polish + 10.1% North_Italian @ 3.64

Vojvodina + NE Hungary (as far as I know, it's user MagicaM. He has some Swabian admixture if not mistaken)

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K13

North_Atlantic 35.95
Baltic 29.67
West_Med 14.53
West_Asian 10.62
East_Med 5.39
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.95
East_Asian 0.98
Siberian -
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.56
Sub-Saharan 0.33

K15

North_Sea 29.36
Atlantic 17.50
Baltic 15.02
Eastern_Euro 13.76
West_Med 10.81
West_Asian 7.62
East_Med 3.47
Red_Sea-
South_Asian 1.69
Southeast_Asian 0.05
Siberian-
Amerindian-
Oceanian-
Northeast_African0.31
Sub-Saharan 0.41

My friend, regional roots from Zemplén and central Slovakia. She is Budapester for few generations though. She has recent Polish and Slovak admixture, minor German too.

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1 Baltic 34.1
2 North_Atlantic 32.94
3 West_Med 13.8
4 East_Med 11.77
5 Red_Sea 3.22
6 West_Asian 2.4
7 Amerindian 0.75
8 Siberian 0.63
9 Sub-Saharan 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

1 Hungarian 5.53
2 East_German 7.47
3 Austrian 7.65
4 Croatian 7.69
5 Moldavian 10.13
6 South_Polish 10.18
7 Serbian 10.67
8 Ukrainian_Lviv 11.18
9 Ukrainian 11.88
10 Polish 13.2
11 West_German 14.64
12 Romanian 15
13 North_Swedish 15.28
14 Southwest_Finnish 15.38
15 Southwest_Russian 15.6
16 South_Dutch 15.6
17 Russian_Smolensk 16.09
18 Estonian_Polish 16.19
19 North_German 16.2
20 Belorussian 16.27

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

1 61.4% Belorussian + 38.6% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.37
2 59.1% Belorussian + 40.9% Portuguese @ 3.37
3 61.1% Belorussian + 38.9% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.57
4 61.4% Belorussian + 38.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.7
5 60.2% Belorussian + 39.8% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.83
6 61.6% Estonian_Polish + 38.4% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.85
7 59.7% Belorussian + 40.3% North_Italian @ 3.88
8 59.3% Estonian_Polish + 40.7% Portuguese @ 3.9
9 59% Belorussian + 41% Spanish_Galicia @ 3.98
10 58.6% Estonian + 41.4% Tuscan @ 4.01
11 59.6% Belorussian + 40.4% Spanish_Cataluna @ 4.07
12 63.3% Belorussian + 36.7% Spanish_Andalucia @ 4.09
13 55.7% Estonian + 44.3% North_Italian @ 4.12
14 61.6% Estonian_Polish + 38.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 4.19
15 61.4% Estonian_Polish + 38.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 4.2
16 60.5% Estonian_Polish + 39.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.22
17 62.6% Belorussian + 37.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 4.27
18 61.4% Southwest_Russian + 38.6% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 4.29
19 62.7% Southwest_Russian + 37.3% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.32
20 61.9% Russian_Smolensk + 38.1% Spanish_Murcia @ 4.32

PS first sample from Vojvodina might be from Szekely village. Some Szekelys settled to Vojvodina. I think Kaspias mentioned that (he got the sample).

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

PS first sample from Vojvodina might be from Szekely village. Some Szekelys settled to Vojvodina. I think Kaspias mentioned that (he got the sample).

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I think it is, I immediately noticed the high East Asian, Siberian and Amerindian combined.

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Originally Posted by Chris596

I think it is, I immediately noticed the high East Asian, Siberian and Amerindian combined.

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Yes, that person is haplogroup N also. Typical Vojvodina Hungarians are probably quite Swabian admixed. That region had some of highest German concentration overall, especially in Banat.
They should be pretty different from Szekelys.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

PS first sample from Vojvodina might be from Szekely village. Some Szekelys settled to Vojvodina. I think Kaspias mentioned that (he got the sample).

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Yes, they came from Bukovina.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Székelys_of_Bukovina

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Originally Posted by Chris596

Yes, but I barely have any detectable Germanic, on most calculators I don't get any Germanic at all. If I have some, it might come from my mother. I tend to get lots of West Asian and South European which is unusual for a Hungarian. See my signature this is what I get on G25 Myheritage and in other G25 calculators I always get some Anatolian or lots of Caucasian (10-20%).

See what I get on some calculators:

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Nurzat K12:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9096% / 0.01909608
52.0 Eastern_European
26.4 Southern_European
17.8 Caucasian
2.0 East_Asian
1.6 Near_Eastern
0.2 Siberian

Davidski G25 model:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 3.9207% / 0.03920668
41.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
7.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.0 Han

I suspect that I may have had some assimilated Armenian ancestors on my father's side, or idk, why would I get so much West-Asian as a Hungarian otherwise?

In the G25 model which I got from Davidski, I have 7.6% Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N . I've seen Turkish, Azeri and other West Asian members getting the most of this, so I think this is a West Asian component. And it's almost identical to the amount I get on DNA.land. So I don't know. Maybe I'm right.

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Well, just like Barcin_N, it ultimately traces to Anatolia. But both came to Europe in the Neolithic. Representative of Tepecik ancestry in the Balkans are the Neolithic Greeks, Krepost sample from Bulgaria. Also others in Italy, especially Bronze Age+, have this type of ancestry. Hungarians, at least the limited samples that we have on Global 25, usually don't score it, but there is one person who gets 25% of it. It could also be an overfit, as Tepecik is usually not used with basic components.


https://i.ibb.co/wQSPdsr/image.png

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

Well, just like Barcin_N, it ultimately traces to Anatolia. But both came to Europe in the Neolithic. Representative of Tepecik ancestry in the Balkans are the Neolithic Greeks, Krepost sample from Bulgaria. Also others in Italy, especially Bronze Age+, have this type of ancestry. Hungarians, at least the limited samples that we have on Global 25, usually don't score it, but there is one person who gets 25% of it. It could also be an overfit, as Tepecik is usually not used with basic components....

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Interesting. Stears scores traces of it in his original model made by Davidski.

Stears_scaled

49.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
37.6 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.0 WHG
2.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
1.8 Han

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Originally Posted by Chris596

Yes, but I barely have any detectable Germanic, on most calculators I don't get any Germanic at all. If I have some, it might come from my mother. I tend to get lots of West Asian and South European which is unusual for a Hungarian. See my signature this is what I get on G25 Myheritage and in other G25 calculators I always get some Anatolian or lots of Caucasian (10-20%).

See what I get on some calculators:

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Nurzat K12:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 1.9096% / 0.01909608
52.0 Eastern_European
26.4 Southern_European
17.8 Caucasian
2.0 East_Asian
1.6 Near_Eastern
0.2 Siberian

Davidski G25 model:

Target: Chris_scaled
Distance: 3.9207% / 0.03920668
41.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
39.4 Anatolia_Barcin_N
9.8 WHG
7.6 Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
2.0 Han

I suspect that I may have had some assimilated Armenian ancestors on my father's side, or idk, why would I get so much West-Asian as a Hungarian otherwise?

In the G25 model which I got from Davidski, I have 7.6% Anatolia_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N . I've seen Turkish, Azeri and other West Asian members getting the most of this, so I think this is a West Asian component. And it's almost identical to the amount I get on DNA.land. So I don't know. Maybe I'm right.

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Tepecik seems to be an eastern shifted neolithic farmer due natufian admixture, i highly recommend to only use Barcin N for calculating EEF admixture.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Yes, that person is haplogroup N also.

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Do you happen to know which subclade? I have a relative (Székely) who's N-L1034.

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Originally Posted by Kökény

Do you happen to know which subclade? I have a relative (Székely) who's N-L1034.

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N-PH1896.

There are another Hungarian and Turk with same subclade on yfull:

https://www.yfull.com/tree/N-PH1896/