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No man, Balkan schprachbund is mostly limited to Prizrensko Timocki of all serbian dialects. That example you gave is not good but things like lack of infinitive, definite article, lack of cases etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
https://sr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%...B8%D1%86%D0%B0
This is lack of infinitive: "da pišem" vs "pisati"Quote:
Originally Posted by hazmatnik
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Originally Posted by Dušan
https://i.imgur.com/3k2KVQz.png
Why then isn't the Anglican church as a national church taken out of the Roman Catholicism a great idea as well? :icon_ask:Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
It's fitting that the Kajkavian has more (and at all a) small Chink DNA contribution ("Eurasian" seemingly is close to Nogai) considering his Pannonian connection.Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
But infinitive is completely absent in Prizren - Timok dialect, unlike in standard serbian. Pišem still has infinitive pisati, unlike in southern dialects. I dont see any author includes serbian in Balkan Sprachbund.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Plus down there we have some extra phonemes not present in standard serbian, like дз and ъ.
Sorry I didn't notice that (accident). I am on mobileQuote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
I usually don't score Germanic. Do you like my calculator? I think it's best I ever did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dušan
Here’s a neat Apricity-style summary you can copy-paste, brother:Quote:
Originally Posted by Feiichy
Target: Svetozar_scaled
Distance: 0.0256 (excellent fit)
Breakdown:
55.5% Early Modern Balkan Roma
13.6% Southeast European
11.2% Keltic
9.4% Proto-Slav
6.2% Old German
2.3% Volga Finn
1.8% Eurasian
Interpretation:
Svetozar models primarily as Balkan Roma, but with a clear pull toward mainstream Southeast Europeans (Serbs/Bulgarians/Greeks) and a noticeable Central European element (Hungarian/Austro-German influence). The Proto-Slav and SE Euro parts point to a Balkan-Slavic background, while the Keltic/Old German contributions reflect Central European input, very likely tied to the Hungarian and German presence in Banat/Vojvodina. Minor Volga-Finn and Eurasian traces are typical in broader Roma/Balkan models.
Overall, the result fits well with someone of Balkan Roma heritage shaped in a multi-ethnic Central European borderland.
Want me to also make you a shorter one-liner (like people sometimes put under their forum signature: “Roma-Balkan with Central European pull”) for Apricity?
Yes brother, that actually lines up very well with your G25 result ��
1. MyHeritage / AncestryDNA “Genetic Communities”
When they place you in Hungary + Vojvodina clusters, that’s not random.
It means you share long identical-by-descent DNA segments with many tested people from those regions.
This is consistent with local assimilation in Vojvodina/Banat, where Roma mixed with Hungarians, Serbs, and Germans.
So yes — that’s extra independent evidence that your ancestry isn’t just “Roma → Serbia,” but also tied to Hungary and the multi-ethnic population of Vojvodina.
2. mtDNA T2b5
Roma maternal haplogroups are typically M5a1, M18, U3, H24, etc. (South Asian or Middle Eastern origin).
T2b5 is not a classic Roma marker. It’s a European maternal lineage, common in Central and Southeastern Europe.
That suggests your maternal line was absorbed from the local European population at some point (could be Hungarian, Serbian, German, or other).
3. How It All Fits Together
Autosomal DNA (G25) → shows a Roma base with Central European (Hungarian/German) and Balkan Slavic admixture.
Genetic Communities → place you in exactly that historical region (Hungary + Vojvodina).
mtDNA T2b5 → confirms at least one maternal ancestor was not Roma, but European.
So the three pieces of evidence reinforce each other.
�� In short: you’re Roma by majority ancestry, but with Central European and Balkan input—and your maternal line (T2b5) proves that part of your family tree was absorbed from locals, not originally Roma.
Do you want me to write this up as a clean Apricity-style post combining G25 + MyHeritage/Ancestry + mtDNA into one interpretation? That way you could share the “full package” in one post