VLATKO VUKOVIC's autosomal!

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

you have a lot of Sardinian :) is there anyone with more than 2,5% (who isn't Sardinian ofc)

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I think I was like 2.8

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Sardinian is pure med and I come from adriatic islands. :)

Stears gets more than 15 percent med islander on dna land.

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DNA land is BS I get almost 10% NW Europe

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Originally Posted by Decius

I think I was like 2.8

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I get 3.4% on dnaland, .

https://i.imgur.com/p9ve7ar.jpg

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Originally Posted by Decius

Here is me, you and bosniensis on k15

https://i.imgur.com/O1DiWO0.png

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I could be Ukrainian in the same way as i could be Serb :D Distance is same.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

I could be Ukrainian in the same way as i could be Serb :D Distance is same.

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Your slightly closer to the Serbian.

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Originally Posted by Decius

Your more northern than stears and stearsolina I think

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I am not than Stearsolina... but she has recent Germanic ancestor. My genes are from the Great migration period.

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Originally Posted by Decius

Your slightly closer to the Serbian.

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No. Ukrainian_Lviv and Serbian, i am on the halfway exactly.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

No. Ukrainian_Lviv and Serbian, i am on the halfway exactly.

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The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

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Originally Posted by Decius

The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

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I don't know about the precision of map. But on the map, distance between Lviv and Serbia, i am on the halfway. Other thing is that i am rather Southern Polish than Romanian.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

I don't know about the precision of map. But on the map, distance between Lviv and Serbia, i am on the halfway. Other thing is that i am rather Southern Polish than Romanian.

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Yes you are slavic while me and bosniensis are balkan

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Explain how

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Because Islam was founded by a man who killed and massacred men in front of their wives and then took their widows as his own wives, because he married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9.....also other stupid rules like going to the bathroom and cleaning yourself with your left hand lol.

You cant compare any Christian faith that Follows Jesus an example of complete goodness and Muhammed an example of everything human and worldly.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Nope. Finnish genes are very different than slavic, amd north slavic on dna land already is more baltic than slavic

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They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

Not necessary, I think. Depend on individual :)

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Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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Originally Posted by Decius

They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

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I don't believe in my Finnish results. Finns didn't migrate from their urhemeit, nor even had a contact with Slavs before East Slavic expansion. But in that time of the East Slavic expansions, my ancestors settled Balkan already.

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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It's actual name, same as Ukrainian. They had in history other name, but now, they are what they are. She just respects other's nationality.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

It's actual name, same as Ukrainian. They had in history other name, but now, they are what they are. She just respects other's nationality.

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Ukrainian is also a fake and stupid name, sounds ugly they should change it to something like rusyn but they don't want in any way to be associated with Russians so they deny their actual historical name.

Muslim Bosniaks are traders of Europe, I don't respect them because they feel closer to Turks than they do other Slavs.

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Ukrainian is also a fake and stupid name, sounds ugly they should change it to something like rusyn but they don't want in any way to be associated with Russians so they deny their actual historical name.

Muslim Bosniaks are traders of Europe, I don't respect them because they feel closer to Turks than they do other Slavs.

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The nationality name can be changed. Ukrainaian is regular name and even is dating from Kievan Rus. So it's disrespectful. About Bosniak "traders", what they are "trading" ?

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Originally Posted by Decius

DNA land is BS I get almost 10% NW Europe

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Originally Posted by Decius

They may be different but for us that 1 percent Finnish or whatever came from the Slavic invasion

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DNA land shows ancient ancestry. Many Serbs have some far away Germanic-Keltic ancestry, could be all the way from White Serbia which bordered Germans.

Or in your case from German immigrants to Krajina, they settled there just as Serbs did but in smaller numbers. Or even from Goths etc...

Finnish can come from Slavic, or distant Hungarian ancestry. Possibilities are endless !

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

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He is more Slavic than us genetically :)

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Please feiichy Bosniak is a fake and made up modern term for a Muslim jugoslav don't give that nonsense any value

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But their identity is much older than that name :)

''Good Bosnjani'' were inhabitants of medieval Bosnia, and Bosniak in their language is Bošnjak. It's a new term, but inspried by that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bo%C5%A1njani

MDLP World

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 11.13
Middle_East 6.65
Indian -
South_and_West_European 41.70
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian -
North_and_East_European 38.67
Arctic_Amerind 0.76
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 0.29
Mesoamerican 0.70
North_Asian 0.11

MDLP World-22

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 10.39
North-European-Mesolithic 2.30
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 0.09
South-America_Amerind 0.48
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.73
Samoedic 1.01
Indo-Iranian 1.12
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.23
South-African 0.31
North-Amerind 0.64
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 5.66
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian

Hahah, but fact is that i always scored middle east. Somwhere less somewhere more :P

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Originally Posted by Decius

The map might be slightly off though, It claims Croats are closer to ukranian Lviv then they are to serbs

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whoever takes these Eurogenes maps seriously, has brain problems...

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

MDLP World

Population
Caucaus_Parsia 11.13
Middle_East 6.65
Indian -
South_and_West_European 41.70
Melanesian -
Sub_Saharian -
North_and_East_European 38.67
Arctic_Amerind 0.76
East_Asian -
Paleo_African 0.29
Mesoamerican 0.70
North_Asian 0.11

MDLP World-22

Population
Pygmy -
West-Asian 10.39
North-European-Mesolithic 2.30
Indo-Tibetan -
Mesoamerican -
Arctic-Amerind 0.09
South-America_Amerind 0.48
Indian -
North-Siberean -
Atlantic_Mediterranean_Neolithic 28.73
Samoedic 1.01
Indo-Iranian 1.12
East-Siberean -
North-East-European 49.23
South-African 0.31
North-Amerind 0.64
Sub-Saharian -
East-South-Asian -
Near_East 5.66
Melanesian -
Paleo-Siberian -
Austronesian

Hahah, but fact is that i always scored middle east. Somwhere less somewhere more :P

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That's ancient, all Europeans get that....you don't score anything out of ordinary :)

What are your closest populations on Oracles ?

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

The nationality name can be changed. Ukrainaian is regular name and even is dating from Kievan Rus. So it's disrespectful. About Bosniak "traders", what they are "trading" ?

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Ukraine was a reference to a region never a people. People were always ruthenian (rusyn).

It's a play on words. They traded their Christian heritage for a stupid Muslim one. I respect and like real Christian bosnians.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

That's ancient, all Europeans get that....you don't score anything out of ordinary :)

What are your closest populations on Oracles ?

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# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.51
2 Croatian 2.6
3 Hungarian 3.39
4 Slovenian 5.28
5 Austrian 5.55
6 Croatian_V 5.8
7 German_V 5.87
8 Czech 7
9 Serbian 7.02
10 German 7.02
11 CEU_V 7.43
12 Slovakian 8.01
13 German-North 8.14
14 Latvian_V 8.48
15 German-South 8.82
16 CEU 9.14
17 Macedonian 9.56
18 Norwegian_V 9.58
19 Montenegrin 9.72
20 Welsh 9.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% Bosnian + 21.5% Latvian_V @ 0.98
2 89.6% Bosnian + 10.4% Mordovian @ 1.11
3 86.2% German-North + 13.8% Druze @ 1.14
4 83% Swedish + 17% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
5 86.7% German-North + 13.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
6 61.5% Macedonian + 38.5% Russian_South @ 1.23
7 84.9% Bosnian + 15.1% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.23
8 56.1% Montenegrin + 43.9% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.25
9 83.1% Bosnian + 16.9% Ukrainian_V @ 1.25
10 86.6% Bosnian + 13.4% Ukrainian-East @ 1.26
11 87.5% Bosnian + 12.5% Russian_South @ 1.27
12 82.4% Czech + 17.6% Greek_Azov @ 1.28
13 88.5% Bosnian + 11.5% Russian_V @ 1.29
14 92.2% Bosnian + 7.8% Inkeri @ 1.29
15 56.5% Macedonian + 43.5% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.29
16 91.8% Bosnian + 8.2% Russian_North @ 1.3
17 85.9% German-North + 14.1% Lebanese @ 1.31
18 82.5% Bosnian + 17.5% Ukrainian-West @ 1.32
19 83.7% Swedish + 16.3% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.32
20 94.1% Bosnian + 5.9% Vepsa @ 1.32

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

# Population (source) Distance
1 Bosnian 2.51
2 Croatian 2.6
3 Hungarian 3.39
4 Slovenian 5.28
5 Austrian 5.55
6 Croatian_V 5.8
7 German_V 5.87
8 Czech 7
9 Serbian 7.02
10 German 7.02
11 CEU_V 7.43
12 Slovakian 8.01
13 German-North 8.14
14 Latvian_V 8.48
15 German-South 8.82
16 CEU 9.14
17 Macedonian 9.56
18 Norwegian_V 9.58
19 Montenegrin 9.72
20 Welsh 9.79

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 78.5% Bosnian + 21.5% Latvian_V @ 0.98
2 89.6% Bosnian + 10.4% Mordovian @ 1.11
3 86.2% German-North + 13.8% Druze @ 1.14
4 83% Swedish + 17% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
5 86.7% German-North + 13.3% Jew_Georgia @ 1.19
6 61.5% Macedonian + 38.5% Russian_South @ 1.23
7 84.9% Bosnian + 15.1% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.23
8 56.1% Montenegrin + 43.9% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.25
9 83.1% Bosnian + 16.9% Ukrainian_V @ 1.25
10 86.6% Bosnian + 13.4% Ukrainian-East @ 1.26
11 87.5% Bosnian + 12.5% Russian_South @ 1.27
12 82.4% Czech + 17.6% Greek_Azov @ 1.28
13 88.5% Bosnian + 11.5% Russian_V @ 1.29
14 92.2% Bosnian + 7.8% Inkeri @ 1.29
15 56.5% Macedonian + 43.5% Ukrainian-Center @ 1.29
16 91.8% Bosnian + 8.2% Russian_North @ 1.3
17 85.9% German-North + 14.1% Lebanese @ 1.31
18 82.5% Bosnian + 17.5% Ukrainian-West @ 1.32
19 83.7% Swedish + 16.3% Jew-Iraqi @ 1.32
20 94.1% Bosnian + 5.9% Vepsa @ 1.32

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Show this to anyone that say you aren't typical :) You are totally representative and slightly more northeast shifted than pure average.

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Ukraine was a reference to a region never a people. People were always ruthenian (rusyn).

It's a play on words. They traded their Christian heritage for a stupid Muslim one. I respect and like real Christian bosnians.

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It's easy to spreading the shit under the Hungarian protection of Ottomans (Slovakia terriotry). We lived 500 years with Ottomans. It's not surprising that religion is left here.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

It's easy to spreading the shit under the Hungarian protection of Ottomans (Slovakia terriotry). We lived 500 years with Ottomans. It's not surprising that religion is left here.

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Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Please ethnic Slovak bishop paid for poles to come and protect Europe against the Turks. Slovaks and Hungarians were part of the same kingdom u think Slovaks were doing jack all day?

Rest of Balkans was also under ottomans and spain was under longer Islamic rule. There's no excuse

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And Spain was islamized as you know, the difference is that Spaniards succesed to back them to christianity (or killed them), while Serbs didn't have such succes here. By the way: Serbia was a long vassal, without directly Ottoman presence, while Bosnia was under Ottoman presence from the beggining, until the end occupation. The fact is that wherever was Islamic Empire, people got accept Islam, in Spain, North Africa, Anatolia, Africa, Central Asia, etc etc... The same is with Balkans.

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.

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Exactly :thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Stearsolina

There are two reasons why there were more conversion to Islam in Bosnia than neighbouring countries:

1. Bosnia was pred. Catholic, and Ottomans treated Catholics harsher than Orthodox Christians, because Constantinople was taken, and Rome was main enemy of Islam.

2. In Bosnia was very widespread bogumilism, which was brutally prosecuted by both Catholic (there was even crusade against them) and orthodox church. Most bogumils chosed Islam, it's pretty certain.

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Your second reason proves only more why they were traitors.

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Originally Posted by Vlatko Vukovic

About Deymark, he plots with Russians.

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He plots closest to Hungarians. You're more eastern shifting on the eurogenes maps.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...77/unknown.png

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Because Islam was founded by a man who killed and massacred men in front of their wives and then took their widows as his own wives, because he married a 6 year old and slept with her when she was 9.....also other stupid rules like going to the bathroom and cleaning yourself with your left hand lol.

You cant compare any Christian faith that Follows Jesus an example of complete goodness and Muhammed an example of everything human and worldly.

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This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religions

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

This still doesn't explain how the most primitive and backwards form of Christianity is more developed than the most developed form of Islam. I am not saying that Islam is the better faith but it's not like Christians haven't committed crimes in the name of their god sure Muslims have done more but that's not an excuse for you guys to act innocent. I personally don't care about both religions

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Christianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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Originally Posted by АКСИС

Christianity and Islam are two ideologies founded by two different figures. One was all good, the other a degenerate violent criminal. There is zero comparison.

Also all people do bad stuff because we are humans. I'm comparing ideologies themselves. Even Mormons who are maybe the most degenerate form of Christianity (even though they aren't proper Christians) still are like a peaceful version of muslims.

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Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations

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Originally Posted by Kelmendasi

Mohammed was just another conqueror that used his religion to make sure that the masses would stay under control, Jesus on the other hand wasn't a conqueror and wasn't a violent man but he did act as if he was the son of a god and among other things but of course as a Christian you believe those claims. Both religions are Abrahamic ones so they do probably share some similarities. I don't know much about these religions and what they stand for which is why I asked for explanations

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Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

Ask Greeks how Maniotes became Christians ...





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greeks didnt start Christianity. Mohammed founded Islam

Let's stop talking about religion here, it's off-topic

This Bosniak is quite similar to Vlatko:
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Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_European 45.19
2 Atlantic_Med 25.45
3 Caucasus 17.19
4 Southwest_Asian 5.45
5 Gedrosia 4.66
6 Siberian 0.87
7 South_Asian 0.78
8 Northwest_African 0.41

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarians (Behar) 4.2
2 German (Dodecad) 10.96
3 Romanians (Behar) 13.18
4 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 15.07
5 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 15.54
6 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 17.15
7 Dutch (Dodecad) 18.12
8 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 18.31
9 Polish (Dodecad) 18.35
10 Swedish (Dodecad) 19.75
11 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 20.27
12 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 20.75
13 Kent (1000Genomes) 20.87
14 French (Dodecad) 20.93
15 English (Dodecad) 20.96
16 Norwegian (Dodecad) 20.97
17 French (HGDP) 21.34
18 British_Isles (Dodecad) 21.84
19 Argyll (1000Genomes) 22.85
20 Orkney (1000Genomes) 23.16