I'd like to see Pribislav's results :p
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I'd like to see Pribislav's results :p
An enthusiast from the Bosniak DNA project facebook page made two charts based on known verified and catelogued Y-DNA for Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžak. For Bosnia he made a breakdown of historical regions and listed the Y-DNA results for each of them. In Sandžak the divide was made both by dialect and by each individual municipality. He also made a K15 PCA of Bosniaks from Bosnia and Sandžakians along with a few Pomaks and Torbeshi, with a rather handy addition of ancient samples relevant to the ancestry of modern Balkanites.
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201001/e9cg6abo.jpg
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201002/klm8dn4t.jpg
https://s12.directupload.net/images/201016/ox75whu3.jpg
I'm suprised how northern Bosniaks from BiH cluster is on K15, very much like Croats (but more northern than Dalmatian cluster would be), with only few closer to Serbs.
Those are basically central Europeans mainly.
Highest E-V13 rate in Bosnia happens to be a place called Romanija. E-Vlach confirmed? :lol:Quote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Anegdote: The only autosomal result of a Bosniak from that rigion that I know of plots very close to Serbs, but for some reason raw data gave him an inflated Oceanian/Papuan score. Too bad he deleted or hid his gedmatch kit. Oh, and his Y-DNA is J-M241.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
Probably an Australian at heartQuote:
Originally Posted by CommonSense
Botosani, Edinet and Chisinau are on 23andme v5, while Balti, and 2 Bucuresti (from Behar) are academic samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
I noticed that too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stearsolina
Not South Slavic, but... - https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/1...ure/#more-1069
"My family ancestry is mostly from West part of Ukraine – I was born in village Molodkiv in region called Galicia (Galychyna/Halychyna) near Pokuttya (Pokucie). I trace my genealogy approximately till ~1730 years, and no “official” relations with other countries whatsoever."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pokuttya
https://lundiak.files.wordpress.com/...rs-oracle1.jpg
there was already thread about these results long ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Romanian admix?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
No. They score like typical Carpathian Rusyns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
Carpathian Rusyn genetics is on both sides of the Carpathian Mountains.
Yeah I just found it.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Their admixture proportions are no different than Carpathian Rusyns.
So this type of genetics exists also in areas north of the Carpathians.
do you have their 23andme results?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
I have only what he posted here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
https://lundiak.wordpress.com/2016/1...ure/#more-1069
And GEDmatch Eurogenes results.
Yes. This for those who haven't seen. Meanwhile the guy has deleted his Gedmatch but all the relevant calculators are in that thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
He tested with FTDNA and uploaded to MyHeritage, he hasn't done 23andme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
maybe not recent Romanian ancestry, but Rusyns are Romanian admixed in generalQuote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
This guy is Ukrainian nobody has heard about "Rusyns" north of the Carpathians except for the Polish census of 1931.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
These guys are from Nadwórna County - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nadvirna_Raion
Ethnic composition of Nadwórna County from Polish 1931 census (but division into Ukrainians & Rusyns was artificial):
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...echny_1931.pdf
^^^
See Tabl. 12. Ludność według płci i języka ojczystego (mother tongue):
Total population - 140,702
Polish - 16,907
Ukrainian - 93,039
Rusyn - 19,089
Jewish - 11,020
German - 343
Russian - 30
Czech - 12
Belarusian - 5
Other - 37
Not given - 220
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You can compare with this Ukrainian point of view: https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-in-1939-quot
probably admixed with Hungarians alsoQuote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
yes you are right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
i thought he declares as a Rusyn, i mixed him up with that hawklutz guy who scores similarly to him.
Ukrainians from Ivano Frankivsk and Chernivtsi are Romanian admixed too.
They look just like typical Carpathian Rusyns based on Eurogenes K36.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
I don't think there were ever large numbers of Hungarians in that area.
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This is for the whole Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1931:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tion-pg.22.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...tion-pg.22.jpg
They admixed with Magyars a long time ago. Rusyn = Ukrainian + Romanian + HungarianQuote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Stanyslaviv (Ivano-Frankivsk) Voivodeship, 1921 census:
https://i.imgur.com/aS3wBf8.png
Carpathian Rusyns are mixed Slavo-Balkano-Magyar people geneticallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Is there any Rusyn identity in Ivano-Frankivsk, Ternopil and Lviv Oblasts?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Or is it limited just to Zakarpattia Oblast?
So are Ukrainians in large part.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
I don't think anyone in East Galicia identifies as "Rusyn".
Now nobody in Ukraine does not identify as something else except Ukrainian unfortunately because of Nationalism polticsQuote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
In 1771-74 some Dalmatian Serbs settled in Galicia. There are links about that, but on Serbian.
303 families. For Yugo users.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
https://www.poreklo.rs/2013/02/14/se...rba-drugi-deo/
https://www.benkovac.rs/apendix_single.php?apendix_id=86&dcontent_id=20
It seems what southern admixture is not uniform in Carpathians, and can variate in different areas regardless if is North or South. These are the first results from this area who I saw, and are still the most southern ones, especially knowing what this person originate from a village located 5 km from Polish border, and is the most northern geographically compared to other samples.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Spoiler!
These are his 23andme results:
https://i.imgur.com/RReJJeA.png
And these are the results of his wife, she is from the same area:
https://i.imgur.com/MAunbce.png
God is also Serbian btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Varda
There are also these from my matchesQuote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
3/4 Lviv, 1/4 Ternopil
https://i.ibb.co/vYYmMHg/image.png
1/2 Ternopil, 1/2 Ivano-Frankivsk
https://i.ibb.co/2nYrNZd/image.png
are that results on 5.9?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by Abriekman
No, God is God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
"God is a Serb", is phrase created by Serbian enemies.
Btw in documents from 1771-74 is written that 303 Serbian families from Dalmatia moved in Austrian part of Poland. It's Galicia in present day Ukraine. Galicia had nothing to do with Ukraine 250 years ago.
Leto found a guy from Lviv with 30 Baltic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aspirin
That migration really happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ion Basescul
No need to be ironic.
Did I? I don't remember. Probably part Jewish or something. Unless you're talking about 38-39% Baltic, not literally 30.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
i remember he had less than me, 31 maybe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
And you still think that modern West Ukrainians are the same as Early Slavs?Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio