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Originally Posted by Dick

The default is set at 1.5cm that is why the cms are high. Then all of this is nonsense including gedmatch unless you do a full genomes test if you can afford it

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Yea all these commercial tests are novelty, even Y and M downstream clade tests aren't 100% accurate.

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Originally Posted by Dick

Because most people can’t afford a full genomes test

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So they show wrong, too high values because most people can't afford full genome test? I don't understand such logic maybe for you is ok.

So someone could create website which would show wrong medical predictions, and they excuse would be they do it for people without full genome test?

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

But main thing is all those values are too big. If they would show proper few cM max, nobody would complain. But they must amuse people with extreamly high IBD matches.

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There will always be false segments, but you have to look all this as statistics. Weather forecast can't say exactly where rain drops fall, but it can say that rain is coming. Davidski maybe is now overjoyed because MTA equates Langobards and Goths with ancient Scandinavians. He has always objected it.

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Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

There will always be false segments, but you have to look all this as statistics. Weather forecast can't say exactly where rain drops fall, but it can say that rain is coming. Davidski maybe is now overjoyed because MTA equates Langobards and Goths with ancient Scandinavians. He has always objected it.

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Generally true but in specific MTA case their statistics is based on false assumptions (too low initial treshold caused too high IBD values).

And I wrote also about statistical noise. Some ones believe, even researchers, that the IBD noise level is fixed, around 1-2 cM or something near it. But it is not true. IBD noise depends on the population, the effective population size. In big populations the noise level can be very low, but for example Saamis' IBD noise is around 3-4 cM. Then those centromere fixations make sure exceptions. And some commercial testers delete chromosomal areas to avoid unwanted results following purely their false historical ideas.

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Originally Posted by Lukasz

Generally true but in specific MTA case their statistics is based on false assumptions (too low initial treshold caused too high IBD values).

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My previous message

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Originally Posted by Lemminkäinen

And some commercial testers delete chromosomal areas to avoid unwanted results following purely their false historical ideas.

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About what company you said? 23&me? They have different method of calculating autosomal similarity. Kurd form EurasiaDNA explained it but I don't have link at hand.

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Originally Posted by *****

Maybe the real idiots are those who think that Davidski is some God of genetics or whateva...
I am not saying that they MTA are correct but at least MTA successfully predicted that I am a Macedonian, unlike you who made me a Thessalian or Bulgarian etc.
Funny how you label people as idiots, the same way Davidski does, probably as often as he changes his socks.
Are Poles so uncultured?

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All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

I always wondered why Eastern Europeans care so much about such stuff. I mean, I did a DNA test and all, but it's a pastime to me. Nothing more and not really important.

It seems they have big identity issues there. Look at member Peterski, nigga is complexed as a mixed/mongrel Latino even being 100% European.

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Originally Posted by War Chief

All 3 of these guys are Poles, including founder of MTA xD Maybe that's why PLC fell apart because they fight so much

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Oh interesting, who is MTA founder?:) Tell us.