Because they didn't use proto Slavs, just medieval eastern Euro Slavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MandM
Because they didn't use proto Slavs, just medieval eastern Euro Slavs.Quote:
Originally Posted by MandM
Man don't trust what those Greeks on eupidea say. Some of them threw a tantrum when I and others said that mainland Greeks had 30 to 40 precent slavicQuote:
Originally Posted by MandM
Code:TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA,0.090299667,0.041128917,-0.011282167,-0.03060425,-0.022824583,-0.01203875,0.0052875,-0.00080766667,-0.014913167,-0.000060666667,-0.0027334167,0.0033345,-0.0041253333,-0.00099775,-0.00150425,-0.0033588333,-0.00099958333,0.00097133333,0.0014245833,-0.0011775833,-0.0042528333,0.00045341667,0.00010266667,-0.003404,-0.00099791667
Code:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0116% / 0.01159308 | R2P
55.7 Turkmen
44.3 Greek_Dodecanese_Rhodes
My Central Asia model:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 1.2934% / 0.01293423
41.0 TUR_Kaman-Kalehoyuk_MLBA
23.0 KAZ_Aktogai_MLBA
12.0 IRN_Tepe_Hissar_C
11.8 MNG_Ulaanzuukh_Slab_Grave
7.6 Levant_Megiddo_MLBA
2.4 CHN_Yellow_River_LN
1.8 RUS_Krasnoyarsk_BA
0.4 KEN_Nyarindi_3500BP
This sample is only 16% East Eurasian/Mongoloid.
IMO this map speaks volumes about the fact that merely stating something in a peer-reviewed paper is not sufficient for it to be true or accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Best 2-way modelsQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Best 3-way modelsCode:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0153% / 0.01531842
61.7 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800
38.3 KAZ_Tasmola_IA:AKB001__BC_727
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0156% / 0.01562409
60.2 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800
39.8 CHN_Junmachanyilian_IA1:C1650__BC_470
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0165% / 0.01650487
60.3 TUR_E_Van_Urartian:I19612__BC_800
39.7 Saka_Kazakh_steppe:DA11__BC_628
Samples scoredCode:Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0107% / 0.01071680 | R3P
38.0 ARM_Keti_Anc:I17308__BC_306
31.6 KAZ_Mayemer_IA:MMR001__BC_550
30.4 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20230__BC_615
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0118% / 0.01182312 | R3P
46.6 ARM_Karmir_Blur_Anc:I16119__BC_336
29.9 KAZ_Mayemer_IA:MMR001__BC_550
23.5 BGR_KapitanAndreevo_IA:I20183__BC_800
Target: TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Capalibag_MA
Distance: 0.0120% / 0.01197058 | R3P
37.8 TUR_Aegean_Mugla_Degirmendere_Anc:I20229__BC_615
33.3 ARM_Noratus_EIA:I18468__BC_1100
28.9 KAZ_Korgantas_IA_o1:BDY001__BC_275
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Creoda
It's ancestry that was absorbed over a 1000 years process and not immediately, good part of it is also female mediated and also from a South-Slavic proxy from mingling with them for 1000 years at least.
Albanian territories were occupied by the Bulgarians and then by Serbs and they were settled by them. Anatolians got absorbed into the natives during Roman period.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
So Albanians no Thracian and other Balkan people no IA Illyrian ? This model is completely nonsense. Thracian and IA/BA Greece somewhat plot close to IA Anatolia if you are unaware
Why on earth would someone only use IA/BA Albania to model Albanians with or only use IA/BA Greece to model Greeks with , jesus fucking christ , made by these low iq digit retarded serbs
Target: Albanian
Distance: 0.7593% / 0.00759303
63.2 BalkanIA
25.0 East_Europe
11.8 Anatolia_Roman
^ This is what I get for myself when using Thracian IA / Macedonia IA +BA /IA Albania + Slavic + Anatolian , not sure how accurate my model is but certainly seems better than that one . I used all individual samples and not averages btw. We don't have samples from IA / Roman Dardania except for that one in Nish or IA Albania. Maybe Roman samples are the best to use + Slavic .
Source:
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East_Europe:HRV_Gornji:I35014__AD_1100__Cov_27.02%,0.133173,0.137096,0.05506,0.058463,0.048009,0.017012,0.0047,0.020076,0.000818,-0.021868,-0.006008,-0.003447,0.015312,0.01913,-0.022258,-0.009944,-0.005737,0.011782,-0.000377,-0.003877,0.003993,-0.000989,0.008504,-0.006386,-0.002754
East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I4803__AD_820__Cov_67.13%,0.127482,0.141159,0.067505,0.055879,0.041238,0.019243,0.005875,0.01223,0.001023,-0.009476,-0.004222,-0.007194,0.011298,0.016377,-0.009093,0.005569,0.01017,-0.004814,0.002891,0.005253,-0.009608,-0.001731,0.001972,-0.010845,0.001078
East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I12991__AD_817__Cov_63.63%,0.138864,0.122879,0.07203,0.069445,0.045855,0.020917,0.009165,0.018461,-0.000614,-0.024602,-0.005196,-0.012289,0.026313,0.01913,-0.019001,0.015911,0.026077,-0.003547,0,0.010755,-0.001497,-0.002226,0.006286,-0.007953,0.000239
East_Europe:SVK_EMA:I13458__AD_843__Cov_70.89%,0.118376,0.114755,0.059208,0.04845,0.028313,0.011713,0.003525,0.015461,-0.00409,-0.023508,0.00341,-0.007943,0.017393,0.017616,-0.012622,0.004243,0.009257,0.00038,0.001508,-0.007253,-0.001622,-0.003462,0.002711,-0.003856,-0.005269
East_Europe:HRV_Brekinjova:I26748__AD_838__Cov_73.30%,0.121791,0.133034,0.067127,0.052649,0.040315,0.025379,0.00517,0.013846,0.001432,-0.02442,0.003085,-0.01094,0.011744,0.024084,-0.005565,-0.017634,-0.010691,-0.006714,0.007165,0.003252,-0.008235,-0.005193,0.012941,-0.002771,0.006107
East_Europe:Czech_Medieval:I20515,0.124067,0.132019,0.06675,0.08075,0.046778,0.031794,0.009165,0.010846,0.002863,-0.031162,-0.003735,-0.015286,0.019177,0.018029,-0.017372,-0.00716,0.004303,0.000633,-0.006913,0.004752,-0.010232,0.002226,0.005793,-0.003012,0.002275
East_Europe:HUN_Avar_Szolad_Av2,0.134311,0.126941,0.081458,0.065569,0.035391,0.033746,0.00987,0.005769,0.004704,-0.02278,-0.002436,-0.005395,0.01219,0.020643,-0.015201,-0.003845,0.005867,0.004561,0.008673,5e-04,0.001497,-0.00272,0.013804,-0.007109,0.002634
Roman era Serbia and Croatia include IA Illyrian and IA Thracian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vk000