FTDNA - MyOrigins update

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Originally Posted by Dema

I think j2b2 was at least Pelasgian, Illyrian, Thracian, Hellenic, Roman.

It is very nicely spread thru area and it has nice TMRCA. Also Italy and Greece are rich in it so everything falls into its place.

Its strange tho Vinca and Starcevo are already tested but we yet cant test Illyrian samples. Also Ancient Greeks are not tested as far as i know.

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Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

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Originally Posted by Embryo

Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

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Nah lol. I think E-V13 would be very common among Illyrians (there is a great diversity within this HG in our areas), probably more northern ones. I see J2b2 and R1b's in the Balkans as more south central, perhaps associated with Dardanians, southern Illyrians, Thracian, Ancient Macedonians. Of course this is just a speculation in our part until we get some ancient DNA from the time periods in question.

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Originally Posted by Trojet

Nah, I think E-V13 would be very common among Illyrians (there is a great diversity within this HG in our areas), probably more northern ones. I see J2b2 and some R1b's in the Balkans as more south central, perhaps associated with Dardanians, southern Illyrians, Thracian, Ancient Macedonians. Of course this is just a speculation in our part until we get some ancient DNA from the time periods in question.

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All I want to know regarding haplogroups is what Illyrians, Hellenes and Thracians belonged to and what haplogroup Skanderbeg belonged to :D

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Originally Posted by Embryo

Hopefully we get Illyrian and Hellenic samples soon, I suspect them to be R1b or J2b

EV13 came with pirate ships from zoomalia so I think its not a worthy contender

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I suspect both Illyrians and Hellas to be E-v13, j2b2 and R1b. Perhaps that is reason why there is no their results yet.
E-v13 once come from Zoomalia but we civilized them and with time they got whiter :)

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.

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Originally Posted by Dema

I suspect both Illyrians and Hellas to be E-v13, j2b2 and R1b. Perhaps that is reason why there is no their results yet.
E-v13 once come from Zoomalia but we civilized them and with time they got whiter :)

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.

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I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC

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Originally Posted by Dema

I will try to arrange some cooperation with Foleja crew and Albo government if there is possibility of testing ancient DNA :) I am curious to know how much that process costs and what kind of sample is needed.

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Originally Posted by Embryo

I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC

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The biggest problem with this is that there is no laboratory that does ancient DNA analysis as a fee-for-service to my knowledge (I have asked before). This is usually done by western academia, universities and such.
If you ask someone from back home, they would be like what's Y-DNA, lol...

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Originally Posted by Embryo

and what haplogroup Skanderbeg belonged to :D

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Actually my friend is Arbanas from Zadar and Arbanasi say for themselves that they belong to house of Kastrioti, therefore same clan as Skenderbeg.
To be more interesting his surname is Gjergja and i found him on the list where Croatian Catholic priests written them as they were arriving. Also free land was given to them.

I will have meeting with him soon and try to talk him into a testing. Sounds really interesting for sure, but i dont know how much chance is there that he is same paternal line as Skenderbeu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_people

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Originally Posted by Embryo

I think the biggest problem is if we even have any samples that are testable, thats the biggest problem IIRC

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it is the biggest problem.

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Originally Posted by Dema

Actually my friend is Arbanas from Zadar and Arbanasi say for themselves that they belong to house of Kastrioti, therefore same clan as Skenderbeg.
To be more interesting his surname is Gjergja and i found him on the list where Croatian Catholic priests written them as they were arriving. Also free land was given to them.

I will have meeting with him soon and try to talk him into a testing. Sounds really interesting for sure, but i dont know how much chance is there that he is same paternal line as Skenderbeu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arbanasi_people

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Kastrioti were from around Dibra area, so most likely J2b2/R1b/EV13 indeed.

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