Poland-Germany border, most interesting thing ever

Procopius, History of the Wars, III, xxii, 13-16:

"(...) Now as for those Vandals who remained in their native land [Poland?], neither remembrance nor any name of them has been preserved to my time. (...) they were either overpowered by the neighbouring barbarians or they were mingled with them not at all unwillingly and their name gave way to that of their conquerors. Indeed, when the Vandals were conquered at that time by Belisarius, no thought occurred to them to go from there to their ancestral homes. For they were not able to convey themselves suddenly from Libya to Europe, especially as they had no ships at hand, but paid the penalty [2] there for all the wrongs they had done the Romans and especially the Zacynthians. (...)"

[2] In Arcana, 18, 5 ff., Procopius estimates the number of the Vandals in Africa, at the time of Belisarius, at 80,000 males, and intimates that practically all perished.

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Originally Posted by Token

Thanks for the kindness. So, going by the graphics that you posted, is it secure to assume that modern Polish population have around 10-15% Wielbark-like ancestry?

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I guess so.

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Originally Posted by Peterski

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I guess so.

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It would be interesting to do the same thing in old Gothic settlements like Northern Italy, Spain and Septimania.

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Originally Posted by Token

Thanks for the kindness. So, going by the graphics that you posted, is it secure to assume that modern Polish population have around 10-15% Wielbark-like ancestry?

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Eee... much more interesting would be, how many Wielbarkers live today...

https://youtu.be/gaN1B7vkFOk

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Originally Posted by Rethel

Eee... much more interesting would be, how many Wielbarkers live today...

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In what sense? I don't think it's possible to find a predominantly Wielbark-erish individual autossomally-wise.

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Originally Posted by Token

In what sense?

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In normal - in what else?
They didn;t die out - it would be very hard for
them to do it, if they participated 15% in genotype.

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I don't think it's possible to find a predominantly Wielbark-erish individual autossomally-wise.

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:picard2:

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Originally Posted by Rethel

In normal - in what else?
They didn;t die out - it would be very hard for
them to do it, if they participated 15% in genotype.
:picard2:

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They didn't died, they were completely assimilated by other populations like the West Slavs in Poland. :picard1:

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Originally Posted by Token

They didn't died, they were completely assimilated by other populations like the West Slavs in Poland. :picard1:

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So logically, they are still here, aren't they?
The only problem is, to identify them and count.

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Originally Posted by Rethel

So logically, they are still here, aren't they?
The only problem is, to identify them and count.

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The genetic legacy is still there, obviously, but i doubt that there's someone or a isolated group thay is predominantly Wielberkarish. Like i said, they were assimilated and even completely subjugated by other population, this is why the East Germanic languages died.

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Originally Posted by Token

The genetic legacy is still there, obviously, but i doubt that there's someone or a isolated group thay is predominantly Wielberkarish.

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:picard2:

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Like i said, they were assimilated and even completely subjugated by other population, this is why the East Germanic languages died.

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So you yourself claim they did not die out.
If I will subjugate you, and cut off your tounge - will you stop to be yourself? :picard2: