DNA test results of Chris596

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

I don't understand why people attack MH for being trash but defend 23andMe. Both are using modern populations as a reference, what makes one trash and the other is decent? Both are incapable of showing you a decent result. I even think that MH is better because they cover your small amount of admixtures while 23andMe assign this percentage to major components randomly. Maybe the recent ancestor region feature looks good, but it is far from being accurate and it is a matter of luck if they collected the required samples from this region or not.

I personally think the most logical thing in Eastern Europe buying MH considering price/accuracy ratio and wouldn't recommend anyone from this region to buy 23andme if s/he is not want to learn mt-DNA.

The service 23andme provided in Europe is another part of the story. They lost my kit 2 times and it had been 5 months until I get my results, Chris lived the same experience too. It shouldn't be a coincidence.

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My results on 23andme suck, just to illustrate that. I get 47% eastern European (Slovenia), which would make me non-Croat in majority since Croatia is part of Balkan on 23andme. Their Balkan and east euro groups suck as well. No logic in them.

23andme is very overrated, and their shipping cost for eastern Europe is simply unbelievably high, as if they send kits to war zone and it justify such high price, lmao.

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Originally Posted by Chris596

I can understand the Hungarian part. Most of them were probably also Balkanic. But my father lied about his Székely ancestry??

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No he did not lie.

You are a southern shifted Hungarian, your are within the Hungarian range of results (just ask forum member Imre, his Hungarian side results look much like yours). It happens to be that your Szekely and also your Hungarian from Hungary side lack German admix. All your known ancestors are Hungarians, so this is a Hungarian DNA result. It really is not a surprise for a Szekely/Alfold result.

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Originally Posted by vbnetkhio

in 23andme people of the same ethnicity get similar results, while in myheritage it's all over the place. Among Balkanians East Euro, Balkan and Greek can vary a lot and i've seen Serbs get random Finnish, Scandinavian and Arabic.

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Well if the result is not accurate it doesn't matter everyone gets a similar result. On the other hand, I don't think this is the case. Imagine a Serb gets 40% Eastern Euro yet his Balkan part balanced with Greek, not Serb. On the other hand, a Serb gets 20% Eastern Euro because his Balkan part balanced with Bulgarian, Montenegrin etc.. Both have identical results in Gedmatch. So, what caused such a difference in 23andMe? They use IBD after algorithm finds a population to fulfill your breakdown then assigning you regions according to IBD results. Instead, they should measure your relativity before assigning you a component.

This is the problem.

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

My results on 23andme suck, just to illustrate that. I get 47% eastern European (Slovenia), which would make me non-Croat in majority since Croatia is part of Balkan on 23andme. Their Balkan and east euro groups suck as well. No logic in them.

23andme is very overrated, and their shipping cost for eastern Europe is simply unbelievably high, as if they send kits to war zone and it justify such high price, lmao.

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Imagine what I thought after see my own result :D

With all of my seriousness, I can prepare a better algorithm for everyone if I had their dataset. This actually applies to all companies.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

By the way, his result expected and typical for half Szekely and half Alföld. Imagine, Hungarians are close to the Croats and Szekely is identical with Romanians. A mix of Croat + Romanian would give you a Serb. Apparently Alföld + Szekely has similar output.

I don't know if anyone realized or not but he has 3% EE in PuntDNAL K13.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 40.42
2 SW_Europe 33.96
3 West_Asia 15.55
4 SW_Asia 5.57
5 NE_Asia 1.84
6 South_Africa 1.34
7 SE_Asia 1.12
8 Oceania 0.18
9 East_Africa 0.03

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The more interesting thing is how different calculators consistently prefer East Asian instead of Siberian. For me it's always a mix of the two.

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Originally Posted by CommonSense

A certain Svetozar from Austria, perhaps?

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Mortimer's father is Serb from Banat in Pannonian plain, so there is great possibility of some connections with Chris ancestors.

Chris, congratulations on your results. You should be proud. :)

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Originally Posted by Est.1992

I get 47% eastern European (Slovenia)

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you should just view those two as separate.

47% East Euro - you have 47% Baltic like admixture (after filtering)
Slovenia - you have some matches with all 4 grandparents from Slovenia.

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Originally Posted by IrisSelene

Right,... And they're having an upgrade so I'm excited. But idk if I should leave my account with the 23andme raw data or get another my heritage kit with their own raw dna.

Maybe that would make a big difference.

Enviado desde mi CLT-L09 mediante Tapatalk

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Do you not use the converted V3 data from Lemgrant? I still have that kit on my other account.

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Originally Posted by Ion Basescul

The more interesting thing is how different calculators consistently prefer East Asian instead of Siberian. For me it's always a mix of the two.

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I usually have huge Siberian and a slight amount of East Asia, the ratio is like 7:1. Anatolian Turks get like half-half like you.

I wonder what causes this variety.

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Originally Posted by Kaspias

By the way, his result expected and typical for half Szekely and half Alföld. Imagine, Hungarians are close to the Croats and Szekely is identical with Romanians. A mix of Croat + Romanian would give you a Serb. Apparently Alföld + Szekely has similar output.

I don't know if anyone realized or not but he has 3% EE in PuntDNAL K13.

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 NE_Europe 40.42
2 SW_Europe 33.96
3 West_Asia 15.55
4 SW_Asia 5.57
5 NE_Asia 1.84
6 South_Africa 1.34
7 SE_Asia 1.12
8 Oceania 0.18
9 East_Africa 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Serbian 3.79
2 Bosnian 3.99
3 Croatian 4.92
4 Moldavian 6.11
5 Montenegrin 6.14
6 Hungarian 6.95
7 Romanian 7.66
8 Slovene 7.67
9 German_South 8.05
10 Macedonian 8.39
11 Bulgarian 8.77
12 French 9.01
13 Slovak 9.18
14 Belgian 9.29
15 English 9.79
16 Scottish 10.49
17 Orcadian 11.1
18 Irish 11.38
19 Utahn_European 11.81
20 German_North 12.47

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.2% English + 20.8% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.53
2 77.7% English + 22.3% Turkish @ 2.55
3 80.7% English + 19.3% Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 2.61
4 75.3% Orcadian + 24.7% Turkish @ 2.64
5 76.9% Orcadian + 23.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.67
6 74.9% Irish + 25.1% Turkish @ 2.68
7 77.1% English + 22.9% Turkish_Aydin @ 2.69
8 76.5% Irish + 23.5% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.71
9 77.8% Belgian + 22.2% Kumyk @ 2.73
10 76.5% Scottish + 23.5% Turkish @ 2.79
11 78.1% Scottish + 21.9% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.84
12 88.9% Croatian + 11.1% Nogay @ 2.84
13 75.8% Utahn_European + 24.2% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.85
14 74.2% Utahn_European + 25.8% Turkish @ 2.88
15 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Lahu @ 2.89
16 81% Belgian + 19% Dagestan_Azeri @ 2.89
17 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Miaozu @ 2.89
18 96.6% Bosnian + 3.4% Vietnamese @ 2.9
19 96.7% Bosnian + 3.3% Dai @ 2.9
20 96.9% Bosnian + 3.1% She @ 2.92

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Punt K13 sucks and assigns too much noise. It exaggerates Mongoloid admixture for sure. On Eu K13, HW and Dod Chris is below 2%.

K13: East_Asian 1.64
K12b: East_Asian 1.44
HW: NE_Asian 1.5

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Originally Posted by Leto

Punt K13 sucks and assigns too much noise. It exaggerates Mongoloid admixture for sure. On Eu K13, HW and Dod Chris is below 2%.

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I don't think it exaggerates for everyone. I have 9.31% in K12b, have 9.1% in Punt K13