Pontic Greek Gedmatch results

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I'm too dumb somebody help my brain cells

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Anyone can use models to suit their own outcomes, which is quite retarded.

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No, a model has to fit statistically. The model above does exactly that. The fit is tight and it corresponds nicely with history. Most of what you and others post here comes straight out of your ass.

Above example show South Slavs are no where near Polish and Ukranian samples so they are Greek shifted as Greek cluster is firmly within the Italian cluster.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Prove me wrong, show some samples. There are plenty of Bulgarians and North Macedonians on Gedmatch and G25, there are specific threads about them here. That data proves me right, though I don't even have an agenda here 'cause I'm not a Balkan Slav, they aren't my people.

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Sorry but the purpose this thread was for was not to be invaded another time by TA Slavs at this time
it would be cool if you simply stop posting here let Greeks amongst each other discuss these matters

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Originally Posted by Coolguy1

No, a model has to fit statistically. The model above does exactly that. The fit is tight and it corresponds nicely with history.

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Corresponds nicely with your view on the world.

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Corresponds nicely with your view on the world.

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I guess the thousands of Slavic placenames in Greece just sprung up out of nowhere?

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Originally Posted by catgeorge

Corresponds nicely with your view on the world.

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Double post

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Originally Posted by brennus dux gallorum

for the record, Mycaeneans weren't even settled in Thessaly and Macedonia, let alone Thrace, meanwhile Peloponnese (part of mainland) has some Kura-Araxes, not significantly lower than the second mycaenean sample.

We need ancient samples from these northern parts of Greece to make a conclusion. On the other hand considering that 3 out of 4 Mycaenean samples have less of this admixture than Kos does, you do realize that Kos has additional native pre-greek admixture that did not exist among ancient mainlanders

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The model isn't perfect so for some reason the Kura-Araxes admixure of I9010 is going into Iran_N and Levant_N instead. Kos are one of the most west Asian shifted out of all Greek islanders so of course them having elevated levels is not weird. I am not claiming that Dodecanese islanders are not shifted in different ways, they are mixed with Anatolians who might have resembled somethng like Cypriots but with less Levantine. Cretans are the ones that most resemble the original admixture (ignoring Calabrians, who could just be most similar through chance) but they also too are shifted with extra Steppe. Truth is, none of this matters, I just feel like some people here are claiming that ancient Greeks are super north shifted when they aren't. Also, the only haplogroups we found from ancient Greeks were J2 and G2, correct? We don't have many samples to go off, but when do you think E-V13 became the dominant haplogroup of mainlander Greeks?

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Originally Posted by SuperDorian

Sorry but the purpose this thread was for was not to be invaded another time by TA Slavs at this time
it would be cool if you simply stop posting here let Greeks amongst each other discuss these matters

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Okay, I agree with you.