Dodecad k12b West, Central & South Asian results Vol. 3

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Originally Posted by Dr_Maul

These are good but this is probably not the place for them, we should probably make a thread for East Asians. I have a couple kits to share as well

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Aye!
Do share their results :)

Turkish family (a lot of Iranian matches, maybe Alevis/Tahtaci?)
The Sub_Saharan maybe points to Southern Yörük origin though?

Code:

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Gedrosian: 16.80
Siberian: 4.13
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.91
Atlantic_Med: 11.54
North_European: 9.22
South_Asian: 3.54
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 9.23
East_Asian: 6.44
Caucasus: 34.50
Sub_Saharan: 2.66

Distance to:        AttilaC
5.73212003        Turk_South
6.26174896        Turk_Anatolia
6.48224498        Turk_Southwest
6.71785680        Turk_Central_West
6.75228110        Yoruk
7.16065639        Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.56091264        Turk_Southeast
7.75316065        Turk_Central_East
7.77286948        Turk_West_BlackSea
8.11355039        Azerbaijani
8.40991677        Turk_Northwest
8.68707661        Azerbaijani_Turkey
9.65709066        Azerbaijani_Iran
12.96318634        Turkmen_Iraq
13.04954788        Iran_Khorasan
13.09357858        Kurd_Kurmanji
13.22121401        Turkmen_Iran
13.52940871        Syrian_B
13.67134960        Turk_East
13.94517838        Zaza
14.12019122        Turkmen
14.30724642        Kurd_Sorani
14.74735570        Talysh_Azerbaijan
14.92848284        Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
15.15426343        Azerbaijani_Dagestan

Target: AttilaC
Distance: 1.9621% / 1.96209435 | ADC: 0.25x
66.6        Turk_Anatolia
16.0        Iran_Khorasan
7.2        Yoruk
4.6        Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.6        Burmanese

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Code:

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Gedrosian: 16.20
Siberian: 5.62
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.08
Atlantic_Med: 11.31
North_European: 9.97
South_Asian: 3.19
East_African: 1.46
Southwest_Asian: 7.33
East_Asian: 6.00
Caucasus: 34.31
Sub_Saharan: 3.55

Distance to:        Att
6.32915476        Yoruk
6.55164102        Turk_Southwest
6.67749204        Turk_South
7.04269835        Turk_Anatolia
7.72799457        Turk_Central_West
7.78436253        Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.01980050        Turk_Northwest
8.13778840        Turk_West_BlackSea
8.95791270        Turk_Central_East
9.33717837        Turk_Southeast
9.79869379        Azerbaijani
10.12755647        Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.22417480        Azerbaijani_Iran
13.26297855        Turkmen_Iran
13.92669379        Iran_Khorasan
14.06153263        Turkmen
14.21286389        Crimean_Tatar_Mountain
14.70630137        Kurd_Kurmanji
14.83320262        Turk_East
14.97762665        Turkmen_Iraq
15.02420048        Karachay
15.22829603        Syrian_B
15.24930162        Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.49080695        Zaza
16.08680204        Talysh_Azerbaijan

Target: Att
Distance: 2.3078% / 2.30784906 | ADC: 0.25x
30.8        Turk_Central_Black_Sea
26.8        Yoruk
18.0        Turk_Southwest
11.2        Iran_Khorasan
3.8        LWK30
3.6        Karachay
3.4        Balkan_Gypsy
2.4        Turkmen

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Code:

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Gedrosian: 19.23
Siberian: 4.33
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 1.47
Atlantic_Med: 9.99
North_European: 7.44
South_Asian: 0.77
East_African: 2.24
Southwest_Asian: 11.48
East_Asian: 5.70
Caucasus: 34.37
Sub_Saharan: 3.64

Distance to:        Att3
6.15311303        Turk_Southeast
6.51845841        Azerbaijani
6.71656162        Turk_South
7.45453553        Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.48746953        Azerbaijani_Iran
7.95867451        Turk_Anatolia
8.19426629        Turk_Central_Black_Sea
8.21596616        Turk_Central_East
8.31016245        Turk_Central_West
9.10156580        Turk_Southwest
9.23572953        Yoruk
9.74381855        Turkmen_Iraq
10.30186876        Turk_West_BlackSea
10.47739471        Kurd_Kurmanji
11.30479102        Turk_Northwest
11.44992140        Kurd_Sorani
11.51638832        Zaza
11.74904677        Syrian_B
12.24116416        Iran_Khorasan
12.43948150        Talysh_Azerbaijan
12.45438878        Iraqi_Baghdad
12.74914115        Turk_East
12.80420634        Iranian_Fars
13.46071692        Turkmen_Iran
13.61272934        Lur_Iran

Target: Att3
Distance: 2.6054% / 2.60535523 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0        Turk_Southeast
32.0        Azerbaijani
6.6        Yoruk
5.2        Azerbaijani_Iran
4.0        Turkmen_Iraq
2.8        Hazara
2.2        LWK30
1.4        Mongol

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Iranian result (at least partially from Khorasan I think)

Code:

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Gedrosian: 27.48
Siberian: 2.46
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.00
North_European: 7.96
South_Asian: 4.99
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 12.77
East_Asian: 3.73
Caucasus: 34.32
Sub_Saharan: 0.29

Distance to:        ghoffranian
4.33737248        Iranian_Fars
5.26699155        Iran_Khorasan
7.38850458        Iranian
7.54019231        Lur_Iran
7.90564355        Kurd_Sorani
8.06388864        Azerbaijani_Iran
8.25628851        Kurd_Kurmanji
8.67585154        Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.87162894        Azerbaijani
8.92159179        Iran_Mazandaran
9.63563698        Turkmen_Iraq
10.00982018        Zaza
10.12726024        Kurd_KAZ
10.31614269        Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.67231768        Turkmen_Iran
11.71687245        Turk_Southeast
12.40729221        Turkmen
12.83261470        Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.65146512        Parsi_India
14.05055515        Iraqi_Baghdad
14.62688278        Turk_South
14.90571032        Udi_Azerbaijan
15.19951973        Turk_Central_East
15.83778078        Tajik_Herat
15.85225221        Iran_Bandari

Target: ghofranian
Distance: 1.8477% / 1.84771608 | ADC: 0.25x
33.4        Iran_Khorasan
31.6        Iranian_Fars
24.8        Iranian
5.4        Azerbaijani
2.0        Tajiks
1.6        Hazara
1.0        Saudis
0.2        Korean

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Quote:

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Turkish family (a lot of Iranian matches, maybe Alevis/Tahtaci?)
The Sub_Saharan maybe points to Southern Yörük origin though?

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I doubt that these are Alevis or Tahtaci. Most probably a family from Western/Sw Anatolian Turks, they have visible SSA, their ancestors were probably big landowners. Also i don’t believe they are Yörüks, at least not in the last 200/250 years, or some Yörüks intermarried with them. In the past they married with townsfolk to give up their hard life style.

Black ancestry in Southern Yörüks? Why would there be Neger among them? :icon_ask::icon_lol:

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Originally Posted by Leto

Black ancestry in Southern Yörüks? Why would there be Neger among them? :icon_ask::icon_lol:

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There once was a Yörük result from Southern Turkey region with significant SSA. As far as I know they are not Nomadic anymore so everything can be possible.

As I said I don't know where they are from, but I assume Southern Turkey.

Let's fight it out guys:
https://www.iranobserver.org/wp-cont...ar-678x381.jpg

Iranian result (Kit Name "Persian"):

Gedrosian: 24.94
Siberian: 1.67
Northwest_African: 0.89
Southeast_Asian: 1.61
Atlantic_Med: 5.37
North_European: 7.67
South_Asian: 4.40
East_African: 0.41
Southwest_Asian: 11.68
East_Asian: 3.32
Caucasus: 37.61
Sub_Saharan: 0.41

Distance to: Persian
4.83930780 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.35936563 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.63474933 Iranian_Fars
5.87805240 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.02906295 Iranian
6.11525960 Kurd_Sorani
6.25905744 Azerbaijani
6.54488350 Lur_Iran
7.03744982 Zaza
7.11563068 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.52091750 Iran_Khorasan
7.64139385 Turkmen_Iraq
7.74902575 Kurd_KAZ
8.77734584 Iran_Mazandaran
9.53562269 Turk_Southeast
10.81307542 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.29429059 Udi_Azerbaijan
12.53185940 Turk_East
12.53198308 Turk_Central_East
12.55410291 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.57450198 Turk_South
13.36157925 Turkmen_Iran
13.59782703 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
14.00856881 Turk_Anatolia
14.26326400 Turkmen

Target: Persian
Distance: 1.9093% / 1.90928334 | ADC: 0.5x
33.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
26.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
20.6 Iran_Khorasan
19.2 Iranian_Fars

Saudi (I think):
Gedrosian: 7.37
Siberian: 0.26
Northwest_African: 4.04
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.93
North_European: 0.13
South_Asian: 0.19
East_African: 7.13
Southwest_Asian: 44.19
East_Asian: 1.17
Caucasus: 28.58
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Saudaalzahra
3.91148309 Kuwait1
4.79523722 Bedouin
7.17759709 Saudi
8.70351653 Yemenite_Mahra
13.75055999 Yemen_Jews
14.35187096 Kuwait2
17.34219421 Coptic
18.52710177 Yemenite_mixed
19.68172503 Jordanians
21.33444858 Egyptian
23.03443075 Palestinian
24.41928541 Syrian_C
25.28554528 Syria_SW_Christian
25.94467190 Palestinian_Christian
27.68345715 Lebanese_Christian
28.62504323 Syrian_A
28.68168405 Lebanese_Muslim
28.82055169 Iraqi_Baghdad
30.13719960 Iraqi_Jew
30.78428982 Syrian_B
30.78637686 Kurdish_Jew
31.19730597 Iranian_Jew
31.21871874 Nusayri_Turkey
31.40589276 Mandean
33.74385129 Assyrian_South

Target: Saudaalzahra
Distance: 2.2192% / 2.21920676 | ADC: 0.25x
36.4 Bedouin
34.0 Saudi
22.2 Kuwait1
3.6 Mandean
3.4 Ethiopian_Jews

Iran is whiter :cool:

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Saudi (I think):
Gedrosian: 7.37
Siberian: 0.26
Northwest_African: 4.04
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 6.93
North_European: 0.13
South_Asian: 0.19
East_African: 7.13
Southwest_Asian: 44.19
East_Asian: 1.17
Caucasus: 28.58
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Saudaalzahra
3.91148309 Kuwait1
4.79523722 Bedouin
7.17759709 Saudi
8.70351653 Yemenite_Mahra
13.75055999 Yemen_Jews
14.35187096 Kuwait2
17.34219421 Coptic
18.52710177 Yemenite_mixed
19.68172503 Jordanians
21.33444858 Egyptian
23.03443075 Palestinian
24.41928541 Syrian_C
25.28554528 Syria_SW_Christian
25.94467190 Palestinian_Christian
27.68345715 Lebanese_Christian
28.62504323 Syrian_A
28.68168405 Lebanese_Muslim
28.82055169 Iraqi_Baghdad
30.13719960 Iraqi_Jew
30.78428982 Syrian_B
30.78637686 Kurdish_Jew
31.19730597 Iranian_Jew
31.21871874 Nusayri_Turkey
31.40589276 Mandean
33.74385129 Assyrian_South

Target: Saudaalzahra
Distance: 2.2192% / 2.21920676 | ADC: 0.25x
36.4 Bedouin
34.0 Saudi
22.2 Kuwait1
3.6 Mandean
3.4 Ethiopian_Jews

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New Saudi reference? It has been updated today.

Interesting result:

Azerbaijani from Borçalı, Georgia:

Gedrosian: 21.67
Siberian: 6.48
Northwest_African: 0.44
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.63
North_European: 3.68
South_Asian: 3.90
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.21
East_Asian: 3.71
Caucasus: 40.55
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Borcali
6.35175566 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.47026275 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.39095393 Azerbaijani
8.00053123 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.21818106 Zaza
8.27330647 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.35041915 Turk_Southeast
9.05776462 Turkmen_Iraq
9.50497764 Kurd_Sorani
9.57050155 Lur_Iran
9.77024053 Iranian
9.84280448 Turk_Central_East
9.85592715 Turk_East
10.17621246 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.34204525 Turk_South
10.46071699 Kurd_KAZ
10.72089548 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.60187054 Iranian_Fars
11.76935002 Turk_Anatolia
12.21243219 Turk_Central_West
12.38379990 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.88118007 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
13.00022308 Iran_Khorasan
13.10056106 Azeri_Jew
13.34404736 Mandean

Target: Azerbaijani_Borcaali
Distance: 2.6684% / 2.66839479 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
31.8 Lur_Iran
11.6 Georgian_Adjara
5.2 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
4.6 Yakut
1.6 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

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Originally Posted by Kyp

Interesting result:

Azerbaijani from Borçalı, Georgia:

Gedrosian: 21.67
Siberian: 6.48
Northwest_African: 0.44
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.63
North_European: 3.68
South_Asian: 3.90
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.21
East_Asian: 3.71
Caucasus: 40.55
Sub_Saharan: 0.00

Distance to: Azerbaijani_Borcali
6.35175566 Azerbaijani_Turkey
6.47026275 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.39095393 Azerbaijani
8.00053123 Kurd_Kurmanji
8.21818106 Zaza
8.27330647 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.35041915 Turk_Southeast
9.05776462 Turkmen_Iraq
9.50497764 Kurd_Sorani
9.57050155 Lur_Iran
9.77024053 Iranian
9.84280448 Turk_Central_East
9.85592715 Turk_East
10.17621246 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.34204525 Turk_South
10.46071699 Kurd_KAZ
10.72089548 Udi_Azerbaijan
11.60187054 Iranian_Fars
11.76935002 Turk_Anatolia
12.21243219 Turk_Central_West
12.38379990 Iraqi_Baghdad
12.88118007 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
13.00022308 Iran_Khorasan
13.10056106 Azeri_Jew
13.34404736 Mandean

Target: Azerbaijani_Borcaali
Distance: 2.6684% / 2.66839479 | ADC: 0.25x
44.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
31.8 Lur_Iran
11.6 Georgian_Adjara
5.2 Mountain_Jew_Chechnya
4.6 Yakut
1.6 Bnei_Menashe_Jews

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First time I am seeing more Siberian than N euro in any Oghuz turk lol