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I was saying in a satirical manner to him since he says J2b2 is a Anatolian haplogroup and he goes back deep in time to claim that.I stated before i believe E1b1b carriers were Oriental looking fellas something between South to East Mediterranids.That would explain the more Caucasian appearance of EastAfricans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Clementina
Early origins
The origin of Y-DNA Haplogroup J maps to the Middle East around the ‘Fertile Crescent’, an area also known as the ‘Cradle of Civilization’ since this area saw the birth of many technological advancements that helped humans move from nomadic hunter-gatherers to an agriculture-based society living in one place. The sprouting of some the first cities and empires in human history were contingent on these developments and featured the proliferation of Haplogroup J.
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions. An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
http://www.dnaancestry.ae/Y-DNA-Haplogroup-J.php
Present in Anatolia but with maybe with 2% percentage?Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
Exaxtly that prove that this subclade is present on majority only amongst Albanians.
What do you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Artek
And ofcourse I mean my maternal grandfather with 'mother'. ;)
Eastern europeans think that R1a > R1b... but deep down they're just jelous :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Türkü
were does it say onely 2% i cant find it?Quote:
Originally Posted by safinator
LOL are you talking about J2b2 or J2/J in general since J2b2 is hardly find outside Albanian population.Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
The J2b2 subclade is present in India, where it appears to have the highest frequency among the middle castes (Dravidian and Indo-European). Its overall level in India is ~5% and this frequency drops in half in neighboring Pakistan. J2b2 is also found in Nepal, but no J2b2 has been found in Tibet, providing strong evidence that the Northern spread of this subclade was prevented by the Himalaya Mountains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leo
The J2b2 subclade is also present in Anatolia, specifically in the southern and eastern regions, which have been proposed as a source of J haplogroups for many regions. An interesting peak of the J2b2 subclade has been detected in Kosovar Albanians (~17%), whereas the J2b2 levels range from 1 to 4% in the Balkans overall.
dont u try to claim J2b2 to or selfs now other people have it to :D
speaking of j2b2, i would highly recommend you to check out this dna study done by abu ameroQuote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2156/10/59
the study includes samples from all over the middle east, including 523 persons from anatolia/turkey (which is quite representative) but only a tiny number of turks i.e 0,96% were tested positive to j2b2-m241, latter is a very important marker among albanians, and most probably have its origins in the southern balkans.
the j2b2 presence on the indian subcontinent could be a remnant of neolithic migrations
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Our Saudi Arabia sample was compared to other Arabian
Peninsula populations and to surrounding areas using
data from previous studies performed at a similar level of
haplogroup resolution. These samples comprise, 72
Qatari, 164 United Arab Emirate and 62 Yemeni [15]; 121
Omani and 147 Egyptian [14]; 201 Somalis [17]; 916 Lebanese
[18]; 146 Jordanian [19]; 203 Iraqi (139 from Al-
Zahery et al. [20] and 64 from Sanchez et al. [17]); 523
Turks [21];150 Irani [22] and 176 Pakistani [23].
Are you trying to make me a Gypsy Serbian retard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Milenko
It peaks higher at Albanian population that is what matter no one owns a haplogroup.