Iranian GEDmatch kits

Sometaims idiz hart to distinguish bitwin Guz and Iranians.

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Originally Posted by Proto-Shaman

Sometaims idiz hart to distinguish bitwin Guz and Iranians.

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I don't know much about Oghuz Turks, but the Seljuk Turks (Turkmen) heavily mixed with the eastern Iranic people in Central Asia. Old Seljuks (Turkmen) were mongrel people.

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Originally Posted by MS85

I don't know much about Oghuz Turks, but the Seljuk Turks (Turkmen) heavily mixed with the eastern Iranic people in Central Asia. Old Seljuks (Turkmen) were mongrel people.

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I think Turks and Iranians were the same shit. Both have agglutination.

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Originally Posted by Proto-Shaman

I think Turks and Iranians were the same shit. Both have agglutination.

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Western Iranians are native to an area around Zagros/Northern Mesopotamia/Southwest Caspian Sea, while original Turks are from Central Asia/Altai. Our Western Iranian language is from West Asia, while Turkic language is from Central Asia.

Our languages are very different. Iranic has ergativity, while Turkic as an Altaic language doesn't have any ergativity.

Also, both groups belong to 2 different races and different cultures. Western Iranians have a lot ancient Iranian Plateau farmer auDNA. It is our 'native' auDNA. And our culture is linked to Mesopotamia. But it is true that the Aryans from the Iranian Plateau spread their auDNA into the Steppes, still it is not really native to the Siberian/Mongoloid folks in the Steppes.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Kit M470761

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 35.84
2 Gedrosia 28.75
3 Southwest_Asian 14.42
4 South_Asian 6
5 Atlantic_Med 5.31
6 North_European 5.23
7 East_African 1.83
8 Siberian 1.33
9 Northwest_African 1.08
10 Sub_Saharan 0.2

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 3.19
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 5.57
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.52
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 8.05
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 13.26
6 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 14.76
7 Turks (Behar) 17.98
8 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 18.61
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 19.06
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 19.7
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 19.74
12 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.95
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 20.27
14 Lebanese (Behar) 21.27
15 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 21.34
16 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 21.8
17 Syrians (Behar) 22.08
18 Armenian (Dodecad) 22.34
19 Jordanians (Behar) 24.09
20 Lezgins (Behar) 24.31

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 2.21
2 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 2.31
3 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Ho (Chaubey) @ 2.35
4 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 2.36
5 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Savara (Chaubey) @ 2.36
6 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 2.37
7 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Kharia (Chaubey) @ 2.39
8 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Gond (Metspalu) @ 2.44
9 97.6% Iranians (Behar) + 2.4% Juang (Chaubey) @ 2.46
10 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 2.47
11 97.6% Iranians (Behar) + 2.4% BONDA (Chaubey) @ 2.47
12 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 2.5
13 94.5% Iranians (Behar) + 5.5% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 2.54
14 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 2.54
15 88.6% Kurd (Dodecad) + 11.4% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 2.54
16 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 2.58
17 97.4% Iranians (Behar) + 2.6% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 2.58
18 97.3% Iranians (Behar) + 2.7% Kol (Metspalu) @ 2.6
19 97.5% Iranians (Behar) + 2.5% Ethiopians (Behar) @ 2.62
20 97.6% Iranians (Behar) + 2.4% Ethiopian_Jews (Behar) @ 2.63

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Another one

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Originally Posted by Leto

Y-DNA: G2
mtDNA: J1c


Dodecad K12b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 39.48
2 Gedrosia 27.4
3 Southwest_Asian 12.64
4 North_European 7.21
5 Atlantic_Med 5.64
6 South_Asian 5.63
7 Southeast_Asian 0.88
8 Siberian 0.74
9 East_African 0.39

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 3.13
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 5.2
3 Iranians (Behar) 5.47
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.55
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 11.34
6 Turks (Behar) 14.9
7 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.3
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 16.76
9 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 17.2
10 Turkish (Dodecad) 17.25
11 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 17.36
12 Assyrian (Dodecad) 17.54
13 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 18.13
14 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 18.17
15 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 19.04
16 Armenian (Dodecad) 19.23
17 Lebanese (Behar) 20.89
18 Lezgins (Behar) 21.02
19 Armenians (Behar) 22.2
20 Syrians (Behar) 22.45

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.8% Gond (Metspalu) @ 1.2
2 93.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 1.28
3 93.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 1.28
4 93.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.4% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 1.29
5 93.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.9% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 1.31
6 93.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.7% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 1.34
7 92.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.2% Kol (Metspalu) @ 1.38
8 93.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.9% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 1.4
9 92.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.2% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 1.43
10 91.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.3% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 1.47
11 92.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.4% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 1.51
12 92.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 1.53
13 93.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.2% ASUR (Chaubey) @ 1.57
14 92.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.1% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 1.6
15 92.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.9% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 1.62
16 94.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 5.7% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 1.63
17 92.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.8% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 1.65
18 92.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.3% Kurumba (Metspalu) @ 1.67
19 92.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.9% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 1.68
20 86.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 13.1% Bnei_Menashe_Jews (Behar) @ 1.71


Dodecad K7b Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 51.47
2 Southern 26.72
3 Atlantic_Baltic 11.07
4 South_Asian 9.24
5 East_Asian 0.74
6 Siberian 0.73
7 African 0.03

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranian (Dodecad) 3.06
2 Iranians (Behar) 3.56
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 4.93
4 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 5.34
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 10.36
6 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 11.47
7 Armenians (Behar) 11.99
8 Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) 12.52
9 Georgians (Behar) 12.92
10 Armenian (Dodecad) 12.96
11 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 13.17
12 Turks (Behar) 13.56
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.18
14 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 14.36
15 Assyrian (Dodecad) 14.57
16 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 15.02
17 North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) 16.12
18 Adygei (HGDP) 16.13
19 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 16.16
20 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.17

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.8% Chamar (Metspalu) @ 0.57
2 92.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.4% Kol (Metspalu) @ 0.59
3 93.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.6% North_Kannadi (Behar) @ 0.59
4 92.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.1% Chenchus (Metspalu) @ 0.6
5 93.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.7% Hakkipikki (Metspalu) @ 0.62
6 93.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.1% MALAYAN (Behar) @ 0.64
7 91.6% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.4% Muslim (Metspalu) @ 0.64
8 92.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.6% Uttar_Pradesh_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 0.65
9 92.5% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.5% Dusadh (Metspalu) @ 0.66
10 91.9% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.1% Kanjars (Metspalu) @ 0.66
11 72.6% Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) + 27.4% Pathan (HGDP) @ 0.68
12 93.1% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.9% SAKILLI (Behar) @ 0.68
13 93.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.6% Gond (Metspalu) @ 0.68
14 91.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.3% Dharkars (Metspalu) @ 0.7
15 91.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 8.3% Tharus (Metspalu) @ 0.74
16 94% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6% Pulliyar (Metspalu) @ 0.76
17 89.8% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 10.2% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 0.76
18 93.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 6.3% Nihali (Metspalu) @ 0.79
19 92.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.3% Piramalai_Kallars (Metspalu) @ 0.84
20 92.3% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 7.7% Tamil_Nadu_Scheduled_Caste (Metspalu) @ 0.88

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HarappaWorld Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 41.13
2 Baloch 28.11
3 SW-Asian 11.84
4 Mediterranean 5.97
5 S-Indian 5.45
6 NE-Euro 4.63
7 American 1.12
8 SE-Asian 0.78
9 NE-Asian 0.49
10 Siberian 0.4
11 E-African 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 3.16
2 kurd (harappa) 3.93
3 iranian (behar) 4.52
4 kurd (yunusbayev) 5.58
5 kurd (xing) 5.58
6 turkish (harappa) 10.23
7 azeri (harappa) 10.37
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 10.89
9 armenian (harappa) 11.88
10 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.73
11 turk (behar) 14.62
12 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 14.7
13 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 14.74
14 assyrian (harappa) 14.85
15 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 15.18
16 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.79
17 iranian-jew (behar) 15.95
18 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 16.47
19 kumyk (yunusbayev) 17.08
20 georgia-jew (behar) 17.33

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 91.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.2% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 1.46
2 91.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.4% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 1.48
3 87.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 12.7% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 1.54
4 90.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.2% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 1.56
5 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 1.62
6 90.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.4% gujarati (harappa) @ 1.64
7 90.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.6% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 1.64
8 90.7% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.3% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.65
9 90.9% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.1% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 1.68
10 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% meghawal (reich) @ 1.69
11 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 1.69
12 91.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 8.5% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 1.69
13 91% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 1.69
14 88.3% kurd (yunusbayev) + 11.7% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 1.7
15 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.71
16 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 1.71
17 90.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.2% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 1.71
18 89.4% kurd (yunusbayev) + 10.6% cochin-jew (behar) @ 1.72
19 90.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 9.5% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 1.72
20 88.6% kurd (yunusbayev) + 11.4% kashmiri-pahari (harappa) @ 1.73

My Father Azeri-Turk from Iran, with minor Mazandarani and Persian ancestry:


HarappaWorld

1 Caucasian 39.44
2 Baloch 21.23
3 NE-Euro 10.91
4 SW-Asian 8.6
5 Mediterranean 6.88
6 S-Indian 4.26
7 NE-Asian 3.91
8 Siberian 3.58
9 Beringian 0.52
10 E-African 0.44
11 SE-Asian 0.23

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 azeri (harappa) 5.96
2 iranian (harappa) 7.14
3 turkish (harappa) 7.16
4 kurd (harappa) 7.68
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.44
6 iranian (behar) 9.49
7 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 9.54
8 turk (behar) 10.12
9 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 10.16
10 kurd (xing) 10.58
11 armenian (harappa) 11.68
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.69
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 12.43
14 kumyk (yunusbayev) 12.52
15 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 13.37
16 stalskoe (xing) 13.84
17 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.38
18 assyrian (harappa) 16.75
19 lezgin (behar) 16.92
20 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 18.5

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 79.4% turk (behar) + 20.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.33
2 77.2% turk (behar) + 22.8% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.4
3 78.3% turk (behar) + 21.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.57
4 72.3% turk (behar) + 27.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.57
5 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% burusho (hgdp) @ 2.72
6 77.1% turk (behar) + 22.9% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.78
7 79.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 20.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.8
8 77.3% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 22.7% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.8
9 77% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 23% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.84
10 80.9% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.1% balochi (hgdp) @ 2.91
11 72.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 27.6% pashtun (harappa) @ 2.98
12 79.7% turk (behar) + 20.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.01
13 85.7% azeri (harappa) + 14.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.05
14 78.5% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 21.5% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.05
15 81.1% turk (behar) + 18.9% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.09
16 79.6% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 20.4% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.1
17 80.8% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 19.2% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.11
18 77.3% azeri (harappa) + 22.7% tajik (yunusbayev) @ 3.12
19 78.7% turk (behar) + 21.3% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.13
20 78.7% turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) + 21.3% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.16

HarappaWorld

1 Caucasian 40.8
2 Baloch 27.84
3 SW-Asian 13.91
4 Mediterranean 8.27
5 NE-Euro 3.91
6 S-Indian 2.22
7 Siberian 1.13
8 American 0.89
9 SE-Asian 0.65
10 Papuan 0.37

Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 3.25
2 iranian (behar) 4.44
3 iranian (harappa) 4.71
4 kurd (xing) 4.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 5.33
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.16
7 turkish (harappa) 9.44
8 armenian (harappa) 10.46
9 azeri (harappa) 10.84

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Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf

Warning: they may also be not fully Iranian, I couldn't verify their origins.

A103188
1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_harappa + iranian_harappa + syrian_behar @ 2.299037
M346537
1 armenian_behar + lezgin_behar + samaritian_behar + sindhi_hgdp @ 1.715126
A969963
1 armenian_yunusbayev + bhatia_harappa + turk-kayseri_hodoglugil + yemenese_behar @ 2.500079
M508781
1 bhatia_harappa + iranian_behar + north-ossetian_harappa + palestinian_harappa @ 1.860862
M470761
1 bhatia_harappa + kurd_xing + kurd_xing + palestinian_hgdp @ 1.981406
T524191
1 balochi_hgdp + samaritian_behar + urkarah_xing + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 2.167687
A114871
1 balochi_hgdp + georgian_behar + kurd_yunusbayev + uzbekistan-jew_behar @ 1.691357

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My sibling matches all but the second one on small segments.

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Originally Posted by MS85

HarappaWorld

1 Caucasian 40.8
2 Baloch 27.84
3 SW-Asian 13.91
4 Mediterranean 8.27
5 NE-Euro 3.91
6 S-Indian 2.22
7 Siberian 1.13
8 American 0.89
9 SE-Asian 0.65
10 Papuan 0.37

Population (source) Distance
1 kurd (harappa) 3.25
2 iranian (behar) 4.44
3 iranian (harappa) 4.71
4 kurd (xing) 4.74
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 5.33
6 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 9.16
7 turkish (harappa) 9.44
8 armenian (harappa) 10.46
9 azeri (harappa) 10.84

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Damn you're almost twice as close to iranian average than my father despite being a yazidi and not from Iran
Can you post Eurogenes k13 aswell?

What about internal Iranian differences and trends? AFAIK the Eastern parts have more south asian admixture, but what about the Caspian region? Or the South-West?