So they aren't assimilated Georgians. This result is far from low Mong. But it's unusual. Very low European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
They live in this region, primarily the Southern half.
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So they aren't assimilated Georgians. This result is far from low Mong. But it's unusual. Very low European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
They live in this region, primarily the Southern half.
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Azerbaijani - all 4 Grandparents originally from Jabrayil in Artsakh/Karabakh
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Gedrosian: 19.83
Siberian: 3.71
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 8.86
North_European: 9.51
South_Asian: 3.33
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 10.75
East_Asian: 3.95
Caucasus: 39.79
Sub_Saharan: 0.25
Distance to: Azerbaijani_Cabrayil
2.00653931 Azerbaijani_Turkey
2.76958481 Azerbaijani
3.85493191 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.75300957 Turk_Southeast
5.85535652 Turk_Central_East
6.33202179 Turk_South
6.78917521 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
7.33124137 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.47808130 Zaza
7.52422754 Turk_Anatolia
7.94725739 Turk_Central_West
8.00069372 Turk_East
8.07186472 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.72173148 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.77226881 Turkmen_Iraq
9.33417377 Kurd_Sorani
10.04065735 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.22097843 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.22191763 Turk_Southwest
11.01776747 Iranian
11.06549592 Kurd_KAZ
11.30092032 Yoruk
11.52034288 Lur_Iran
11.77068392 Iran_Khorasan
11.94140695 Iranian_Fars
Target: Azerbaijani_Cabrayil
Distance: 0.9755% / 0.97553175 | ADC: 0.25x
91.6 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.6 Nogai
2.0 Azerbaijani
0.8 Pulliyar
Interesting results. A person from Turkey with full or predominant ancestry from the North Caucasus (he stated Vladikavkaz as the birth place of his great-grandparents)
J2a1
D4g2
Gedrosia 18.95 Pct
Siberian 3.27 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 1.14 Pct
Atlantic_Med 6.28 Pct
North_European 18.27 Pct
South_Asian 1.10 Pct
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 1.75 Pct
East_Asian 3.87 Pct
Caucasus 45.37 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Distance to: YO
2.59861502 Karachay
3.15917711 Balkar
3.97322287 Ossetian
4.01105971 Kumyks
4.09458179 Circassian
4.78735835 Ingush
6.40916531 Chechen
9.86743128 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.75596579 Qumuq
12.46906171 Lak2
Target: YO
Distance: 1.7967% / 1.79667392 | ADC: 0.25x
60.8 Karachay
27.2 Circassian
7.4 Kumyks
4.4 Dargin
0.2 Western_Indonesian
That is very weird, at least his Turkic admixture should give him 5% North European. Even his Atl.Med is low. One Terekkeme, which was highly Turkic had low North European too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp
I once thought that could be Mongolian influence maybe, but idk whether they settled in Iran or had any influence to ethnogenesis of Azerbaijanis. Just Chobanids have still descendants as far i know. At least the Terekkeme clustered with Mongolians.
North Euro in Georgia/Armenia and Northeast Turkey can be low. If they had ancestry from there it could have been a weird re-combination of genes. I would not overthink these kind of results too much.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
Giresun also has kind of low NorthEuro sometimes despite being heavily turkic.
I noticed Azerbaijanis from Northwest tend to have higher Atlantic_Med than North_Euro.
I also had some theories about this, especially because Azeri's were almost exactly modelled as fully Talysh but with additional Han+Siberian, but to be honest, it simply can't make sense in terms of Haplogroups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bender1999
If we consider the Turks as 40% Eurasian, even the rest would not be pure white, so the difference would only be 1-2% European between them
Iranian from the Alborz region (Persian/Azeri mixed region which is reflecting in this result)
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Gedrosian: 21.12
Siberian: 1.79
Northwest_African: 1.37
Southeast_Asian: 0.67
Atlantic_Med: 6.71
North_European: 8.16
South_Asian: 3.86
East_African: 0.00
Southwest_Asian: 11.97
East_Asian: 3.62
Caucasus: 40.09
Sub_Saharan: 0.65
[Distance to: Charm_Alborz
2.68696855 Azerbaijani_Iran
3.49277826 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.56943973 Azerbaijani
5.45935894 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.60600571 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.67522687 Zaza
6.26194858 Turk_Southeast
6.70178334 Kurd_Sorani
6.77366961 Turkmen_Iraq
8.13457436 Udi_Azerbaijan
8.38671569 Turk_East
8.48909300 Turk_Central_East
8.66062931 Kurd_KAZ
8.79326447 Iranian
8.88906069 Lur_Iran
9.22421812 Turk_South
9.53841182 Iranian_Fars
9.83336158 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.57996692 Turk_Anatolia
10.66111157 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.85027189 Turk_Central_West
11.01049499 Iraqi_Baghdad
11.08264860 Iran_Khorasan
12.32167602 Syrian_B
12.50132393 Iran_Mazandaran
Target: Charm_Alborz
Distance: 1.4072% / 1.40723004 | ADC: 0.25x
81.4 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.0 Abkhazian
3.2 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Pulliyar
0.8 Korean
0.2 Mandenka
Low North Euro in that Azeri may be just because of the V5 chip, although it won't increase dramatically with other data. May rise to 5% or so.
Kurd(Sorani) from Sulaymaniah(Iraq):
Gedrosia: 24.94 Pct
Siberian: 0.29 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.78 Pct
Southeast_Asian: -
Atlantic_Med: 6.15 Pct
North_European: 7.73 Pct
South_Asian: 4.09 Pct
East_African: 0.08 Pct
Southwest_Asian: 16.24 Pct
East_Asian: 1.29 Pct
Caucasus: 34.25 Pct
Sub_Saharan: 0.16 Pct
If i posted this, please say i it: Nogay from Konya with ancestors from Cetsan/Crim:
Gedrosia: 9.15 Pct
Siberian: 18.69 Pct
Northwest_African: 0.15 Pct
Southeast_Asian: 4.04 Pct
Atlantic_Med: 6.99 Pct
North_European: 19.41 Pct
South_Asian: 2.21 Pct
East_African: 0.59 Pct
Southwest_Asian: -
East_Asian: 22.96 Pct
Caucasus: 15.82 Pct
Sub_Saharan: -
Do you maybe know from which village too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul