Yes, on HarappaWorld Iranians get 1-10% NE-European (5% on average) depending on the ethnic group, province or individual. Obviously not a white country ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
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Yes, on HarappaWorld Iranians get 1-10% NE-European (5% on average) depending on the ethnic group, province or individual. Obviously not a white country ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by War Chief
They also get around 6% med on avg, which can also be counted as european(since euros can get lot of it)Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
but yeah, not as euro shifted as pamiris who can get 26% NE-Euro/Med component on avg and even up to 29%
Isfahan + Khuzestan (from Youtube)
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 38.14
2 Gedrosia 26.17
3 Southwest_Asian 12.11
4 Atlantic_Med 8.53
5 North_European 6.45
6 South_Asian 4.60
7 Southeast_Asian 1.49
8 East_African 1.01
Distance to: Isfahan_Khuzestan
4.52542816 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.91306422 Kurd_Sorani
5.04748452 Lur_Iran
5.27634343 Iranian
5.29641388 Talysh_Azerbaijan
5.71410535 Iranian_Fars
5.72732922 Zaza
6.36645898 Kurd
6.45895502 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.68743598 Iranians
6.85403531 Kurds
7.00009286 Turkmen_Iraq
7.75529497 Iran_Central_East
7.81261800 Azerbaijani
8.40511749 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.53731808 Iran_Mazandaran
9.93995976 Iran_Khorasan
10.32784101 Turk_Southeast
12.08345149 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.14875714 Turk_East
12.57685970 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
13.34258596 Turk_Central_East
14.26034712 Armenian_East
14.29130155 Turk_South
15.22998687 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
His Father (ethnic Persian from Khuzestan)
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 37.84
2 Gedrosia 26.93
3 Southwest_Asian 13.97
4 Atlantic_Med 8.21
5 North_European 5.14
6 South_Asian 3.36
7 East_African 1.74
8 Northwest_African 1.39
Distance to: Khuzestan
3.54974647 Lur_Iran
3.94410953 Kurd_Sorani
4.53604453 Kurd_Kurmanji
5.08826100 Kurd
5.13949414 Iranians
5.34058049 Iranian_Fars
5.40965803 Iranian
6.01671006 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.03024875 Zaza
6.11708264 Turkmen_Iraq
6.22482128 Kurds
7.47628919 Azerbaijani_Iran
8.67421466 Iran_Central_East
8.81913828 Iran_Mazandaran
9.01052718 Azerbaijani
9.72380584 Azerbaijani_Turkey
11.00774727 Turk_Southeast
11.29629143 Iran_Khorasan
11.38931078 Uzbekistan_Jews
12.99973461 Turk_East
14.36173388 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
14.40563084 Turk_Central_East
14.49647198 Armenian_East
14.96836330 Assyrian
15.31197897 Turk_South
Cool results, typical Persians.
What is your ethnicity?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Russian, to put it shortly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
Pamirirs are a population isolate rather than a real ethnicity. Their contribution to civilization is like zero. They are interesting as far as genetics is concerned but for some reason, many groups that have been inconsequential historically from these regions get a lot of interest on these boards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Assumingly golestan iranian(due to having "golestani" in username):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 32.39
2 Baloch 28.47
3 S-Indian 12.21
4 SW-Asian 8.85
5 NE-Euro 8.34
6 Mediterranean 3.13
7 Siberian 2.29
8 Pygmy 1.45
9 NE-Asian 1.07
10 E-African 0.7
11 W-African 0.69
12 Beringian 0.4
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.2
2 iranian (harappa) 11.67
3 iranian (behar) 12.05
4 kurd (harappa) 13.41
5 pashtun (harappa) 15.36
6 kurd (xing) 16.08
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.17
8 tajik (yunusbayev) 16.5
9 azeri (harappa) 16.96
10 turkish (harappa) 17.35
11 iraqi-arab (harappa) 19.12
12 stalskoe (xing) 19.31
13 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 20.25
14 armenian (harappa) 20.65
15 kumyk (yunusbayev) 20.65
16 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.73
17 romanian-b (behar) 20.87
18 turk (behar) 21.15
19 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 21.16
20 lezgin (behar) 21.54
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 63.3% pashtun (harappa) + 36.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) @ 2.75
2 59.4% azeri (harappa) + 40.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.86
3 62.2% pashtun (harappa) + 37.8% assyrian (harappa) @ 2.93
4 67.8% kurd (yunusbayev) + 32.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.97
5 77.2% iranian (harappa) + 22.8% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.98
6 76.2% iranian (harappa) + 23.8% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.04
7 63.8% pashtun (harappa) + 36.2% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.06
8 74.8% iranian (harappa) + 25.2% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.09
9 78% iranian (harappa) + 22% vaish (reich) @ 3.2
10 77% iranian (harappa) + 23% bengali-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.22
11 53.9% pathan (hgdp) + 46.1% georgia-jew (behar) @ 3.31
12 72% kurd (harappa) + 28% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.35
13 57.1% pashtun (harappa) + 42.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) @ 3.37
14 64.7% azeri (harappa) + 35.3% punjabi-arain (xing) @ 3.4
15 72.4% iranian (harappa) + 27.6% up-muslim (harappa) @ 3.42
16 69% iranian (harappa) + 31% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.45
17 64.5% pashtun (harappa) + 35.5% armenian (behar) @ 3.45
18 78.4% iranian (harappa) + 21.6% up-kshatriya (metspalu) @ 3.45
19 69.5% kurd (yunusbayev) + 30.5% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.47
20 57.6% azeri (harappa) + 42.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.47
Shiraz iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.71
2 Baloch 24.72
3 S-Indian 11.51
4 SW-Asian 11.45
5 NE-Euro 6.92
6 Mediterranean 5.79
7 Siberian 1.22
8 NE-Asian 1.14
9 E-African 0.9
10 Beringian 0.72
11 SE-Asian 0.67
12 W-African 0.25
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 9.31
2 iranian (harappa) 9.34
3 kurd (harappa) 10.11
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 12.44
5 turkish (harappa) 13.23
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 kurd (xing) 13.61
8 azeri (harappa) 13.68
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.4
10 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 15.85
11 armenian (harappa) 15.99
12 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 17.03
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.08
14 turk (behar) 17.32
15 romanian-b (behar) 19.19
16 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 19.44
17 stalskoe (xing) 19.6
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.71
19 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 19.74
20 pashtun (harappa) 19.84
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.1% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.9% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.03
2 62.9% georgia-jew (behar) + 37.1% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.07
3 70.4% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 29.6% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.21
4 53.4% lebanese-druze (haber) + 46.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.22
5 53% pathan (hgdp) + 47% druze (hgdp) @ 2.35
6 64.5% assyrian (harappa) + 35.5% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.38
7 59.4% georgia-jew (behar) + 40.6% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.46
8 63.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 36.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 2.55
9 71.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 28.3% up-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.57
10 51% druze (hgdp) + 49% bhatia (harappa) @ 2.62
11 59.7% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 40.3% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.63
12 65% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 35% kashmiri (harappa) @ 2.66
13 72.7% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 27.3% brahmin-uttar-pradesh (metspalu) @ 2.72
14 61% assyrian (harappa) + 39% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 2.72
15 52.7% pashtun (harappa) + 47.3% georgia-jew (behar) @ 2.72
16 67.6% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 32.4% up-muslim (harappa) @ 2.73
17 64.9% armenian (harappa) + 35.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 2.78
18 82.8% kurd (harappa) + 17.2% sri-lankan (harappa) @ 2.8
19 52.1% lebanese-christian (haber) + 47.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 2.81
20 84.2% kurd (harappa) + 15.8% tharu (reich) @ 2.81
Assumingly mazandarani iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 39.99
2 Baloch 29.52
3 SW-Asian 12.66
4 S-Indian 8.94
5 Mediterranean 3.42
6 NE-Euro 1.8
7 Siberian 1.73
8 Papuan 0.68
9 American 0.57
10 W-African 0.43
11 Pygmy 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 6.31
2 iranian (harappa) 6.77
3 kurd (harappa) 7.71
4 kurd (xing) 9.14
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.64
6 azeri (harappa) 13.7
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.71
8 turkish (harappa) 13.92
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 14.88
10 armenian (harappa) 15.02
11 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.46
12 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.59
13 assyrian (harappa) 17.37
14 iranian-jew (behar) 17.79
15 turk (behar) 18.42
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 18.54
17 azerbaijan-jew (behar) 18.94
18 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 19.18
19 iraq-jew (behar) 19.35
20 georgia-jew (behar) 19.85
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% kurd (xing) + 13.4% velama (metspalu) @ 3.1
2 87.8% kurd (xing) + 12.2% vysya (reich) @ 3.17
3 86.9% kurd (xing) + 13.1% tamil-nadu-scheduled-caste (metspalu) @ 3.19
4 87.2% kurd (xing) + 12.8% kurumba (metspalu) @ 3.19
5 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 3.2
6 87% kurd (xing) + 13% tamil-vellalar (harappa) @ 3.2
7 87.5% kurd (xing) + 12.5% piramalai-kallar (metspalu) @ 3.22
8 87.5% kurd (xing) + 12.5% singapore-indian-a (sgvp) @ 3.25
9 87.1% kurd (xing) + 12.9% tamil-nadar (harappa) @ 3.26
10 85.8% kurd (xing) + 14.2% tamil (harappa) @ 3.27
11 86.3% kurd (xing) + 13.7% karnataka (harappa) @ 3.28
12 87.4% kurd (xing) + 12.6% naidu (reich) @ 3.31
13 86.8% kurd (xing) + 13.2% sinhalese (harappa) @ 3.34
14 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 3.34
15 87% kurd (xing) + 13% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 3.38
16 85.5% kurd (xing) + 14.5% ap-hyderabad (harappa) @ 3.39
17 88.1% kurd (xing) + 11.9% kamsali (reich) @ 3.39
18 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 3.39
19 88.3% kurd (xing) + 11.7% sakilli (chaubey) @ 3.4
20 86.7% kurd (xing) + 13.3% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 3.42
Assumingly iranian arabs(due to having arabic usernames):
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 31.59
2 Baloch 30.38
3 SW-Asian 17.04
4 S-Indian 10.32
5 NE-Euro 4.48
6 W-African 3.67
7 Beringian 1.1
8 Pygmy 0.75
9 Siberian 0.42
10 San 0.22
11 E-African 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 10.74
2 iranian (harappa) 13.44
3 kurd (harappa) 14.1
4 kurd (xing) 15.75
5 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.62
6 turkmen (yunusbayev) 16.86
7 kurd (yunusbayev) 16.89
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 19.35
9 pashtun (harappa) 19.71
10 turkish (harappa) 20.05
11 azeri (harappa) 20.34
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 21.6
13 armenian (harappa) 21.62
14 tajik (yunusbayev) 22.28
15 palestinian (harappa) 22.44
16 iranian-jew (behar) 23.26
17 syrian (behar) 23.79
18 assyrian (harappa) 24.2
19 iraq-jew (behar) 24.23
20 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 24.47
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 43.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 6.57
2 84.1% iranian (behar) + 15.9% kerala-nair (harappa) @ 6.61
3 85.8% iranian (behar) + 14.2% gujarati-a (1000genomes) @ 6.67
4 84% iranian (behar) + 16% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 6.67
5 76% iranian (behar) + 24% sindhi (harappa) @ 6.68
6 83.5% iranian (behar) + 16.5% meghawal (reich) @ 6.69
7 85.4% iranian (behar) + 14.6% ap-reddy (harappa) @ 6.72
8 79.1% iranian (behar) + 20.9% punjabi (harappa) @ 6.73
9 59% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 41% bhatia (harappa) @ 6.73
10 83.5% iranian (behar) + 16.5% gujarati-b (hapmap) @ 6.73
11 83.9% iranian (behar) + 16.1% gujarati (harappa) @ 6.74
12 83.7% iranian (behar) + 16.3% brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) @ 6.75
13 84.1% iranian (behar) + 15.9% iyer-brahmin (harappa) @ 6.76
14 83.8% iranian (behar) + 16.2% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 6.76
15 77.5% iranian (behar) + 22.5% gujarati-muslim (harappa) @ 6.77
16 83.8% iranian (behar) + 16.2% tn-brahmin (xing) @ 6.77
17 84.4% iranian (behar) + 15.6% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 6.77
18 84.7% iranian (behar) + 15.3% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 6.79
19 86.3% iranian (behar) + 13.7% gujarati-patel (harappa) @ 6.79
20 78% iranian (behar) + 22% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 6.79
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 33.93
2 Baloch 26.27
3 SW-Asian 17.18
4 S-Indian 9.61
5 NE-Euro 4.48
6 Mediterranean 4.43
7 E-African 1.3
8 American 0.96
9 Beringian 0.78
10 W-African 0.57
11 Pygmy 0.5
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 7.3
2 kurd (harappa) 9.86
3 iranian (harappa) 10.16
4 iraqi-arab (harappa) 11.24
5 kurd (xing) 12.65
6 kurd (yunusbayev) 13.36
7 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 14.48
8 turkish (harappa) 15.04
9 turkmen (yunusbayev) 15.9
10 azeri (harappa) 16.17
11 armenian (harappa) 16.31
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 17.09
13 palestinian (harappa) 17.21
14 syrian (behar) 18.61
15 iranian-jew (behar) 18.78
16 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 19.41
17 iraq-jew (behar) 19.44
18 assyrian (harappa) 19.64
19 turk (behar) 19.79
20 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 20.02
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 66.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 33.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 2.68
2 61.3% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.7% sindhi (harappa) @ 2.99
3 73% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 27% kalash (hgdp) @ 3.03
4 63.7% iraq-jew (behar) + 36.3% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.05
5 70.2% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 29.8% nepalese-a (xing) @ 3.07
6 63.6% iraq-jew (behar) + 36.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.16
7 64.4% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35.6% sindhi (harappa) @ 3.19
8 67.3% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.21
9 65% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 35% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.24
10 64.6% iranian-jew (behar) + 35.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.26
11 60.4% iraq-jew (behar) + 39.6% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.3
12 68.9% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 31.1% singapore-indian-c (sgvp) @ 3.32
13 75.7% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 24.3% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.35
14 73.1% iraqi-arab (harappa) + 26.9% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.39
15 61.9% iraq-jew (behar) + 38.1% punjabi-khatri (harappa) @ 3.4
16 67.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 32.5% punjabi (harappa) @ 3.42
17 68.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 31.3% punjabi-brahmin (harappa) @ 3.43
18 66.2% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 33.8% punjabi-jatt-muslim (harappa) @ 3.44
19 69.5% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 30.5% punjabi-ramgarhia (harappa) @ 3.56
20 56.7% iraqi-mandaean (harappa) + 43.3% pashtun (harappa) @ 3.57
Tehran iranian:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 34.92
2 Baloch 26.65
3 NE-Euro 10.66
4 SW-Asian 9.55
5 S-Indian 8.56
6 Mediterranean 5.28
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Beringian 0.93
9 W-African 0.9
10 E-African 0.61
11 NE-Asian 0.59
12 Papuan 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (harappa) 8.64
2 iranian (behar) 9.61
3 kurd (harappa) 10.1
4 turkmen (yunusbayev) 11.05
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 12.62
6 kurd (xing) 12.83
7 azeri (harappa) 13.11
8 turkish (harappa) 13.34
9 stalskoe (xing) 15.45
10 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 16.31
11 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 16.69
12 iraqi-arab (harappa) 16.73
13 kumyk (yunusbayev) 16.81
14 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 16.89
15 turk (behar) 16.92
16 armenian (harappa) 16.97
17 tajik (yunusbayev) 17.54
18 lezgin (behar) 18.15
19 turk-aydin (hodoglugil) 18.64
20 urkarah (xing) 18.96
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 77% kurd (harappa) + 23% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.76
2 71.4% azeri (harappa) + 28.6% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.79
3 67.6% turkish (harappa) + 32.4% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.8
4 68% azeri (harappa) + 32% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.82
5 71.6% azeri (harappa) + 28.4% punjabi-jatt-sikh (harappa) @ 3.86
6 65.5% turk (behar) + 34.5% bhatia (harappa) @ 3.88
7 71.5% azeri (harappa) + 28.5% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.91
8 80.3% iranian (harappa) + 19.7% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 3.91
9 61.8% turk (behar) + 38.2% pathan (hgdp) @ 3.92
10 71.1% turkish (harappa) + 28.9% bhatia (harappa) @ 4
11 60.3% azeri (harappa) + 39.7% pashtun (harappa) @ 4
12 59.6% assyrian (harappa) + 40.4% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.01
13 65.9% uzbekistan-jew (behar) + 34.1% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.05
14 67.3% turkish (harappa) + 32.7% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.06
15 61.9% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 38.1% pathan (hgdp) @ 4.07
16 65.6% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 34.4% bhatia (harappa) @ 4.08
17 69.8% azeri (harappa) + 30.2% sindhi (harappa) @ 4.15
18 58.2% azerbaijan-jew (behar) + 41.8% haryana-jatt (harappa) @ 4.16
19 59.9% turkish (harappa) + 40.1% pashtun (harappa) @ 4.17
20 61.4% turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) + 38.6% kalash (hgdp) @ 4.19
Might be bahrain arab due to reasons:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.61
2 Baloch 28.77
3 SW-Asian 13.47
4 S-Indian 8.09
5 NE-Euro 5.33
6 Mediterranean 3.47
7 Siberian 0.98
8 E-African 0.96
9 SE-Asian 0.64
10 Papuan 0.56
11 Beringian 0.13
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 iranian (behar) 4.96
2 iranian (harappa) 6
3 kurd (harappa) 6.98
4 kurd (xing) 9.05
5 kurd (yunusbayev) 9.62
6 turkish (harappa) 13.31
7 azeri (harappa) 13.34
8 uzbekistan-jew (behar) 13.55
9 iraqi-arab (harappa) 13.81
10 turkmen (yunusbayev) 14.58
11 armenian (harappa) 15.15
12 iraqi-mandaean (harappa) 16.99
13 turk-kayseri (hodoglugil) 17.85
14 turk (behar) 17.85
15 turk-istanbul (hodoglugil) 18.19
16 assyrian (harappa) 18.22
17 iranian-jew (behar) 18.41
18 kumyk (yunusbayev) 19.43
19 palestinian (harappa) 19.5
20 iraq-jew (behar) 19.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 60.9% iranian-jew (behar) + 39.1% kalash (hgdp) @ 2.01
2 84.7% kurd (xing) + 15.3% iyengar-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.07
3 85.3% kurd (xing) + 14.7% srivastava (reich) @ 2.11
4 84.4% kurd (xing) + 15.6% kerala-christian (harappa) @ 2.12
5 85.4% kurd (xing) + 14.6% kerala-muslim (harappa) @ 2.12
6 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% ap-brahmin (xing) @ 2.12
7 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% karnataka-brahmin (harappa) @ 2.12
8 85.9% kurd (xing) + 14.1% dharkar (metspalu) @ 2.13
9 85.1% kurd (xing) + 14.9% bihari (harappa) @ 2.13
10 84.9% kurd (xing) + 15.1% up (harappa) @ 2.13
11 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% meghawal (reich) @ 2.14
12 86.2% kurd (xing) + 13.8% kanjar (metspalu) @ 2.14
13 85.2% kurd (xing) + 14.8% singapore-indian-b (sgvp) @ 2.15
14 85.4% kurd (xing) + 14.6% tamil (harappa) @ 2.15
15 84.6% kurd (xing) + 15.4% rajasthani (harappa) @ 2.16
16 84.2% kurd (xing) + 15.8% maharashtrian (harappa) @ 2.17
17 82.5% kurd (xing) + 17.5% cochin-jew (behar) @ 2.17
18 85.8% kurd (xing) + 14.2% andhra-pradesh (harappa) @ 2.19
19 83.5% kurd (xing) + 16.5% bihari-muslim (harappa) @ 2.2
20 87% kurd (xing) + 13% naidu (reich) @ 2.2
Well, my personal interest is mainly for Steppe-related populations as well as groups from the former Soviet Union and stuff like that. But not limited to them of course.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
NO, Not true. Golestani does mean from Golestan province at all. No correlationQuote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Ok. Might be from mashdad iran or somewhere else thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Negah
Some of these results are off. And definetly mixed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
WHich ones?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Yes, urbanized Iran is mixed which is now 75% of Iran. Ethnicity is NOT a basis of marriage in Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Seems mixed ethnicityQuote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
What would they be mixed with?Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
You're sure the Shiraz one isn't originally from Afghanistan for example?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
The shiraz sample is originally from a study set and also this person seems too iranian to be from AFG. Honestly, apart from the SI and caucasian, the person doesnt seem different in the other components compared to most other iraniansQuote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Do Shi'ites and Sunnis intermarry in Iran? Are there conversions from Sunnism to Shi'ism?Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
Yea, iranians marry each other if Persian is spoken, which is majority of the country.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
He/She gets modelled as half Iranian half Pashtun on my Vahaduo runs. 30.17 Caucasian is not possible for ethnic Persian I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Are we talking about the golestani named sample or shiraz one?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
THe shiraz one gets like 35% caucasian and thats actually not really much lower compared to many iranians with half as much SI(many get 36-38%) and even higher than other iranians with far lower SI(ones would be from mashdad iran).
The one named golestani might be mixed though.
The one you send me in PM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Yeah, i agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
But im not sure though.
Religious lines are seldom breached in Iran especially since the Iranian revolution but even before it. Religion does matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I was shocked to see so many Armenians being married to non-Armenians when I came to California whereas in Iran I rarely saw any Christian (Assyrian, and Armenian) marry outside their groups only among each other.
Sunni and Shia are also not easy.
The Sunni Iranians are from isolated regions. Kurds from Kurdistan Province ( Kermanshahi are mainly Shias), Balochis, some coastal Persians and Arabs, and Turkmens.
With urbanized Turkmens, many have become Shias and Persianized. But religious affiliation does matter a lot more than ethnicity.
I agree wrt Sunni Shia and especially in my parents time, but now depending on the family off course it's less strict. With my family they don't care much as long as there's no language barrier and they are muslim. As Kurds we see other Iranians as our cousins so it's an even easier transition and if I wasn't married my parents wouldn't care too much if I married any ethnicity within Iran or Afghanistan or Pakistan for that matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Negah
I assume there is quite a bit of non Kurd to Kurd marriages within Iran especially in Shia Kurd areas such as Kermanshah or Khorasan but probably also Sunni Kurds too. Would that be a fair statement?
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Already posted it here before, but not on this thread.
Harappaworld spreadsheet with iranian and iraqi(+ other middleeastern samples) samples: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
A lot of these names are clearly not IranianQuote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
What would theyy be then? Could you point out which names arent iranian(apart from the ones with the arab sounding names)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
1. I would suggest to remove the names in the sheet when you post these on here. (I dont know if they would be ok with this)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
2. Only include the region when you are sure of it. (And if they confirmed it). You can put one "confirmed region" and another for "my guess". So that there are no misconceptions.
3. A lot of these names are Iraqi or arab. I was also suprised to find out how much Indian they scored when I looked up Southern Iraqi results.
Only the ones at the bottom you suspected to be iraqi or the ones between the iranians as well? I do think some of the "iranian" ones probably are arab.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
They were definetly arab and not even from Iran. If they would be from Iran the spelling would have been different. But names like "Al-Yousuf" or anything don't exist in Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Yeah, i agree. THose with the "al" in their usernames are 100% arab. THough the reason i took some of the arabs for "iranian arabs" is because the fact that many of them get iranian matches on gedmatch rather than iraqi or just other matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
You even labelled a good amount of them as "likely Iranian". Also it's not just about the "Al" Iranian names even those of arab tribesmen are written differently in general.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
Yes that's the interesting question. Why they score like that. Maybe they are the real descendants of the Elamites and Sumerians. I once did a average out of 20 confirmed southern Iraqi results and they were very Indian shifted. Will post it later when I find them.
But i dont do that for no reason. I label them as "Likely iranian" not necessarily as persian, but from Iran. ANd i do that because i found them under the matches of iranians. And they themselves get some iranian matches(not iraqi either, hence why i didnt add them there....but they might be from arabian area. Another sample placed around the iranian ones with very iranian results, apart from 8% SI, turned out to be from bahrain and seems to be an arab....so its hard to tell. But those types would be originally iranian).Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Also, they arent really far from the iranian reference on gedmatch, pretty close to it many times
Anyway, it be nice to see those southern iraqi results when you post them. But i think theyre most likely south asian shifted because gypsie ancestry(if theyre much more south asian shifted than iranians). Gypsies seems to be a thing in Iraq.
That's why I always say only confirmed ancestry results are relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
If you want to test for yourself. You should make averages out of confirmed results (n= at least 10) and make Vahaduo models with them. It helped me a lot with categorizing some strange results. For example some results you think of as "Khorasan" could be just Azeri+Persian (typical Tehran result)
Wouldn’t make sense because pretty much all the S Iraqi samples I’ve seen score decent S Indian. Can’t be that all S Iraqis are gypsies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nomansman
The more sensible explanation is like what kyp pointed out S Iraqis have Elamite ancestry because we knoe that’s where they moved to in addition to further east when they weee attacked ( you know the guys that spoke an extinct dravidian language and had alot of trading relationships with IVC). There could also be additional Indian admixture due to sea trade between persian gulf and India
The whole Eastern part of Iraq has traditionally been part of various persian empires that’s why the genetics in Iraq is different west of Euphrates river
To me S Iraqis even look Indian also
I changed the ones that could be azeris/partly azeris.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
But the other ones 100% seems to be from the norht east
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Originally Posted by Zoro
COuld be indian then.
And the ones i suggest being mixed arent the ones with 5-8% SI, im talking about the ones hitting 9%+ SI(but those would probs also be partly indian....not IVC i assume, because i would imagine that admix from such long time ago to be largely washed away and not have that much of an influence in iraqi admix)