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08-26-2020, 02:36 AM
Mingle

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Originally Posted by Leto

Hey Mingle. No it shouldn't be removed. I did it and don't think we should split such a small group into multiple ones. Let it remain.

They're small in population but have their own diversity. Ishkashimis score very differently from Rushanis. Their genetic diversity is comparable to European groups that have multiple different averages on the other calculators.
08-26-2020, 10:54 AM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mingle

They're small in population but have their own diversity. Ishkashimis score very differently from Rushanis. Their genetic diversity is comparable to European groups that have multiple different averages on the other calculators.

Mingle you gave Davidski those Afghan Pashtun samples???
08-26-2020, 11:38 AM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mingle

They're small in population but have their own diversity. Ishkashimis score very differently from Rushanis. Their genetic diversity is comparable to European groups that have multiple different averages on the other calculators.

They aren't so vastly different.
08-26-2020, 01:40 PM
Mingle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lucas

Mingle you gave Davidski those Afghan Pashtun samples???

I didn't give him any samples. The AFG Pashtuns he has are four samples from the Di Cristofaro study (included as part of the general "Pashtun" average - the other four "Pashtun" samples comprising the average are mainly outliers from HGDP). The other Pashtun averages like "Yusufzai", "Uthmankhel", and "Tarkalani" are from the Demgaard study.
08-26-2020, 06:22 PM
Aren

I created some time ago averages for Scandinavia. Only people with Gedcoms. N=25+ for all the averages. I havn't shared them, but since this became so popular you might aswell add them.

Spoiler!

Norway_South_Central,50.83,28.97,9.61,4.78,1.91,0. 62,0.94,0.11,0.63,0.68,0.56,0.13,0.23
Denmark,50.61,28.70,10.19,5.00,2.12,0.52,0.99,0.19 ,0.42,0.59,0.23,0.12,0.17
Sweden_Götaland,50.53,29.29,9.86,4.67,1.88,0.62,0. 93,0.21,0.69,0.55,0.41,0.18,0.2
Sweden_Svealand_West,49.72,30.6,9.57,4.11,1.75,0.4 6,1.03,0.19,1.05,0.53,0.45,0.27,0.27
Sweden_Svealand_East,46.74,34.13,8.85,3.92,1.19,0. 53,0.97,0.27,1.69,0.86,0.56,0.19,0.12

I have also averages for Assyrians and Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian Christians but can't find them atm.

Edit: used only two decimals as suggested.
08-26-2020, 07:31 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aren

I created some time ago averages for Scandinavia. Only people with Gedcoms. N=25+ for all the averages. I havn't shared them, but since this became so popular you might aswell add them.

Spoiler!

Norway_South_Central,50.83,28.97,9.61,4.78,1.91,0. 62,0.94,0.11,0.63,0.68,0.56,0.13,0.23
Denmark,50.61,28.70,10.19,5.00,2.12,0.52,0.99,0.19 ,0.42,0.59,0.23,0.12,0.17
Sweden_Götaland,50.53,29.29,9.86,4.67,1.88,0.62,0. 93,0.21,0.69,0.55,0.41,0.18,0.2
Sweden_Svealand_West,49.72,30.6,9.57,4.11,1.75,0.4 6,1.03,0.19,1.05,0.53,0.45,0.27,0.27
Sweden_Svealand_East,46.74,34.13,8.85,3.92,1.19,0. 53,0.97,0.27,1.69,0.86,0.56,0.19,0.12

I have also averages for Assyrians and Syrian, Lebanese and Palestinian Christians but can't find them atm.

Edit: used only two decimals as suggested.

Thanks. Added to K13.
08-27-2020, 10:11 PM
Leto

French & Swiss averages by Peterski. Lukasz, why do you reject 'em?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peterski

Eurogenes K13:

Code:

FRA_Central,42.40,18.28,20.55,4.81,9.80,1.59,0.49,0.26,0.36,0.46,0.37,0.38,0.24 FRA_Alsace,40.65,22.72,16.81,6.48,9.58,1.60,0.39,0.47,0.25,0.36,0.27,0.16,0.26 FRA_Armorica,48.53,22.11,15.45,5.52,4.38,1.00,1.19,0.25,0.31,0.59,0.29,0.22,0.17 FRA_Belgica,43.27,20.59,17.19,6.01,8.41,1.49,0.81,0.36,0.38,0.48,0.30,0.27,0.43 FRA_Septimania,41.77,14.33,26.39,2.70,10.79,1.43,0.55,0.18,0.26,0.58,0.53,0.33,0.17 FRA_Provence,35.19,14.10,22.05,6.40,17.59,2.34,0.36,0.26,0.26,0.40,0.37,0.42,0.24 FRA_Aquitania,48.61,8.24,32.74,0.95,5.49,1.52,0.92,0.35,0.26,0.27,0.31,0.20,0.14

Eurogenes K15:

Code:

FRA_Central,27.38,27.39,8.88,6.00,16.19,3.96,6.85,1.54,0.33,0.16,0.21,0.29,0.25,0.37,0.19 FRA_Alsace,28.49,24.36,12.31,7.12,12.76,5.91,6.23,1.50,0.20,0.31,0.14,0.20,0.14,0.13,0.19 FRA_Armorica,33.63,28.77,9.43,8.78,10.92,3.51,2.23,0.79,0.81,0.15,0.14,0.39,0.18,0.15,0.12 FRA_Belgica,30.06,25.90,9.94,7.14,13.16,4.86,5.19,1.51,0.65,0.21,0.22,0.33,0.20,0.26,0.38 FRA_Septimania,23.44,30.07,6.86,5.00,20.86,2.32,7.92,1.58,0.42,0.08,0.14,0.41,0.38,0.36,0.15 FRA_Provence,21.75,23.86,7.06,4.44,18.01,6.15,14.55,2.44,0.32,0.13,0.18,0.25,0.24,0.47,0.16 FRA_Aquitania,20.30,39.32,4.81,2.49,24.29,0.77,4.44,1.91,0.45,0.30,0.23,0.20,0.21,0.17,0.13

https://i.imgur.com/WwtEH3E.png

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Swiss German Eurogenes K13 and K15:

Code:

Swiss_German,41.14,21.44,17.58,6.72,10.25,1.25,0.30,0.10,0.30,0.38,0.36,0.11,0.08

Code:

Swiss_German,29.02,24.29,11.25,7.06,13.51,5.61,7.40,1.10,0.15,0.01,0.10,0.21,0.17,0.07,0.04
08-28-2020, 06:36 PM
Leto

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kyp

We also should reduce the amount of Kurdish samples, as they can take away too much space in top 25 populations:

Kurd,28.70,1.50,0.90,0.40,5.90,5.70,1.10,0.40,14.0 0,1.00,40.40,0.00
Kurd_KAZ,27.48,0.86,0.39,0.68,5.91,6.34,1.45,0.12, 13.92,0.16,42.69,0
Kurd_Kurmanji,24.19,1.39,1.15,0.18,8.64,7.09,2.59, 0.26,13.97,0.62,39.81,0.1
Kurd_Sorani,24.26,0.4,1.22,0.48,7.29,6.28,3.79,0.9 4,16,0.5,38.62,0.24
Kurds,28.20,0.60,0.00,0.60,6.30,6.70,0.80,0.10,14. 30,0.20,42.20,0.00

In my opinion we can delete "Kurd" and "Kurd_KAZ". "Kurd" looks like a bad old average and "Kurd_KAZ" is too irrelevant as they do not differ from other Kurds.

What are your thoughts on "Iranian", "Iranians"? Are they not redundant?
08-28-2020, 06:55 PM
Kyp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

What are your thoughts on "Iranian", "Iranians"? Are they not redundant?

Iran_Bandari,35.42,0.33,0.37,0.70,2.01,6.42,11.00, 1.81,11.25,0.00,25.24,5.46
Iran_Central_East,27.96,1.89,0.38,0.41,5.35,8.62,8 .65,0.55,12.57,0.81,33.71,0.24
Iran_Khorasan,26.72,2.83,0.00,0.52,5.58,9.43,7.49, 0.77,9.27,4.37,32.11,0.11
Iran_Mazandaran,31.99,0.58,0.22,0.38,2.85,6.87,5.9 0,0.47,11.19,0.00,39.51,0.14
Iranian,28.80,2.10,0.00,0.60,5.60,6.00,3.60,0.10,1 2.40,0.50,40.30,0.00
Iranian_Fars,27.45,0.89,1.31,0.74,5.59,6.25,6.10,1 .25,14.09,1.23,34.77,0.33
Iranian_Jews,18.80,0.40,1.80,0.40,6.80,0.00,0.00,0 .00,22.50,0.00,49.30,0.00
Iranians,30.90,1.00,0.90,0.30,5.90,4.20,4.20,0.90, 14.20,0.30,36.70,0.50

I think Iran_Central_East can be deleted as the sample size was too small for such a territory. I can also try to work on better averages in the coming days.

@Lucas: please delete "Iran_Central_East" and "Iranian" (it resembles Iranian_Fars)
08-28-2020, 07:22 PM
Lucas

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leto

French & Swiss averages by Peterski. Lukasz, why do you reject 'em?

https://media.tenor.com/images/dc5d3...709d/tenor.gif

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