Eastern and Central Euro K15 PCA

I will post a couple of mutts and maybe let's call it quits? Soon it's gonna become unreadable if we add more full Russians and Slavs. They would be clustering too tightly.

https://i.imgur.com/dAqhUyb.png

Vyanceslav (Russian) in Gray, unnumbered.

He plot almost on top of Dark Green no.35, they overlap.

Vyanceslav overlap Silentkiller, both TA members ? Could be brothers xD First is hair bit more SE than second.

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Originally Posted by Leto

I will post a couple of mutts and maybe let's call it quits? Soon it's gonna become unreadable if we add more full Russians and Slavs. They would be clustering too tightly.

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Having one PCA for all of Eastern and Central Europe didn't seem like a great idea. That's a pretty massive region and the PCA template being used is kinda tiny.

Kalmyk/Russian family

1. Father - full Kalmyk

Population
North_Sea -
Atlantic 4.14 Pct
Baltic -
Eastern_Euro 7.57 Pct
West_Med -
West_Asian 7.78 Pct
East_Med 0.26 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 2.74 Pct
Southeast_Asian 30.35 Pct
Siberian 45.14 Pct
Amerindian 1.42 Pct
Oceanian 0.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.20 Pct

2. Mother - full Russian (born in Perm, no more info but very pure Russian)

Population
North_Sea 20.29 Pct
Atlantic 15.05 Pct
Baltic 30.90 Pct
Eastern_Euro 20.82 Pct
West_Med 5.84 Pct
West_Asian 3.39 Pct
East_Med 1.43 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.64 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Siberian 0.98 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.07 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Spoiler!

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Southwest_Russian 3.74
2 Belorussian 3.74
3 Estonian_Polish 3.88
4 Russian_Smolensk 4
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.38
6 Polish 4.47
7 Ukrainian 4.74
8 South_Polish 5.13
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 5.89
10 Lithuanian 6.06
11 Estonian 7.19
12 Kargopol_Russian 8.96
13 Erzya 10.63
14 Croatian 11.14
15 East_Finnish 12.16
16 Finnish 12.87
17 Moldavian 13.04
18 Hungarian 13.87
19 Southwest_Finnish 14.1
20 Austrian 15.84

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 56.9% Ukrainian + 43.1% Lithuanian @ 1.8
2 57.5% Belorussian + 42.5% Ukrainian @ 1.97
3 56.4% Estonian_Polish + 43.6% Ukrainian @ 2
4 63.1% Estonian_Polish + 36.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.21
5 55.1% South_Polish + 44.9% Lithuanian @ 2.34
6 65.1% Belorussian + 34.9% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.39
7 69.8% Lithuanian + 30.2% Moldavian @ 2.42
8 50.9% Ukrainian_Lviv + 49.1% Lithuanian @ 2.54
9 59.7% Southwest_Russian + 40.3% Ukrainian @ 2.62
10 66.6% Lithuanian + 33.4% Croatian @ 2.72
11 61.3% Estonian_Polish + 38.7% South_Polish @ 2.77
12 63.6% Belorussian + 36.4% South_Polish @ 2.83
13 57.5% Russian_Smolensk + 42.5% Ukrainian @ 2.85
14 84.2% Belorussian + 15.8% Moldavian @ 2.89
15 78.4% Lithuanian + 21.6% Serbian @ 2.91
16 68.6% Southwest_Russian + 31.4% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.92
17 59.8% Southwest_Russian + 40.2% Polish @ 3
18 53.6% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 46.4% Ukrainian @ 3.02
19 72.1% Lithuanian + 27.9% Hungarian @ 3.04
20 65.5% Southwest_Russian + 34.5% South_Polish @ 3.05

3. Daughter - half Kalmyk, half Russian

Population
North_Sea 12.75 Pct
Atlantic 10.96 Pct
Baltic 11.45 Pct
Eastern_Euro 13.04 Pct
West_Med 2.96 Pct
West_Asian 6.48 Pct
East_Med 1.67 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.22 Pct
Southeast_Asian 14.22 Pct
Siberian 24.84 Pct
Amerindian -
Oceanian 0.41 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

4. Daughter's son - 1/4 Kalmyk, 1/4 Russian, 1/2 either Polish or Ukrainian or both

Population
North_Sea 20.29 Pct
Atlantic 12.29 Pct
Baltic 20.60 Pct
Eastern_Euro 14.99 Pct
West_Med 4.82 Pct
West_Asian 1.37 Pct
East_Med 3.94 Pct
Red_Sea 0.14 Pct
South_Asian 0.99 Pct
Southeast_Asian 6.40 Pct
Siberian 13.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.48 Pct
Oceanian 0.07 Pct
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.12 Pct

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Originally Posted by Nato

Vyanceslav overlap Silentkiller, both TA members ? Could be brothers xD First is hair bit more SE than second.

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Yes. SK is also from Vologda, but from the city. His parents were not born there though.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Yes. SK is also from Vologda, but from the city. His parents were not born there though.

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Do you have any sample from Volgograd (ex-Stalingrad) or vicinity ? Would be interesting to see Russians from Sochi area too.

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Originally Posted by Nato

Do you have any sample from Volgograd (ex-Stalingrad) or vicinity ? Would be interesting to see Russians from Sochi area too.

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Yes, I think there were some. However in the city proper most people are post WWII migrants and their children as it was almost completely destroyed. The region itself was populated in the 18th century, so quite lately.

Father:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 26.16
2 Eastern_Euro 20.5
3 Atlantic 19.28
4 North_Sea 17.02
5 West_Med 6.48
6 West_Asian 4.75
7 Siberian 1.96
8 East_Med 1.56
9 South_Asian 0.82
10 Red_Sea 0.7
11 Northeast_African 0.51
12 Sub-Saharan 0.15
13 Southeast_Asian 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 4.43
2 Polish 5.25
3 South_Polish 5.42
4 Southwest_Russian 5.96
5 Ukrainian_Belgorod 6.13
6 Estonian_Polish 6.17
7 Belorussian 6.94
8 Ukrainian 7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.64
10 Croatian 8.23
11 Kargopol_Russian 8.98
12 Estonian 10.73
13 Moldavian 11.03
14 Lithuanian 11.03
15 Austrian 11.78
16 East_Finnish 11.84
17 Erzya 11.87
18 Hungarian 12.04
19 Southwest_Finnish 12.92
20 Finnish 12.98

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 87% Southwest_Russian + 13% French_Basque @ 2.19
2 86.9% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 13.1% French_Basque @ 2.53
3 84.3% Southwest_Russian + 15.7% Southwest_French @ 2.62
4 85.8% Southwest_Russian + 14.2% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.79
5 85.2% Southwest_Russian + 14.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.85
6 85.6% Southwest_Russian + 14.4% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.86
7 85.7% Southwest_Russian + 14.3% Spanish_Andalucia @ 2.98
8 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 2.98
9 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.99
10 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Andalucia @ 3
11 84.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod + 15.8% Southwest_French @ 3
12 85.4% Southwest_Russian + 14.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.01
13 89.8% Russian_Smolensk + 10.2% Southwest_French @ 3.02
14 90.9% Russian_Smolensk + 9.1% Spanish_Aragon @ 3.05
15 92.1% Russian_Smolensk + 7.9% French_Basque @ 3.08
16 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.08
17 90.4% Russian_Smolensk + 9.6% Spanish_Extremadura @ 3.09
18 90.5% Russian_Smolensk + 9.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 3.12
19 90.2% Russian_Smolensk + 9.8% Portuguese @ 3.14
20 90% Russian_Smolensk + 10% Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.16

Son:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Baltic 28.67
2 Eastern_Euro 19.79
3 Atlantic 18.16
4 North_Sea 17.36
5 West_Asian 5.73
6 West_Med 4.91
7 Siberian 1.81
8 East_Med 1.47
9 South_Asian 1.12
10 Red_Sea 0.8
11 Northeast_African 0.1
12 Amerindian 0.09

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Russian_Smolensk 2.5
2 Ukrainian_Belgorod 4.21
3 Southwest_Russian 4.23
4 Estonian_Polish 4.92
5 Polish 5.03
6 Belorussian 5.13
7 South_Polish 5.17
8 Ukrainian 6.7
9 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.03
10 Lithuanian 8.85
11 Kargopol_Russian 9.13
12 Croatian 9.34
13 Estonian 9.66
14 Erzya 11.44
15 Moldavian 11.83
16 East_Finnish 12.46
17 Hungarian 12.99
18 Finnish 13.38
19 Austrian 13.38
20 Southwest_Finnish 13.81

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.8% Russian_Smolensk + 5.2% Nogay @ 1.43
2 95.3% Russian_Smolensk + 4.7% Afghan_Turkmen @ 1.47
3 90.7% Russian_Smolensk + 9.3% Tatar @ 1.51
4 95.7% Russian_Smolensk + 4.3% Uzbeki @ 1.63
5 96.2% Russian_Smolensk + 3.8% Hazara @ 1.66
6 95.9% Russian_Smolensk + 4.1% Afghan_Hazara @ 1.66
7 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Evens @ 1.67
8 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Yakut @ 1.67
9 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Dolgan @ 1.67
10 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Evenki @ 1.68
11 97.2% Russian_Smolensk + 2.8% Altaian @ 1.71
12 96.9% Russian_Smolensk + 3.1% Hakas @ 1.72
13 97.5% Russian_Smolensk + 2.5% Saqqaq @ 1.73
14 97.7% Russian_Smolensk + 2.3% Buryat @ 1.73
15 95.5% Russian_Smolensk + 4.5% Tadjik @ 1.73
16 96.8% Russian_Smolensk + 3.2% Shors @ 1.75
17 97.6% Russian_Smolensk + 2.4% Tuvinian @ 1.76
18 98% Russian_Smolensk + 2% Oroqen @ 1.76
19 97.4% Russian_Smolensk + 2.6% Ket @ 1.76
20 97.9% Russian_Smolensk + 2.1% Koryak @ 1.77

https://i.imgur.com/MqyJ2IC.png

42 - Kalmyk
Russian (Perm) unnumbered, in Light Pink
43 - Russian , Kalmyk
44 - Russian, Kalmyk, Polish, Ukrainian

From Amur oblast, Russian Far East.

Grandmother (seems full Russian)

Population
North_Sea 25.09 Pct
Atlantic 9.81 Pct
Baltic 28.16 Pct
Eastern_Euro 24.22 Pct
West_Med 3.88 Pct
West_Asian 5.44 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.29 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Siberian 1.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.21 Pct
Oceanian 0.28 Pct
Northeast_African 0.11 Pct
Sub-Saharan -

Mother (1/4 Chinese and also some other things, maybe Siberian or Chuvash/Tatar)

Population
North_Sea 11.12 Pct
Atlantic 8.65 Pct
Baltic 19.64 Pct
Eastern_Euro 18.48 Pct
West_Med 4.56 Pct
West_Asian 5.29 Pct
East_Med -
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 0.71 Pct
Southeast_Asian 20.65 Pct
Siberian 10.51 Pct
Amerindian 0.38 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan -

Daughter (her father seems to have been fully Russian - he's dead now)

Population
North_Sea 12.74 Pct
Atlantic 13.32 Pct
Baltic 25.94 Pct
Eastern_Euro 16.40 Pct
West_Med 3.90 Pct
West_Asian 5.41 Pct
East_Med 1.42 Pct
Red_Sea -
South_Asian 1.55 Pct
Southeast_Asian 12.02 Pct
Siberian 6.04 Pct
Amerindian 0.31 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 0.94 Pct