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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

If the majority of Sorbs/Serbs moved south in the 5th century, who's to say they didn't bring I-PH908 with them and create a founder effect in the Balkans? I-PH908 is equally non existent in the Belorussian triangle where it supposedly originates, it's something like 1%, with the rest of I2a being clades under Din-North.

The remaining Sorbs could easily of mixed with the R1a majority Slavs that surrounded them. Issue here is you're assuming the Sorbs of 2019 are identical to the Sorbs over 1500 years ago, and there's no evidence for this. Sorbs started speaking German by the 17th century, and most stopped speaking slavic by the 19th, but they're somehow representative of Proto Serbs 1500 years ago? Not to mention the centuries they spent under Polish rule, Bohemia, the mixing they undertook with Czechs.

I don't believe I-PH908 is "proto Serb" like Pribislav does, but this is a dishonest argument until we find White Serb samples from 500AD.

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The fact that even Romans sometimes called Serbs = Scythians and Sometimes = Triballians (Thracians) tells you exactly who the Serbs are.

When Serbs came in 6th century they went to Roman Imperator Heraclius and even Maurice who said: "I need to talk with delegation of Serbs and Croats, a Scythian Tribes who settled in Balkans"

So they were called Serbs in 6th century, but first Serbian kingdom was noted in 1050 A.D. Serbs lived 400 years as princedoms along with "Vlachs" aka Romans.

Now I ask you, Which Haplogroup was Roman if Romans lived in Dalmatia predominantly and around Belgrade and Sremska Mitrovica?

I2a1b-PH908 OBVIOUSLY!

Serbs that came, may have or may not have brought some of I2 but I think they were mostly R1a.

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Originally Posted by Bosniensis

I2a1 Serbs came from Northern Italy through France->Germany->czech republic->southern poland->Romania->Serbia, that is very much confirmed migration theory of I2 people.

Your reply is so 2008.

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It's changed now brother, did you not see the map I sent you?

We wuz in La Tène.

No barbarians here


https://mytrueancestry.com/img/SampleResults.jpg

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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

It's changed now brother, did you not see the map I sent you?

We wuz in La Tène.

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Celts right? La Tene were Celts or Gauls.

And Gauls were Romans from (Cisalpine Gaul) , they even participated in early Rome during formation period. (except those in Gaul)

Gauls, Southern Spaniards, Northern Italians were (I2a2, I2a1a, I2a1*) namely EXTINCT Western Mediterranean people (Sardinian like) -> which is why Rome moved to East.

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Originally Posted by Hulu

No barbarians here

https://imgur.com/a/kVehrSn

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You are more South than me, so is *****. I assume I would match more Northern samples.

That other calc Voskos posted also gave me more match with Northern samples and less with Mycanean.

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Originally Posted by Ayetooey

If the majority of Sorbs/Serbs moved south in the 5th century, who's to say they didn't bring I-PH908 with them and create a founder effect in the Balkans? I-PH908 is equally non existent in the Belorussian triangle where it supposedly originates, it's something like 1%, with the rest of I2a being clades under Din-North.

The remaining Sorbs could easily of mixed with the R1a majority Slavs that surrounded them. Issue here is you're assuming the Sorbs of 2019 are identical to the Sorbs over 1500 years ago, and there's no evidence for this. Sorbs started speaking German by the 17th century, and most stopped speaking slavic by the 19th, but they're somehow representative of Proto Serbs 1500 years ago? Not to mention the centuries they spent under Polish rule, Bohemia, the mixing they undertook with Czechs.

I don't believe I-PH908 is "proto Serb" like Pribislav does, but this is a dishonest argument until we find White Serb samples from 500AD.

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Serbian ethnonym came from R1a probably. I2-PH908 became Serbian long time ago, in 4th or 5th century.
In 7th century Serbs were already pred. I2-PH908.

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Originally Posted by Leto

Excuse my butting in in but you did mix with a North European woman and gladly displayed it on TA (photos and DNA results of the children). ;)

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Yeah, why not. Am I hurting the TA's resident incels' feelings?

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Originally Posted by El_Abominacion

https://i.gyazo.com/87f26d186ef40216...f9f2ab8be0.png

No ancient matches

https://i.gyazo.com/a652a0aebc33a9bd...724fdd611a.png

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Are you Albanian?

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Originally Posted by dosas

Good thing for your dad is that he can relocate to his homeland of Romania so easily, since both countries are in the EU, where he can reunite with his people, instead of lamenting his butthurt over the intrawebz via a representative.

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Again you presume. My father has never "lamented" anything to me. I have mentioned on here previously how he won't discuss his origins with me. What I know was told to me by my mother.
Thank you for your concern re relocating to Romania but he is quite happy living in Australia. Thank God he migrated to Australia and what I do know via my mother is that he hopes to never step foot in Greece again.
Now go away and keep living in your delusional world.

Awesome thread. Bosniensis is back, fighting everywhere just in ancient times