New improved World Medieval G25 unscaled calculator

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Originally Posted by magicalM

Can you do mine in the updated version please. Thanks for great effort!

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MartinB_scaled,0.127482,0.133034,0.052043,0.040375 ,0.039084,0.019801,0.010105,0.009461,-0.00409,-0.004374,-0.002273,0.004946,-0.002527,-0.000138,-0.004343,0.012729,0.02034,0.000253,0.009804,-0.000375,0.001373,-0.004081,0.003204,0.006266,-0.002754

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MartinB,0.0112,0.0131,0.0138,0.0125,0.0127,0.0071, 0.0043,0.0041,-0.002,-0.0024,-0.0014,0.0033,-0.0017,-0.0001,-0.0032,0.0096,0.0156,0.0002,0.0078,-0.0003,0.0011,-0.0033,0.0026,0.0052,-0.0023



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All your Germanic is going to Viking-Rus

[1] "distance%=1.3422"

MartinB

VIKING-RUS,28.8
SLAVIC,24.4
CELTIC,20.2
IBERIAN,8.8
GRECO-ROMAN,5.6
BALTIC,3.4
BALKAN,2.6
ALANIC,1.6
CELTIBERIAN,1
ARIAN,0.8
TARTESSIAN,0.8
JAPANESE,0.6
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.6
ANATOLIAN,0.4
AQUITANIAN,0.2
HUNNIC,0.2

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

[1] "distance%=0.6841"

Grace_unscaled

NORTHWEST-GERMANIC,43.2
CELTIC,22.6
VIKING-BRIT,15.8
CALEDONIAN,13.6
SOUTH-GERMANIC,1.8
HUNNIC,0.8
AQUITANIAN,0.4
TARTESSIAN,0.4
TURKIC,0.4
VIKING-FINN,0.4
ALANIC,0.2
BALKAN,0.2
CELTIBERIAN,0.2

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Could you post your updated spreadsheet? I don't see NORTHWEST-GERMANIC or CALEDONIAN on the original.

How do i find my coordenates?

How do I run it?

thanks xD

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Originally Posted by Peterski

When I say that people don't want to do it, what I mean is that NW Europeans are really obsessed about claiming that it is impossible to tell apart Celtic and Germanic. They don't want to know how Celtic they are, they want to be told that Celtic and Germanic are indistinguishable categories.

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You put your thoughts and politics on to things and then project these on to others.. It's not that people don't want to be told anything it is patently obvious that populations i.e. Northwestern European are very close and that some of these components can go one way of the other.

I've just run myself with this using the FreeForm nMonte Runner and this is my result

"sample": "Test1:Grace_unscaled",
"fit": 0.5821,
"GERMANIC_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 32.5,
"CELTIC_England_Roman": 21.67,
"VIKING-BRIT_Sweden_Viking_Age_Sigtuna": 20.83,
"CELTIC_England_IA": 19.17,
"CELTIC_Hungary_Medieval_Szolad": 1.67,
"GERMANIC_Italy_Medieval_Collegno": 1.67,
"HUNNIC_Hun_Tian_Shan": 1.67,
"HUNNIC_Wusun": 0.83,

Is it the labelling? I don't have an agenda and I just report what I've observed through the years. Last time I looked the Irish cluster with British, Dutch, Scandinavians etc. Some of these labels i.e. Anglo-Saxon, Celts, Germanics etc are more about identity and I think people should have more an open mind when it comes to genetics.

What exactly is Celtic? You should use your skills then to try and prove that you can separate these populations and stop trying to make statements that are obviously not correct. Do you really think people don't want to be Celtic and want to be Germanic? These are your interpretations and coming from your own biases.

Or maybe I'm taking your post up incorrectly.

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Originally Posted by Peterski

When I say that people don't want to do it, what I mean is that NW Europeans are really obsessed about claiming that it is impossible to tell apart Celtic and Germanic. They don't want to know how Celtic they are, they want to be told that Celtic and Germanic are indistinguishable categories.

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I don't think it has anything to do with obsession but with a basic fact that it is difficult to distinguish Celts from Germans. Most Celts and Germans have Bell Beaker ancestry which makes them very similar genetically.

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

I don't think it has anything to do with obsession but with a basic fact that it is difficult to distinguish Celts from Germans. Most Celts and Germans have Bell Beaker ancestry which makes them very similar genetically.

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We are Gaels celticdragongod. That is something that is only related to Ireland and Western Scotland so a much more disambiguous term for our people. :)

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

We are Gaels celticdragongod. That is something that is only related to Ireland and Western Scotland so a much more disambiguous term for our people. :)

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But the Gaels are descended from the Bell Beakers.

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Originally Posted by celticdragongod

But the Gaels are descended from the Bell Beakers.

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Yes of course they are but instead of using terms like Celtic, Germanic etc I use Gael as a descriptor for my tribal identity. This is what the Irish are i.e. Gaels. Gael is a more personal identifier than Celt which is more ambiguous to me. It remains to be seen how much Celtic blood the Irish do in fact have. We are still Celts by culture and language however but being a Gael is specifically Irish.

Flemish/Dalmatian

CELTIBERIAN,16.2
SLAVIC,14.4
CELTIC,11
VIKING-PRUSSIAN,10.2
LONGOBARD,9.4
ILLYRIAN-THRACIAN,8.4
GERMANIC,4.6
IBERIAN,3.6
BALTIC,2.4
LEVANTINE,2.2
GRECO-ROMAN,2
TARTESSIAN,2
VIKING-EAST,1.6
AQUITANIAN,1.4
INGRIA,1.4
BALTIC-INGRIA,1.2
KANGJU,1.2
ANATOLIAN,1
JAPANESE,1
OTTOMAN,1
VIKING-FINNIC,0.8
VIKING-WEST,0.8
VISIGOTH,0.8
ALANIC,0.4
LUSITANIAN,0.4
ARIAN,0.2
PRE-VIKING,0.2
SOUTH_AFRICAN,0.2

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Originally Posted by ph2ter

All your Germanic is going to Viking-Rus

[1] "distance%=1.3422"

MartinB

VIKING-RUS,28.8
SLAVIC,24.4
CELTIC,20.2
IBERIAN,8.8
GRECO-ROMAN,5.6
BALTIC,3.4
BALKAN,2.6
ALANIC,1.6
CELTIBERIAN,1
ARIAN,0.8
TARTESSIAN,0.8
JAPANESE,0.6
SOUTHEAST-ASIA,0.6
ANATOLIAN,0.4
AQUITANIAN,0.2
HUNNIC,0.2

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mate could you please run for my papa

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Burak_scaled,0.118376,0.110693,0.008674,-0.010982,0.005539,0,0.00235,0.004384,-0.001432,-0.000182,0.002273,-0.003747,0.001784,0.006055,-0.018322,0.008751,0.020601,-0.009502,-0.000503,0.003001,-0.009608,0.004204,0.001479,0.001205,0.000239

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Burak,0.0104,0.0109,0.0023,-0.0034,0.0018,0,0.001,0.0019,-0.0007,-0.0001,0.0014,-0.0025,0.0012,0.0044,-0.0135,0.0066,0.0158,-0.0075,-0.0004,0.0024,-0.0077,0.0034,0.0012,0.001,0.0002

thanks