Are light traits in Southern Europe due to the northern European admixture ?

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

I suppose that's for european spanish influence...

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That india I dont think she has spanish influence, frankly.

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

I suppose that's for european spanish influence...

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This picture was taken in the early 90s and this girl is from a guanary tribe in the brazilian-paraguayan border...this tribe firstly met the ''civilization'' in 1985 so i really doubt that there are any euro influences...

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Originally Posted by Zarathustra

I suppose that's for european spanish influence...

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She is from Brazil. And looks 100% native.

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Originally Posted by Lábaru

Is normal that Iberia to have a high tolerance to lactose because genetically is the area of ​​southern Europe with more genes from central/Atlantic area and northern Europe.

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the question is when these genes appeared in Iberia ? :confused: from what i know in S.Europe the first migrations from the North since at least the mesolithic happened during the late copper age/early bronze age with the indoeuropeans :

early bronze age - Bell Beaker reflux from C.Europe (Proto-Celts ?)
late bronze age - Urnfield expansion from C.Europe (Proto-Celts , Italics , Illyrians ,Phrygians etc..)
early iron age - Hallstatt expansion (Celts)

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Originally Posted by Lábaru

Anyway every map says something different, not very realiable.
http://i43.tinypic.com/2m41smo.gif

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Spare me your sarcasm. That map is unsourced and so unreliable.

Here is the source of the map posted by me.

A worldwide correlation of lactase persistence phenotype and genotypes
Yuval Itan1,2*, Bryony L Jones1, Catherine JE Ingram1, Dallas M Swallow1 and Mark G Thomas1,2,3

http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/10/36

http://www.jacn.org/content/19/suppl.../F1.medium.gif
http://www.jacn.org/content/19/suppl_2/165S.full

^ That study looks like a mess. Apparently they have computed the average value from these 2 studies: De Ritis et al 1983 and Cavalli Sforza et al 1987.

http://ajcn.nutrition.org/content/48...e2=tf_ipsecsha

Btw it's obvious that Ritis et al with only 9 samples is not very reliabe. Cavalli Sforza gives the value of 41% for S.Italians.

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Originally Posted by Solin

If 10% of SWA can make someone look Arab

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... And where is the proof of this exactly?

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

This picture was taken in the early 90s and this girl is from a guanary tribe in the brazilian-paraguayan border...this tribe firstly met the ''civilization'' in 1985 so i really doubt that there are any euro influences...

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leucism

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

About 55% of our population is composed by second-third generation southerners.

But, since the datas about eye colors are from a study of 1910, they were right.

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Indeed, ethnic northern italians are considerably lighter than southern ones. Many venetians, piedmontese lombards or friulians i have met resemble austrians or swiss.