Both have chinky y-dna. Rurik N1c1 and the Ukrainain mongol probs has R1a. Asian brotherhood. :rolleyes:
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Yeah, I mean with my R1b-U152 it confirmed my paternal line, father to son, has been in in the N. Italy area for a few thousand years so that was pretty neat... as for my X2d mtDNA, it added a little mystery to the equation heh.
Haplogroups don't mean anything. You could have a black Grandmother and still get R1B haplogroup, doesn't mean you're white.
They are for long term population migration studies, not for autosomal studies. Much like an individuals autosomal DNA have little bearing when describing a population. If you have R1b, your father had it, and his father, and his father .. etc. back until the first person to have the specific branch of R1b you carry.