It's literally being more Anatolia_Neolithic shifted while you are more Iranian_Neolithic shifted. And I am being slightly more Euro shifted. Not a big suprise thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
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It's literally being more Anatolia_Neolithic shifted while you are more Iranian_Neolithic shifted. And I am being slightly more Euro shifted. Not a big suprise thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Dr_Maul
Dodecad K12b is very old though and doesn't really take into account ancient structures such as Iranian Neolithic. Same with HarrapaWorld. I am generally not a fan of calculators that use modern populations as refference for components. What does Armenian or South Central Asian actually mean. Though? Armenian is literally Iranian Neolithic/CHG with Anatolian Neolithic. South_Central Asian is basically Iran_Neolithic imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
But here are my Harrapa World results
Population
S-Indian 1.37 Pct
Baloch 25.86 Pct
Caucasian 42.77 Pct
NE-Euro 6.13 Pct
SE-Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.85 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 7.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.75 Pct
San -
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.14 Pct
W-African 0.04 Pct
Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 26.34 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.66 Pct
North_European 6.11 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.39 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 40.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct
Nah, they're still useful and can be made sense of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Demhat
Distance to: DemhatQuote:
But here are my Harrapa World results
Population
S-Indian 1.37 Pct
Baloch 25.86 Pct
Caucasian 42.77 Pct
NE-Euro 6.13 Pct
SE-Asian 0.51 Pct
Siberian 0.13 Pct
NE-Asian -
Papuan -
American 1.85 Pct
Beringian -
Mediterranean 7.37 Pct
SW-Asian 13.75 Pct
San -
E-African 0.17 Pct
Pygmy 0.14 Pct
W-African 0.04 Pct
3.67951084 kurd
3.74933327 kurd
4.03778405 kurd
5.61879880 iranian
6.46827643 iranian
8.18413710 uzbekistan-jew
8.49138387 turkish
9.55219870 azeri
9.81123336 armenian
12.93327878 turk-kayseri
12.97366949 assyrian
13.01053035 turk
13.01438435 iraqi-mandaean
13.26231503 iraqi-arab
13.81662404 turk-istanbul
14.27165723 iranian-jew
15.01089271 azerbaijan-jew
15.46046571 georgia-jew
15.73132226 iraq-jew
16.55142894 north-ossetian
Target: Demhat
Distance: 2.0817% / 2.08168896 | ADC: 0.5x
97.2 kurd
1.4 ashkenazy-jew
1.4 colombian
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.2633% / 1.26325112 | ADC: 0.25x
93.2 kurd
3.4 morocco-jew
3.2 colombian
0.2 italian
Distance to: DemhatQuote:
Dodecad K12b
Gedrosia 26.34 Pct
Siberian 0.58 Pct
Northwest_African -
Southeast_Asian 0.67 Pct
Atlantic_Med 8.66 Pct
North_European 6.11 Pct
South_Asian 1.57 Pct
East_African 0.39 Pct
Southwest_Asian 14.47 Pct
East_Asian 0.09 Pct
Caucasus 40.86 Pct
Sub_Saharan 0.26 Pct
3.22420533 Zaza
3.24319287 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.45887265 Kurds
4.07845559 Kurd
4.35341245 Talysh_Azerbaijan
4.53287988 Kurd_Sorani
4.63850191 Lur_Iran
5.17511353 Iranian
5.69068537 Turkmen_Iraq
6.79525570 Azerbaijani_Iran
7.60524819 Iranians
8.29860229 Azerbaijani
8.42081944 Azerbaijani_Turkey
8.50242318 Iranian_Fars
8.84035067 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.88672848 Iran_Mazandaran
10.29994660 Turk_Southeast
10.35815138 Turk_East
11.27882973 Iran_Central_East
11.44012675 Armenian_East
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.7262% / 1.72624659 | ADC: 1x
49.4 Kurd_Kurmanji
44.6 Kurds
6.0 Zaza
Target: Demhat
Distance: 1.5507% / 1.55074968 | ADC: 0.5x
49.4 Kurds
45.6 Kurd_Kurmanji
3.2 Zaza
1.2 Lur_Iran
0.4 Sardinian
0.2 Turkmen_Iraq
Target: Demhat
Distance: 0.7699% / 0.76994795 | ADC: 0.25x
61.4 Kurds
11.2 Zaza
8.4 Kurd_Sorani
7.4 Lur_Iran
5.2 Kurd_Kurmanji
4.2 Turkmen_Iraq
2.2 Sardinian
New found kits:
Iranian Azeri #1:
Gedrosian: 18.47
Siberian: 3.63
Northwest_African: 0.87
Southeast_Asian: 1.92
Atlantic_Med: 7.93
North_European: 8.72
South_Asian 3.02
East_African 0.29
Southwest_Asian: 11.46
East_Asian: 2.86
Caucasian: 40.46
SSA: 0.38
Distance to: Azer_IR
2.88674557 Azerbaijani_Turkey
3.94967087 Azerbaijani
4.24509128 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.83551445 Turk_Southeast
5.68727527 Turk_Central_East
6.59331480 Turk_South
6.81266468 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
6.97355003 Turk_East
7.43526731 Zaza
7.48380919 Kurd_Kurmanji
7.83309007 Turk_Anatolia
8.21269749 Turk_Central_West
8.24012136 Turkmen_Iraq
8.27105193 Talysh_Azerbaijan
9.11691285 Kurd_Sorani
10.41511882 Turk_West_BlackSea
10.81427298 Turk_Southwest
10.87364244 Uzbekistan_Jews
11.01446776 Kurd_KAZ
11.27203176 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
11.32641161 Armenian_East
11.46176688 Iranian
11.66164654 Lur_Iran
11.67767528 Kurds
12.23613092 Yoruk
Target: Azer_iran1
Distance: 1.1080% / 1.10796477 | ADC: 0.25x
88.4 Azerbaijani_Turkey
5.4 Balkars
2.4 Samaritians
1.8 Yemenese
1.0 Cambodians
0.6 BONDA
0.4 Nganassan
Iranian Azeri #2:
Gedrosian: 20.56
Siberian: 1.04
Northwest_African: 2.73
Southeast_Asian: 0.57
Atlantic_Med: 7.31
North_European: 7.84
South_Asian 2.10
East_African 0.16
Southwest_Asian: 12.31
East_Asian: 3.67
Caucasian: 41.70
SSA: 0.00
Distance to: Azer_Ir2
4.04051977 Azerbaijani_Iran
4.08368706 Azerbaijani_Turkey
4.85381293 Azerbaijani
5.33709659 Zaza
5.84547688 Kurd_Kurmanji
6.11788362 Talysh_Azerbaijan
6.51926376 Turk_Southeast
6.65935432 Turk_East
6.77918874 Turkmen_Iraq
7.44951676 Kurd_Sorani
8.02894140 Turk_Central_East
8.59842427 Kurd_KAZ
9.04053649 Uzbekistan_Jews
9.28877279 Kurds
9.48597913 Turk_South
9.67676599 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
9.76323717 Lur_Iran
9.85166483 Iranian
9.91626946 Armenian_East
10.62929443 Turk_Anatolia
10.79758306 Turk_Central_West
11.37850166 Iranian_Fars
11.45619920 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.33514491 Armenian_West
12.64413303 Turk_Ahiska
Target: Azer_Ir2
Distance: 1.4936% / 1.49357422 | ADC: 0.25x
74.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
14.6 Turk_Ahiska
8.6 Georgia_Jews
1.2 Mozabite
0.8 Japanese
0.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
Farsi:
Gedrosian: 31.71
Siberian: 0.26
Northwest_African: 0.00
Southeast_Asian: 0.00
Atlantic_Med: 7.58
North_European: 8.26
South_Asian 5.41
East_African 0.45
Southwest_Asian: 12.29
East_Asian: 0.32
Caucasian: 32.90
SSA: 0.82
Distance to: Farsi218
5.82692028 Iran_Central_East
6.14244251 Iranian_Fars
6.42395517 Iranians
8.25979419 Iran_Khorasan
8.38963646 Iran_Mazandaran
8.95082119 Iranian
9.25059458 Lur_Iran
10.53381223 Kurd_Sorani
10.99282038 Kurd_Kurmanji
11.37801389 Kurds
11.46799023 Talysh_Azerbaijan
11.84618926 Kurd_KAZ
12.40358416 Azerbaijani_Iran
12.66789248 Zaza
12.77862669 Iran_Bandari
12.82048751 Parsi_India
12.89597999 Turkmen_Iraq
13.12090317 Turkmens
13.29721775 Azerbaijani
14.62985304 Azerbaijani_Turkey
15.03464665 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
15.15422053 Turkmen_Iran
15.98666632 Turk_Southeast
18.94442398 Uzbekistan_Jews
19.25350617 Turk_South
Target: Farsi218
Distance: 1.8012% / 1.80117993 | ADC: 0.25x
65.8 Iranians
13.0 Iran_Central_East
8.6 Yagnobi
4.0 Iran_Bandari
3.2 Argyll
3.0 Iran_Mazandaran
2.4 Balochi
Don't know how dead this post is but here's me and my family's results I guess. Even though I think I've probably already been posted by someone else on this thread lol.
Me (37.5% Bakhtiari 37.5% Qashqai 25% Southern Iranian(Fars,Bushrer, Khuzestan)
Dodecad 12b
1 Caucasus 37.48
2 Gedrosia 28.77
3 Southwest_Asian 13.42
4 North_European 6.02
5 South_Asian 5.07
6 Atlantic_Med 4.88
7 Sub_Saharan 2.24
8 Southeast_Asian 1.05
9 East_Asian 0.67
10 Siberian 0.33
11 East_African 0.07
1 89% Kurds (Yunusbayev) + 11% Cochin_Jews (Behar) @ 3.16
1 Abhkasians_Yunusbayev + Iranian_Dodecad + Makrani_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.861116
.25X
32.8 Iranian_Fars
31.6 Iran_Mazandaran
20.4 Lur_Iran
9.8 Kurds
3.8 Iranians
1.4 Yoruba
0.2 YRI30
.5X
36.6 Iranian_Fars
23.8 Iranian
17.0 Iran_Mazandaran
14.2 Iranians
7.8 Lur_Iran
0.4 Yoruba
0.2 YRI30
1X
37.8 Iranian_Fars
33.2 Iranian
29.0 Iranians
Mom (3/4 Bakhtiari 1/4 Qashqai)
1 Caucasus 38.13
2 Gedrosia 28.3
3 Southwest_Asian 15
4 Atlantic_Med 5.13
5 South_Asian 4.88
6 North_European 4.86
7 Southeast_Asian 1.86
8 East_African 0.78
9 Sub_Saharan 0.7
10 Siberian 0.35
1 81.3% Iranians (Behar) + 18.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 2.62
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Iranian_Jews_Behar + Kurds_Yunusbayev + Pathan_HGDP @ 2.545645
.25X
52.4 Lur_Iran
23.0 Iran_Mazandaran
15.6 Iranians
5.0 Kurd_Sorani
1.6 Saudis
1.2 Cambodians
1.0 Iranian_Fars
0.2 Yemenese
.5X
66.0 Lur_Iran
24.4 Iranian_Fars
6.0 Iranians
3.6 Iran_Mazandaran
1x
81.2 Lur_Iran
15.6 Iranian_Fars
3.2 Iranians
PATERNAL AUNT (1/2 Qashqai 1/2 Southern Iranian)
1 Caucasus 35.65
2 Gedrosia 26.54
3 Southwest_Asian 14.09
4 North_European 8.18
5 South_Asian 6.03
6 Atlantic_Med 4.65
7 Sub_Saharan 2.22
8 Siberian 1.03
9 East_African 1.02
10 Northwest_African 0.59
1 93% Iranians (Behar) + 7% Russian_B (Behar) @ 4.07
1 Iranian_Jews_Behar + Lezgins_Behar + Pathan_HGDP + Syrians_Behar @ 2.876162
.25x
63.8 Iranian_Fars
17.4 Iran_Mazandaran
10.4 Kurd_Sorani
3.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
1.8 Yemenese
1.4 Tabasaran
1.2 Yoruba
1.0 Lithuanian
.5x
89.6 Iranian_Fars
8.0 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
2.0 Kurd_Sorani
0.4 YRI30
1x
100.0 Iranian_Fars
Does anyone have any confirmed pure Qashqai kits? I have a kit that I match with that is half Qashqai half European (I'm only certain he's Qashqai because his last name is literally Qashqai lol). I also have a few kits that I suspect of being Qashqai by can not be sure.
no unfortunately. Mind sharing the half Qashqai result (dodecadk12b)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saba
My Kit JK4935531
Zaza from Turkey
Dodecad K7b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 50.61
2 Southern 29.81
3 Atlantic_Baltic 10.9
4 South_Asian 6.58
5 Siberian 1.07
6 African 1.03
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Iranians (Behar) 3.45
2 Kurd (Dodecad) 3.71
3 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 3.99
4 Iranian (Dodecad) 4.46
5 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 6.57
6 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 8.02
7 Armenians (Behar) 8.57
8 Armenian (Dodecad) 9.26
9 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 9.49
10 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 10.69
11 Assyrian (Dodecad) 10.9
12 Turks (Behar) 11.64
13 Turkish (Dodecad) 12.06
14 Georgians (Behar) 12.56
15 Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) 12.71
16 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.66
17 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 15.56
18 Adygei (HGDP) 17.02
19 Balkars (Yunusbayev) 17.04
20 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 17.13
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 86.6% Iranians (Behar) + 13.4% Cypriots (Behar) @ 1.12
2 81.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.6% Druze (HGDP) @ 1.27
3 90.2% Iranians (Behar) + 9.8% Sephardic_Jews (Behar) @ 1.28
4 81.3% Iranian (Dodecad) + 18.7% Lebanese (Behar) @ 1.29
5 80.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 19.1% Syrians (Behar) @ 1.33
6 85.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 14.5% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 1.42
7 91.1% Iranians (Behar) + 8.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) @ 1.42
8 91.2% Iranians (Behar) + 8.8% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 1.44
9 91.5% Iranians (Behar) + 8.5% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.44
10 91.3% Iranians (Behar) + 8.7% Sicilian (Dodecad) @ 1.45
11 84.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 15.4% Jordanians (Behar) @ 1.45
12 88.5% Iranian (Dodecad) + 11.5% Bedouin (HGDP) @ 1.48
13 91.2% Iranians (Behar) + 8.8% Morocco_Jews (Behar) @ 1.48
14 78.9% Armenian (Dodecad) + 21.1% Pathan (HGDP) @ 1.53
15 79.6% Iranians (Behar) + 20.4% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.57
16 90.9% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.1% Saudis (Behar) @ 1.58
17 90.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 9.6% Yemen_Jews (Behar) @ 1.59
18 95.3% Iranians (Behar) + 4.7% Sardinian (HGDP) @ 1.6
19 87.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 12.8% Samaritians (Behar) @ 1.63
20 80.8% Armenian (Dodecad) + 19.2% Burusho (HGDP) @ 1.66
Dodecad K12b
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Caucasus 42.63
2 Gedrosia 23.26
3 Southwest_Asian 15.31
4 North_European 7.91
5 Atlantic_Med 4.28
6 South_Asian 3.97
7 East_African 1.15
8 Siberian 1.08
9 Northwest_African 0.42
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Kurds (Yunusbayev) 6.13
2 Iranian (Dodecad) 6.75
3 Kurd (Dodecad) 6.81
4 Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) 7.15
5 Iranians (Behar) 9.61
6 Turks (Behar) 11.88
7 Georgia_Jews (Behar) 12.54
8 Azerbaijan_Jews (Behar) 12.98
9 Iranian_Jews (Behar) 13.19
10 Assyrian (Dodecad) 13.65
11 Armenians_15 (Yunusbayev) 14.45
12 Turkish (Dodecad) 14.51
13 Iraq_Jews (Behar) 14.95
14 Armenian (Dodecad) 15.57
15 Kumyks (Yunusbayev) 16.93
16 Lebanese (Behar) 17.03
17 Turkmens (Yunusbayev) 18.59
18 Armenians (Behar) 18.87
19 Syrians (Behar) 18.94
20 Druze (HGDP) 19.51
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 76.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.22
2 87% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 13% Pathan (HGDP) @ 3.86
3 78.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 21.3% Burusho (HGDP) @ 3.87
4 80.3% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 19.7% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 3.89
5 52.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 47.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) @ 4.02
6 88.2% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 11.8% Burusho (HGDP) @ 4.07
7 83.1% Iranian (Dodecad) + 16.9% Samaritians (Behar) @ 4.09
8 83.7% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 16.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.18
9 89.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 10.6% Jatt (Dodecad) @ 4.21
10 71.7% Georgia_Jews (Behar) + 28.3% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 4.23
11 69.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 30.8% Georgia_Jews (Behar) @ 4.25
12 78.6% Iranian (Dodecad) + 21.4% Druze (HGDP) @ 4.33
13 76.4% Iranian (Dodecad) + 23.6% Lebanese (Behar) @ 4.45
14 79% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 21% Lezgins (Behar) @ 4.53
15 91% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9% Brahmins_from_Uttar_Pradesh (Metspalu) @ 4.61
16 76.8% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 23.2% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 4.64
17 83% Iranian (Dodecad) + 17% Palestinian (HGDP) @ 4.67
18 79.2% Iranian (Dodecad) + 20.8% Syrians (Behar) @ 4.71
19 90.4% Uzbekistan_Jews (Behar) + 9.6% Sindhi (HGDP) @ 4.72
20 74.8% Iranian (Dodecad) + 25.2% Iraq_Jews (Behar) @ 4.78
Docedad K7b is most better for me
call me crazy but I looked him up on Facebook and found out his mom was half German half Scottish. His dad comes from a very traditional and prideful Qashqai family. His results very clearly show some kind of Turkic descent as he has pretty large amount of East Asian for someone who is half Western Euro; I think if Azeri was a reference population it would say he is half Azeri. Interestingly my Aunt does not really show much East Asian even though she is also half Qashqai the only thing that stands out from a normal Southern Iranian is a high amount of North Euro/Steppe. But I think it just goes to show that the Qashqai is made of many ethnicities. My Aunt probably comes from the Iranic groups while he comes from the original Turkic groups.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyp Snow
Gedrosia 16.88 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 0.77 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.61 Pct
Atlantic_Med 22.56 Pct
North_European 26.59 Pct
South_Asian 1.16 Pct
East_African 0.38 Pct
Southwest_Asian 6.27 Pct
East_Asian 1.68 Pct
Caucasus 23.12 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
1 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.88
2 51.8% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.2% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.89
3 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 2.9
4 53.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.4% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 2.9
5 51.7% Dutch (Dodecad) + 48.3% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.08
6 53.4% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 46.6% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 3.11
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +50% Kurds_Yunusbayev @ 3.226308
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Dutch_Dodecad +25% Iranians_Behar +25% Turks_Behar @ 2.023003
Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turks_Behar @ 1.629055
2 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orcadian_HGDP + Turks_Behar @ 1.734436
3 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Orkney_1000Genomes + Turks_Behar @ 1.743141
4 German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Irish_Dodecad + Turks_Behar @ 1.761278
5 Argyll_1000Genomes + German_Dodecad + Iranians_Behar + Turkish_Dodecad @ 1.873659
to further prove how crazy I am I did some calculation in order to remove the European (argyll+german averaged) from his results in order to get an idea of what his dad's results might look like. Obviously, this highly questionable accuracy the curiosity was killing me though.
qashqai,23.56,0,1.54,1.22,8.07,6.48,2.32,.76,12.54 ,3.36,41.09,0
.25x
75.6 Zaza
20.2 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2.4 Chinese
1.0 Georgian_Adjara
0.4 Japanese
0.4 Mozabite
.5x
60.2 Zaza
18.8 Azerbaijani_Iran
18.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
1.2 Chinese
1.0 Turkmen_Iraq
1x
61.0 Zaza
32.2 Azerbaijani_Iran
6.8 Talysh_Azerbaijan
2x
91.0 Zaza
9.0 Azerbaijani_Iran
Would love to see more Qashqai tested. Some clearly show East Eurasian input in their phenotypeQuote:
Originally Posted by Saba
Would love to see more Qashqai tested. Some clearly show East Eurasian input in their phenotype, while most look Iranian. I wonder how homogenous they are, considering they are made up of different ethnic tribesQuote:
Originally Posted by Saba
What does that person look like? Can they pass as white European?Quote:
Originally Posted by Saba
I would say he looks pretty European since he as blue-green eyes, fair skin, light golden brown hair, reddish beard. Though I personally could tell he's Iranian looking at him because I know what Iranians look like. To the average white person he probably just looks like a white guy with a bigger nose lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That's probably a pretty Aryan look, haha. I guess you don't feel like sharing the link to his page.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saba
Here is a list of people I suspect of being Qashqai heritage. They are Iranains who matched the half Qashqai kit I posted and they have last names that might suggest Qashqai origins not 100% sure they are pure. They also match pretty well with the estimated Qashqai numbers I made.
SORRY I am too lazy to run all there kits through GEDmatch again but here is the numbers for Vahaduo Dodecad 12b (I put a star next to the ones I have highest confidence in) ( DM me and I can send you the kit numbers)
*omar, 25.88,1.04,.92,.44,7.66,5.44,5.06,0,13.1,1.59,38.3 5,.51
*fbagh,27.54,.78,0,0,6.7,8.19,3.05,.39,13.01,.91,3 9.32,.09
*vaseg,26.95,1.15,0,0,7.65,7.11,5.52,.86,12.06,.54 ,38.16,0
*eskan,25.93,.53,.92,.18,4.44,8.4,5.98,1.17,11.51, 2.63,38.26,.09
*abaz,25.53,1.77,1.16,0,7.54,6.59,3.83,1.24,14.12, 1.78,36.44,0
Lot,25.33,1.96,.5,1.4,6.96,9.68,4.5,.15,11.81,0,37 .61,.11
jahan,27.97,.11,0,0,6.61,7.92,4.82,1.31,11.26,.28, 39.69,0
mari,25.82,2.48,1.43,0,4.37,7.72,7.24,0,14.57,0,36 .36,0
lower probability
fekr,29.78,1.43,.47,1.28,5.21,8.62,4.54,.88,12.6,0 ,35.21,0
sbagh,30.98,1.04,1.13,0,2.64,7.31,5.06,.13,11.7,.3 4,39.68,0
highmidAVG,26.36875,1.2275,.72875,.2525,6.49125,7. 63125,5,.64,12.68,.96625,38.02375,.1
Here the estimated attempts
ghashghai,26.46,1,1.54,1.2,6.02,7.58,2.32,.76,12.5 4,2.11,38.24,0
qashqai,25.56,1,1.54,1.22,7.07,6.48,3.32,.76,12.54 ,2.36,39.09,0
Updated V3 Version of my fathers result:
(75% Iranian Turk from Zanjan + 25% Mazandaran)
Dodecad k12b Vahaduo:
Gedrosia: 22.51
Siberian: 3.05
NW_African: 0.79
SE_Asian: 0.06
Atlantic_Med: 6.69
North_European: 10.56
South_Asian: 4.43
East_African: 0.54
SW_Asian: 8.96
East_Asian: 4.87
Caucasus: 37.20
SSA: 0.11
Distance to: Father
5.17684267 Azerbaijani
5.42787251 Azerbaijani_Iran
5.93638779 Azerbaijani_Turkey
7.57484653 Iran_Khorasan
8.32531081 Turk_Southeast
8.50112346 Talysh_Azerbaijan
8.59795906 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
8.60963414 Kurd_Kurmanji
9.43041887 Zaza
9.46463945 Turk_South
9.85494292 Iran_Central_East
9.94919595 Iranian_Fars
10.00778197 Kurd_Sorani
10.15785903 Turk_Central_East
10.26547125 Iranian
10.53277741 Turk_Central_Black_Sea
10.55194769 Turkmen_Iraq
10.72265359 Turk_Anatolia
11.18030858 Turkmen_Iran
11.26223779 Turk_Central_West
11.28121891 Kurd
11.32719736 Lur_Iran
11.61399587 Kurd_KAZ
11.71265128 Turkmens
11.78071730 Yoruk
Target: Father
Distance: 1.3399% / 1.33992501 | ADC: 0.25x
26.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
21.6 Azerbaijani
19.2 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
12.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
11.2 Turkmens
4.0 Brahmins_from_Uttaranchal
3.6 Karachay
1.2 Turkmen_Iran
0.6 Kumyks
Target: Father
Distance: 2.4175% / 2.41754645 | ADC: 0.5x
59.8 Azerbaijani
16.8 Azerbaijani_Dagestan
10.2 Turkmens
9.6 Turkmen_Iran
2.0 Azerbaijani_Turkey
1.6 Azerbaijani_Iran
Some Admixturestudio stuff:
Using 2 populations approximation
1 50% Yoruk + 50% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
2 50% Greek_Pontus + 50% Tajiks @ 3,706
3 50% Turkmens + 50% Turk_East @ 3,819
4 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Southwest @ 3,867
5 50% Turkmen_Iran + 50% Turk_East @ 3,945
6 50% Iran_Mazandaran + 50% Turk_Northwest @ 3,997
Using 3 populations approximation
1 33% Azerbaijani_Dagestan + 33% Iran_Central_East + 33% Yoruk @ 3,325
Using 4 populations approximation
1 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Iran_Central_East + 25% Zaza + 25% Nogais @ 3,071
2 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% Azerbaijani_Turkey + 25% AFG_Tajik @ 3,306
3 25% Yoruk + 25% Yoruk + 25% Iran_Mazandaran + 25% Iran_Mazandaran @ 3,482
So, he don't look white : it's not because you have a light pigmentation that you can pass as European.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saba
I think to most people a light pigmented middle eastern person would seem white. I’m light pigmented(light brown hair level 6 & hazel eyes& light olive skin) but have pretty noneuropean facial features(wide nose and big lips) and im perceived as white american by most people. I think all of you guys would be able to distinguish light middle east vs euro but you’re probably a bit more interested in race than the average joe lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
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Originally Posted by lameduck
This ones half iranian half Pakistani. Iranians score same as Azerbaijan Kurds Armenians etc
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Originally Posted by lameduck
That’s all bullshite Pashtuns and chitralis have no connection to iran they just have a bit of Afghani drift. Baloch are the only people with an actual Iranian origin
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Originally Posted by MEDACHE
That dude ain’t ethnic baloch just balochi speaking. There’s so many non baloch living in balochistan. Dude looks like ur average Indian pretty obvious he ain’t
What else would he be, if not baloch? His name is even iranian(Mojtaba), and he speaks persian. How is he indian???Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
There’s loads of people that just took names of baloch as protection in the reigon. He doesn’t even look remotely Baloch or IranianQuote:
Originally Posted by Melonman
An indian with a name like "Mojtaba" who can speak persian??? If an indian, then an indian in Iran, not pakistani balochistan. Specially the fact that he speaks persian, since balochs in pakistani balochistan dont learn to speak persian.Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
And there are no indians in balochistan, apart from an extreme tiny numbers of "sindhis"(an ethnicity entirely found in Sindh, east of Balochistan inside Pakistan)
What does "balochs" look like to you? What you think?
Why does anyone with darker skin have to be Indian? Are these Kurds or Iraqis Indians too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
If anything you have it backwards Indians look like some Kurds, Iraqis or Persians because of shared Iran-N ancestry
https://i.imgur.com/jEdcQ16.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/QKEw8oA.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/ZuXF1en.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/lbjBr05.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/gbUo6Tg.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/9Lto1qd.jpg
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Originally Posted by Zoro
Some of these dont even look "indian", some pics have worse lighting, and some of those are just outliers
But i agree, its ridicolous to think this guy isnt a baloch, becuase he looks "indian"
Are these Kurds? They're as brown as the Roma. We tend to associate dark brown skin with non-Caucasoid admixture (black or Indian). What video was the first picture taken from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
1- Kurds from N Iraq. Typical Kurd sharwal trousers. Don’t remember videoQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
2- Kurd N. Iraq
3- Kurds from Suleimani Iraq
4- Iraqi Arabs- Najaf
5- Iraqi Arab Baghdad
6- Iraqi Arab - Najaf
In general Iran-N related darkens. Anatolia-N or Steppe lightens
Okay. I just wanted to check those boys from a different angle. Their profiles look somewhat asymmetrical to me (as opposed to, say, the fifth picture).Quote:
Originally Posted by Zoro
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Originally Posted by Melonman
I’ve seen a lot of balochis you can see my thread about them that I’ve made. I’ve spent time researching them. Secondly I have literally seen an Indian in England looking like this dudes brother. He’s not baloch I’ll link you my thread so u can see what they look like
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Originally Posted by Zoro
Half of them arent dark.
The 2 kids on right in first pic look like normal west asians(west iranians). its just bad lighting. Even some europeans can turn out to be dark with bad lighting
Kid on third pic on left looks like a normal iraqi or west asian. The boy next to him can pass as pakistani.
And the 4th pic is the worst example. THe men in the picture looks like normal west asians, not even dark compared to the average west asian, and certainly lighter than most indians.
You posted some bad examples for "indian looking iraqis"
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Originally Posted by Melonman
Here’s the link to the thread I made
https://www.theapricity.com/forum/sh...e-Baloch-Tribe
Post that thread then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
Lul, whut? He isnt a baloch?! Despite the uber iranian name, clearly showing he's from iranian balochistan??? With no indians over there, but just balochis?
Ok, if balochis cant look like that, then who are THEY???
https://en.mehrnews.com/photo/117885...bol#gallery-13
Locals of Zabol, Iran, mix of shia persians and balochs
Baloch crowd in Iran(no indians in Balochistan):
https://iranprimer.usip.org/blog/201...nsurgents-iran
https://iranprimer.usip.org/sites/de...hestan2014.jpg
Who are they?
Ah, great, 4 balochs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
You sure seen A LOT of balochs
yes, balochs from both PAK and Iran can look like the people you posted, and they can also look like the people i posted.
Its ridicolous to claim balochs can only look like one thing :picard1:
I see 5 in that thread. That’s not even it I’ve searched a lot of them from the bugti tribe to the leghari tribe I’ve seen a lot of balochs. Pure balochs from Pakistan look very close if not just Iranian. Ofc you’ll get some outliers but not this drastic. There’s a lot of false people claiming stuff etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Melonman
Edit: Forgot to mention the baloch in eastern iran will obviously look even more iranian.
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Originally Posted by Didac
And i literally just posted crowd pictures of east iranians, mix of balochs and persians related to balochs.
How is this guy not a baloch? Wtf, there are literally people as dark as him in those crowd pictures, rofl.
Its very childish to claim he isnt baloch, when he's from Iran and, speaks baloch + persian, clearly showing he's a baloch
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Originally Posted by Melonman
He’s not baloch first there’s been alot of immigration from south Central Asia to iran. People have taken names and learnt languages. Just as I’ve learnt French etc doesn’t mean I’m French. If I learn Greek and grew up in Greece im not Greek ethnically.
I’ll give you another example a Latin American immigrant to Spain who has a Spanish last name and was born in Spain bc his parents migrated there. And speaks Spanish and let’s say he grew up in Catalonia and speaks Catalan bc he grew up there doesn’t make him Spanish
Which migrations? From south central asia? Most migrating towards there from "sc asia" are usually just balochs or persians living in Nimruz, AFG, roflQuote:
Originally Posted by Didac
Its really crazy you claim him not to be baloch, all based on 7-10 individual pictures, when there are crowd pictures of balochs from near Iran/PAK border, areas of Balochistan with no "indians"/indics, looking similiar to him
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Originally Posted by Melonman
Lol showing crowd pictures of near the border defines that as the whole baloch population in that crowd? Lol u do know that most of the inhabitants of balochistan aren’t ethnic baloch right. There are various ethnic groups living near the border yes ofc there’ll be a higher incidence of balochis there than the rest of Pakistan. But to claim that just bc it’s the border that all of them are baloch is pretty naive and idiotic to suggest. The baloch population isn’t very large and mostly everyone knows each other’s tribe.
"Lol u do know that most of the inhabitants of balochistan aren’t ethnic baloch right"Quote:
Originally Posted by Didac
Most of people between the PAK/Iran borders arent balochs? What are they then? Where you got that from? Please do show me evidence.
Now if it was easternmost balochistan, i could swallow that much better, but westernmost PAK balochistan???? Please, do inform me with facts.
"Lol showing crowd pictures of near the border defines that as the whole baloch population in that crowd?"
Thats surely better than 5-6 individual pictures