What haplogroup did Abraham belong to?

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Originally Posted by lyakh

I suppose that Abraham might be E-CTS1273. It has TMRCA about 4000 ybp and is widely distributed. It exapnded violently. It is present not only in Old Continent, but also in Near East (although it is not as frequent here as in for example Albania). Current distribution of it might be a proof of scattering of Israelites (who are descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob). I believe that the world is about 6000 years old.

Another candidates for Abraham's haplogroup can be found in haplogroup J1. Some candidates could be: J-Y3081, J-FGC11 and J-Y6074

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If Abraham was E1b1b t would be E-M123 not E-V13/E-CTS1273. Abraham was probably J1(if he was a real person)

E-CTS1273*(?) was found in Jordan (id:YF10527).

E-S7461 (a subclade of E-CTS1273) was found in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon (that subclade has also two mutation downstream of S7461: A8612/BY5022 and Y19357/FGC44188/BY5023).

Probably J2 if he existed

I just thought of something when thinking about David's Y DNA - the Messiah was prophesised to come from the House of David, but how can that be the case if Jesus's dad was God (or at the very least, his mum was a virgin)?

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

I just thought of something when thinking about David's Y DNA - the Messiah was prophesised to come from the House of David, but how can that be the case if Jesus's dad was God (or at the very least, his mum was a virgin)?

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Jesus could have David's Y, as he was phisically created in the womb.
Personally I am even arguing of Mary's gamet was a base for him, but
could be. Then the Y part and his very existance was added to it by
HG - and it could be Joseph's, David's, Abraham's or just Adam's Y. Or
totaly new. doesn;t really matter what code would FTDNA reveald. One
is certain - there is no other possibility than code of the presented parts
of the line or the totaly new one. It certainly couldn't be hamitic, aryan,
oldeuropean, chinese or whatever. Either Adam-Joseph either new one.

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Originally Posted by Hamlet

Probably J2 if he existed

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I would agree with you, that it could be, if there would not be proof, that Israelites were J1.
Befor that, only G, J and maybe T was on the board, with the strongest J anyway, as this is
main and actualy the ture Semitic general hg - especially J1.

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Originally Posted by lyakh

E-CTS1273*(?) was found in Jordan (id:YF10527).

E-S7461 (a subclade of E-CTS1273) was found in Saudi Arabia and Lebanon (that subclade has also two mutation downstream of S7461: A8612/BY5022 and Y19357/FGC44188/BY5023).

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And what? :picard1:

I suppose that CTS1273* lineage may be a remnant of Abraham's descendants who lived in the territory of Jordan in ancient times. E-V13 and its descendant E-CTS1273 are found mostly in the Old Continent, but few lineages of CTS1273 were found in Near East. Why they are present there?

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Originally Posted by lyakh

I suppose that CTS1273* lineage may be a remnant of Abraham's descendants who lived in the territory of Jordan in ancient times. E-V13 and its descendant E-CTS1273 are found mostly in the Old Continent, but few lineages of CTS1273 were found in Near East. Why they are present there?

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You suppose about some imaginery Abraham.
I allready explained why the biblical Abraham cannot be E at all.
We are not talking here about your imaginery Abramek, but about the biblical.

So why E-CTS1273 (which is the main subclade of E-V13) lineages are present in Jordan (id:YF10527), Saudi Arabia (id:YF11029), Lebanon (id:YF08632, id:YF08636) and United Arab Emirates (id:YF09171, id:YF08217)? Lineage found in Jordan is especially interesting, because it diverges from others very early, is CTS1273*.

Abraham was Y DNA I1, like me