Haplogroup E3b1a2 as a Possible Indicator of Settlement in Roman Britain by Soldiers of Balkan Ori

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Originally Posted by Aemma

I thought I read something about Serbians and Albanians in that article above?? Are you sure you're not related to Loki, Guapo? :D

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No, i'm not E3b like Libre.

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Originally Posted by Osweo

Aem, nobody ever thought St George was an English story! It's common knowledge that the cult was picked up on the Crusades!

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On their way through the Morava river valley perhaps? Crusaders liked to rape women too, explanation for R1b in the area.

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Originally Posted by Guapo

On their way through the Morava river valley perhaps? Crusaders liked to rape women too, explanation for R1b in the area.

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We baR1barians have been ...ahem... leaving children around longer than that. Heretik might have told you that I almost conclusively proved a Celtic origin for his surname and ancestral village. ;)

I thought the George legend was as much connected with Anatolia (and the Caucasus), but a Balkan link is as likely, if not to be combined with the others. :thumb001:

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Originally Posted by Osweo

I wonder if the haplogroup was more widespread in the Balkans as a whole, before the Voelkerwanderung?

Either way, Illyrians should be getting as much or more of your attention as Thracians;

http://www.roman-britain.org/military/coh2del.htm

Dacians too, perhaps;
http://www.roman-britain.org/military/coh1dac.htm

Pannonians;
http://www.roman-britain.org/military/alaipansab.htm

Thracians on the Wall too;
http://www.roman-britain.org/military/coh2thr.htm

Aem, nobody ever thought St George was an English story! It's common knowledge that the cult was picked up on the Crusades!

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Well not so common if I didn't know about it! :P But ok! :D :thumbs up

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Originally Posted by Osweo

Heretik might have told you that I almost conclusively proved a Celtic origin for his surname and ancestral village. ;)

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Pm me.

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Originally Posted by Osweo

I wonder if the haplogroup was more widespread in the Balkans as a whole, before the Voelkerwanderung?

Either way, Illyrians should be getting as much or more of your attention as Thracians;

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Not really, in my case it was specifically Thracian. Illyrians were probably mostly R1b anyway?

I accept the ypothesy, but why from the Balkans and not from Italy? E3b1a2 exists also in Italy...

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/7549/ev13zl5.jpg

I'd exclude Northern Africa becouse they belong to E1b1b1

http://dan.draghici.googlepages.com/E1b1b1b_E-M81.jpg

*Sorry before I posted the wrong map...

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Originally Posted by Veleda

I accept the ypothesy, but why from the Balkans and not from Italy? E3b1a2 exists also in Italy...

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:A...EpiPaU3M4K&t=1

I'd exclude Northern Africa becouse they belong to E1b1b1

http://dan.draghici.googlepages.com/E1b1b1b_E-M81.jpg

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You should read the article that Loki posted above RQ. But from what I gather, the reason why Italians are E1b is precisely because they come from Thracian stock, not the other way around!

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Originally Posted by Loki

Not really, in my case it was specifically Thracian. Illyrians were probably mostly R1b anyway?

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E-V13 is more illyrian than Thracian because most oldest TMCRA has found in illyrians zone where lived, like Puglia-South Italy , Croatia, Bosnia then Montenegro/Albania/Kosova/Serbia to Greece, so lineage goes from West to East.

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E3b1a2-V13 is found to be at its highest frequency worldwide in the geographic region corresponding closely to the ancient Roman province of Moesia Superior, a region that today encompasses Kosovo, southern Serbia, northern Macedonia and extreme northwestern Bulgaria.

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Germanicus is going to be mad now! :D