What does the average Swede Score?

Interesting, so Northern Swedes do seem to have some Sami/Finno-Ugric like ancestry.

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Originally Posted by Lauχum

Interesting, so Northern Swedes do seem to have some Sami/Finno-Ugric like ancestry.

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Far Northern Swedes seem to outright be a mixture of pure 50% South Swedish Germanic and pure 50% Savonian/Karelian East Finnish. A K13 on a woman who has a British father and Karelian mother that I posted in another thread is virtually identical to the North Swedish results that he posted:

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Population
North_Atlantic 42.75
Baltic 32.04
West_Med 11.52
West_Asian 3.73
East_Med 0.29
Red_Sea 1.02
South_Asian 1.97
East_Asian 1.22
Siberian 2.89
Amerindian 0.59
Oceanian 1.05
Northeast_African 0.88
Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

#Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 5.82
2 Swedish 6.34
3 North_German 8
4 East_German 8.55
5 Norwegian 8.89
6 Danish 9.24
7 North_Dutch 9.51
8 Austrian 10.12
9 Orcadian 10.66
10 Irish 11.69
11 Southeast_English 11.84
12 South_Dutch 11.92
13 Southwest_Finnish 12.06
14 West_German 12.12
15 West_Scottish 12.46
16 Southwest_English 13
17 Hungarian 13.14
18 South_Polish 15.08
19 Polish 16.68
20 Ukrainian_Lviv 16.9

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.7% Southwest_English +38.3% East_Finnish @2.33
2 57.6% Southwest_English +42.4% Finnish @2.78
3 68% Orcadian +32% Kargopol_Russian @2.79
4 63.2% Southwest_English + 36.8% Kargopol_Russian @2.8
5 64.3% West_Scottish + 35.7% Kargopol_Russian @2.83
6 83.2% North_Swedish + 16.8% Southwest_French @2.9
7 83.7% North_Swedish + 16.3% Spanish_Cantabria @2.94
8 83.3% North_Swedish + 16.7% Spanish_Galicia @3.05
9 65.9% Irish + 34.1% Kargopol_Russian @3.06
10 84.8% North_Swedish + 15.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @3.08
11 91.4% North_Swedish + 8.6% Sardinian @3.09
12 66.7% Orcadian + 33.3% East_Finnish @3.1
13 85.5% North_Swedish + 14.5% Spanish_Andalucia @3.1
14 84.9% North_Swedish + 15.1% Spanish_Extremadura @3.19
15 87.2% North_Swedish + 12.8% French_Basque @3.19
16 64.5% Irish + 35.5% East_Finnish @3.19
17 85.5% North_Swedish + 14.5% Spanish_Aragon @3.2
18 84% North_Swedish + 16% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @3.25
19 71.8% Orcadian + 28.2% Erzya @3.26
20 84.1% North_Swedish + 15.9% Portuguese @3.3

The same goes for Dalarna and Värmland where there were Forest Finns. Dalarna test:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 42.76
2 Baltic 36.81
3 West_Med 9.91
4 Siberian 3.35
5 West_Asian 1.95
6 East_Med 1.75
7 South_Asian 1.04
8 Amerindian 0.92
9 East_Asian 0.7
10 Red_Sea 0.52
11 Oceanian 0.29

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 3.15
2 Southwest_Finnish 7.67
3 Swedish 8.16
4 East_German 9.87
5 North_German 11
6 Norwegian 11.11
7 Austrian 11.96
8 Danish 12.08
9 North_Dutch 12.42
10 South_Polish 13.03
11 Finnish 13.61
12 Hungarian 13.74
13 Orcadian 13.94
14 Polish 14.02
15 Irish 15.06
16 Southeast_English 15.08
17 Estonian 15.22
18 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.38
19 Ukrainian 15.39
20 South_Dutch 15.52

Värmland:

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 46
2 Baltic 34.52
3 West_Med 8.87
4 West_Asian 6.47
5 Siberian 2.18
6 Red_Sea 0.8
7 South_Asian 0.6
8 Sub-Saharan 0.55

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Swedish 4.4
2 Swedish 4.5
3 Norwegian 7.42
4 North_German 7.87
5 Danish 8.91
6 North_Dutch 9.1
7 Orcadian 11.05
8 East_German 11.07
9 Irish 11.57
10 Southwest_Finnish 11.61
11 West_Scottish 12.39
12 Austrian 12.52
13 Southeast_English 12.83
14 Southwest_English 13.87
15 South_Dutch 14.18
16 West_German 14.4
17 Hungarian 15.42
18 South_Polish 15.99
19 Finnish 17.15
20 Polish 17.17

Another Värmland (lacks Siberian):

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Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 48.42
2 Baltic 34.6
3 West_Med 8.25
4 West_Asian 5.57
5 South_Asian 0.81
6 Siberian 0.74
7 Oceanian 0.53
8 Amerindian 0.44
9 East_Med 0.42
10 Northeast_African 0.22

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Swedish 3.48
2 North_Swedish 5.18
3 Norwegian 6.18
4 North_German 7.72
5 Danish 8.05
6 North_Dutch 8.26
7 Orcadian 10.36
8 Irish 10.74
9 West_Scottish 11.49
10 Southeast_English 12.17
11 East_German 12.56
12 Southwest_Finnish 12.92
13 Southwest_English 13.26
14 Austrian 13.93
15 South_Dutch 14.66
16 West_German 14.89
17 Hungarian 17.03
18 South_Polish 17.68
19 Finnish 18.54
20 Polish 18.71

You can see the average K13 scores for different reference populations here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...at=interactive

The average Swede apparently scores 48.53 North Atlantic, 31.09 Baltic, 9.25 West Med, 5.2 West Asian, 1.35 East Med, 0.51 Red Sea, 0.72 South Asian, 0.38 East Asian, 0.83 Siberian, 0.68 Amerindian, 0.71 Oceanian, 0.21% Northeast African and 0.55% SSA. :)

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Originally Posted by farke1

You can see the average K13 scores for different reference populations here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...at=interactive

The average Swede apparently scores 48.53 North Atlantic, 31.09 Baltic, 9.25 West Med, 5.2 West Asian, 1.35 East Med, 0.51 Red Sea, 0.72 South Asian, 0.38 East Asian, 0.83 Siberian, 0.68 Amerindian, 0.71 Oceanian, 0.21% Northeast African and 0.55% SSA. :)

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South Swedes (Götaland) score less Baltic in general (25-30%) and pull closest to groups like the Southeast and Southwest English and North Germans. Roughly half of all Swedes are South Swedes, as Götaland is the most populous region.

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Originally Posted by Östsvensk

South Swedes (Götaland) score less Baltic in general (25-30%) and pull closest to groups like the Southeast and Southwest English and North Germans. Roughly half of all Swedes are South Swedes, as Götaland is the most populous region.

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I once did this map. I think I used the 1970 census, I wanted a population size before the flooding of Sweden

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https://i.ibb.co/1TJpYmk/Sweden-location.png

Was Stockholm mixed even back in 1970? Were there many Northern Swedes and Finns in the city?

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Originally Posted by Leto

I once did this map. I think I used the 1970 census, I wanted a population size before the flooding of Sweden

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https://i.ibb.co/1TJpYmk/Sweden-location.png

Was Stockholm mixed even back in 1970? Were there many Northern Swedes and Finns in the city?

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Yes

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Originally Posted by Leto

I once did this map. I think I used the 1970 census, I wanted a population size before the flooding of Sweden

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https://i.ibb.co/1TJpYmk/Sweden-location.png

Was Stockholm mixed even back in 1970? Were there many Northern Swedes and Finns in the city?

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Well, many Finns moved from the rural areas of northern and eastern Finland into the suburbs of Stockholm in the 1960s and 1970s, and in other parts of Svealand and in Borås in Västergötland. So there was largely a pattern along the historical immigration of Finns migrating to the west.

Finns as recent immigrants is a different thing, as they are not considered as Swedes as a general consensus. Of course that has not prevented some mixing between the two.

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Originally Posted by Maintenance

Yes

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I remember your results, you score less Euro than Jews, so you were definitely part of the flooding xD

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Originally Posted by Östsvensk

Well, many Finns moved from the rural areas of northern and eastern Finland into the suburbs of Stockholm in the 1960s and 1970s, and in other parts of Svealand and in Borås in Västergötland. So there was largely a pattern along the historical immigration of Finns migrating to the west.

Finns as recent immigrants is a different thing, as they are not considered as Swedes as a general consensus. Of course that has not prevented some mixing between the two.

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In Sweden Finns are probably the most passable group after other Scandos phenotypically. However, I'm more interested in fully Germanic Swedes. Is the area around Gothenburg fully Germanic?

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Originally Posted by Leto

I remember your results, you score less Euro than Jews, so you were definitely part of the flooding xD

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hehehehe no.

My family has been here since ww2.