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09-18-2018, 12:57 PM
pelikarski

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaspias

I checked but i think most of them from Sofia region. Actually we don't know their region. I need just Thrace settled Bulgarians.

Can you pm me their results mate?

I think Bulgarian samples from Thrace shouldn't score different than the Bulgarian Turk examples
09-18-2018, 01:00 PM
paradox

Do you expect them to differ much from other Bulgarians?

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09-18-2018, 01:14 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by pelikarski

Can you pm me their results mate?

I think Bulgarian samples from Thrace shouldn't score different than the Bulgarian Turk examples

I will. Yes, you're right. They're almost same with Bulgarian Turks except Siberian scores.

Quote:

Originally Posted by paradox

Do you expect them to differ much from other Bulgarians?

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Yes, i saw one last year. He had 20 baltic and 15 west asian, that is different than average bulgarian results.
09-19-2018, 07:59 PM
Kaspias

Pomak from Bulgarian Thrace. Unfortunately i don't have his kit number or results of other calculators.

Sample is low quality and seems like something is wrong. or not idk lol

Eurogenes K13

North Atlantic : 24.01
Baltic: 21.38
East_Med: 20.84
West_Med: 13.21
West_Asian :13.02
Red Sea: 5.57

Using 1 population approximation
1.Romanian 6.9
2.Bulgarian 7
3.Serbian 10
.... and others.

Using 2 populations approximation:
%50 Cyprian + %50 North Swedish 3.1

Using 3 populations approximation:
%50 Cyprian + %25 Estonian + %25 Norwegian 2.11

Using 4 populations approximation:
Central_Greek + Lebanese-Christian + Norwegian+ Ukrainian-Belgorod 1.2
10-08-2018, 03:53 PM
Kaspias

bump

I need Greek Thracian and Bulgarian Thracian results. Come on.
10-08-2018, 04:00 PM
Pubiczar

Results of a fully Thracian Bulgarian going many generations back I've found on Anthrogenica:

1 Baltic 23.41
2 East_Med 22.73
3 West_Med 17.50
4 North_Atlantic 16.81
5 West_Asian 14.68
6 Red_Sea 3.54

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 6.535331
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.114139
3 Romanian @ 9.714818
4 Serbian @ 14.290203
5 Central_Greek @ 15.244264
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.728432
7 East_Sicilian @ 16.860552
8 Ashkenazi @ 18.663862
9 Moldavian @ 18.688908
10 West_Sicilian @ 18.747200
11 Tuscan @ 19.125540
12 South_Italian @ 20.512079
13 North_Italian @ 22.202955
14 Croatian @ 22.499601
15 Hungarian @ 23.447174
16 Algerian_Jewish @ 26.346493
17 Sephardic_Jewish @ 26.610111
18 Italian_Jewish @ 26.800316
19 Austrian @ 27.156170
20 Turkish @ 28.656975

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Ukrainian @ 2.510952

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% Ukrainian +25% Ukrainian @ 2.510952

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cyprian + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.510952
2 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.519131
3 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Erzya @ 2.562778
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.587687
5 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Erzya + Romanian @ 2.617298 etc.
10-08-2018, 04:03 PM
Pubiczar

Other results of the same user:

Dodecad V3:
1.Mediterranean 29.40
2.West_European 24.65
3.West_Asian 20.51
4.East_European 15.41
5.Southwest_Asian 8.80

1 British_Isles_Dodecad + Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Russian_Dodecad - 1.199375
2 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Kent_1000 Genomes + Russian_Dodecad - 1.227718
3 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Mixed_Slav_Dodecad + Swedish_Dodecad - 1.237622
4 Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Dutch_Dodecad + Russian_Dodecad - 1.240440
5 Belorussian_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Cypriots_Behar + Irish_Dodecad - 1.337710
.....

EUtest 4-Ancestors Oracle
1.EAST_MED 24.88
2.WEST_MED 14.83
3.SOUTH_BALTIC 14.00
4.EAST_EURO 12.16
5.ATLANTIC 11.71
6.WEST_ASIAN 10.59
7.NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 7.66
8.MIDDLE_EASTERN 3.84

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% GR +50% RO - 5.807313

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% GR +25% RO +25% Ukrainian-Russian - 5.120180

Using 4 populations approximation:
1 Druze + RO + RO + RO - 4.917544
2 GR + GR + RO + Ukrainian-Russian - 5.120180
3 GR + GR + GR + North_Russian - 5.161909
4 GR + GR + GR + Northwest_Russian - 5.193666
5 Druze + HU + RO + RO - 5.195260

........
MDLP K23b

1.Caucasian 35.78
2.European_Hunters_Gatherers 25.58
3.European_Early_Farmers 17.63
4.Near_East 8.53
5.South_Central_Asian 5.37
6.North_African 2.83
7.Ancestral_Altaic 1.76

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Gagauz_ 5.953843
2 Bulgarian_ 6.546148
3 Greek_Thessaloniki_ 7.380757
4 Macedonian_ 7.560548
5 Greek_Peloponnesos_ 7.988228
6 Greek_Thessaly_ 8.452497
7 Romanian_ 8.541135
8 Greek_Northwest_ 8.712591
9 Albanian_Tirana_ 9.245254
10 Kosovar_ 9.640592

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +50% German_ 1.818817

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cypriot_ +25% Frisian_ +25% Mixed_East_Slav_ 1.408484

Using 4 populations approximation:

1 German_ + Greek_Northwest_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Macedonian_ 1.152163
2 Greek_Northwest_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Lebanese_Druze_ + Lithuanian_ 1.190487
3 Austrian_ + Belarusian-East_ + Cypriot_ + Greek_Smyrna_ 1.197689
4 Greek_Northwest_ + Italian_Tuscan_ + Latvian_ + Lebanese_Druze_ 1.217789
5 Estonian_ + Greek_Macedonia_ + Greek_Smyrna_ + Sicilian_West_ 1.222707
10-08-2018, 04:32 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by *****

Results of a fully Thracian Bulgarian going many generations back I've found on Anthrogenica:

1 Baltic 23.41
2 East_Med 22.73
3 West_Med 17.50
4 North_Atlantic 16.81
5 West_Asian 14.68
6 Red_Sea 3.54

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Bulgarian @ 6.535331
2 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.114139
3 Romanian @ 9.714818
4 Serbian @ 14.290203
5 Central_Greek @ 15.244264
6 Italian_Abruzzo @ 16.728432
7 East_Sicilian @ 16.860552
8 Ashkenazi @ 18.663862
9 Moldavian @ 18.688908
10 West_Sicilian @ 18.747200
11 Tuscan @ 19.125540
12 South_Italian @ 20.512079
13 North_Italian @ 22.202955
14 Croatian @ 22.499601
15 Hungarian @ 23.447174
16 Algerian_Jewish @ 26.346493
17 Sephardic_Jewish @ 26.610111
18 Italian_Jewish @ 26.800316
19 Austrian @ 27.156170
20 Turkish @ 28.656975

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +50% Ukrainian @ 2.510952

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Cyprian +25% Ukrainian +25% Ukrainian @ 2.510952

Using 4 populations approximation:
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
1 Cyprian + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian @ 2.510952
2 Bulgarian + Cyprian + Greek_Thessaly + Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.519131
3 Bulgarian + Central_Greek + Cyprian + Erzya @ 2.562778
4 Cyprian + Cyprian + Ukrainian + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.587687
5 Central_Greek + Cyprian + Erzya + Romanian @ 2.617298 etc.

Now it's clear Pomaks genetically same-similar with Orthodox Thracian Bulgarians.
11-03-2018, 12:40 PM
karakartal

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaspias

Turk from Eastern Thrace.

Eurogenes K13

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 West_Asian 24.56
2 East_Med 22.87
3 Baltic 14.75
4 North_Atlantic 11.93
5 West_Med 11.49
6 South_Asian 4.37
7 Red_Sea 3.41
8 Siberian 3.33
9 East_Asian 1.67
10 Amerindian 1
11 Oceanian 0.43
12 Northeast_African 0.15
13 Sub-Saharan 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turkish 12.82
2 Central_Greek 15.33
3 Azeri 15.45
4 Greek_Thessaly 15.91
5 Kumyk 16.46
6 East_Sicilian 16.59
7 Italian_Abruzzo 16.84
8 Turkmen 17.84
9 Bulgarian 18.02
10 South_Italian 18.31
11 Ashkenazi 18.41
12 Romanian 19.64
13 Nogay 19.85
14 West_Sicilian 19.95
15 Kurdish 20.36
16 Kabardin 20.37
17 Balkar 20.61
18 Iranian 20.73
19 Adygei 21.2
20 Lebanese_Muslim 21.62

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 74.9% Turkish + 25.1% Southwest_Russian @ 1.57
2 76.4% Turkish + 23.6% Estonian_Polish @ 1.59
3 74.1% Turkish + 25.9% Ukrainian @ 1.6
4 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% Lithuanian @ 1.67
5 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% Estonian @ 1.7
6 76.1% Turkish + 23.9% Russian_Smolensk @ 1.7
7 76.2% Turkish + 23.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 1.73
8 74.7% Turkish + 25.3% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 1.75
9 73.3% Turkish + 26.7% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 1.79
10 76.7% Turkish + 23.3% Belorussian @ 1.83
11 75.7% Turkish + 24.3% Polish @ 1.84
12 74.1% Turkish + 25.9% South_Polish @ 2.03
13 67.6% Turkish + 32.4% Moldavian @ 2.37
14 78.3% Turkish + 21.7% East_Finnish @ 2.39
15 76.2% Turkish + 23.8% Erzya @ 2.41
16 78.1% Turkish + 21.9% Finnish @ 2.46
17 70.4% Turkish + 29.6% Croatian @ 2.49
18 63.3% Azeri + 36.7% Moldavian @ 2.5
19 56.1% Azeri + 43.9% Romanian @ 2.73
20 53.9% Azeri + 46.1% Bulgarian @ 2.78

MDLP K23b

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasian 37.53
2 European_Hunters_Gatherers 17.33
3 South_Central_Asian 11.56
4 European_Early_Farmers 10.87
5 Near_East 8.26
6 Ancestral_Altaic 3.33
7 Tungus-Altaic 1.88
8 Amerindian 1.57
9 Arctic 1.46
10 East_Siberian 1.42
11 South_Indian 1.3
12 South_East_Asian 1.05
13 Australoid 0.97
14 East_African 0.85
15 North_African 0.39
16 Austronesian 0.13
17 Khoisan 0.12

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Turk_Aydin ( ) 4.7
2 Turk_Balikesir ( ) 5.99
3 Turk_Istanbul ( ) 8.07
4 Turk_Adana ( ) 9.03
5 Turk ( ) 9.48
6 Crimean_Tatar_Mountain ( ) 9.64
7 Turk_Kayseri ( ) 11.06
8 Gagauz ( ) 11.87
9 Azov_Greek ( ) 11.97
10 Romanian ( ) 12.74
11 Bulgarian ( ) 13.22
12 Macedonian ( ) 13.31
13 Syrian_Jew ( ) 13.35
14 Croat_BH ( ) 13.97
15 Cretan ( ) 14.11
16 Greek_Macedonia ( ) 14.29
17 Azeri ( ) 14.35
18 Bosnian ( ) 14.37
19 Georgian_Jew ( ) 14.56
20 Lebanese ( ) 14.6

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 62.1% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 37.9% Ukrainian_West ( ) @ 2.73
2 68.4% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 31.6% Russian-North-West ( ) @ 2.73
3 66.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 33.2% Russian-West ( ) @ 2.74
4 69.5% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 30.5% Russian-Upper-Volga ( ) @ 2.8
5 68% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 32% Russian_Meshtchyora ( ) @ 2.83
6 51.1% Croat ( ) + 48.9% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.84
7 65.9% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 34.1% Sorb ( ) @ 2.85
8 66% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 34% Kashub ( ) @ 2.89
9 51.6% Serb_BH ( ) + 48.4% Uzbek_Tashkent ( ) @ 2.9
10 62.2% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 37.8% Ukrainian_Center ( ) @ 2.91
11 75.7% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 24.3% Finnish_FIN ( ) @ 2.91
12 64.4% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 35.6% Belarusian_West ( ) @ 2.91
13 64.5% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 35.5% Slovak ( ) @ 2.94
14 64.7% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 35.3% Russian_South ( ) @ 2.94
15 64.6% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 35.4% Belarusian-East ( ) @ 2.95
16 76.2% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 23.8% Finnish-East ( ) @ 2.97
17 67.8% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 32.2% Moksha ( ) @ 2.98
18 68.3% Turk ( ) + 31.7% Slovak ( ) @ 2.98
19 67.3% Turk_Kayseri ( ) + 32.7% Russian_North ( ) @ 3.01
20 82.5% Turk_Istanbul ( ) + 17.5% Finn ( ) @ 3.02

PuntDNAL K12 Ancient

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 Caucasus_HG 30.75
2 Anatolian_NF 29.58
3 European_HG 18.88
4 Near_East 10.37
5 East_Asian 3.73
6 South_Asian 2.08
7 Siberian 1.67
8 Oceanian 1.31
9 Sub-Saharan 0.82
10 Beringian 0.57
11 Amerindian 0.24

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Armenian_MBA 17.91
2 BattleAxe_Sweden_SG_RISE94 21.12
3 Alberstedt_LN_I0118 23.21
4 Bell_Beaker_Czech_RISE569 23.41
5 Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 23.75
6 Srubnaya_I0430 23.76
7 Halberstadt_LBA_I0099 25.76
8 Unetice_EBA_I0117 26.14
9 Scythian_IA_I0247 26.29
10 Potapovka_I0419 26.86
11 Andronovo_SG_RISE505 27.85
12 Sintashta_MBA_RISE_386 28.06
13 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0104 28.25
14 Corded_Ware_Germany_I0103 28.32
15 BenzigerodeHeimburg_LN_I0059 28.41
16 Srubnaya_I0232 28.52
17 Bell_Beaker_Germany_I1549 28.58
18 Kostenki14_UP_SG 28.94
19 Corded_Ware_Estonia_RISE00 29.18
20 Sintashta_MBA_RISE395 30.1

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.8% Armenian_MBA + 29.2% Baalberge_MN_I0560 @ 7.29
2 71.6% Armenian_MBA + 28.4% Iberia_M_ I0406 @ 7.62
3 67.8% Armenian_MBA + 32.2% Hungary_BA_I1502 @ 7.92
4 67.3% Armenian_MBA + 32.7% Vatya_SG_RISE479 @ 8.09
5 68.4% Armenian_MBA + 31.6% Hungary_CA_I1497 @ 8.36
6 73.3% Armenian_MBA + 26.7% Iberia_Chalcolithic_I0300 @ 8.56
7 71.6% Armenian_MBA + 28.4% Epserstedt_MN_I0172 @ 8.93
8 60.2% Baalberge_MN_I0560 + 39.8% Kotias_Kide_KK @ 9.01
9 51.2% Yamnaya_Kalmykia_SG_RISE552 + 48.8% Starcevo_MN_I0174 @ 9.05
10 52.3% Poltavka_I0440 + 47.7% Starcevo_MN_I0174 @ 9.2
11 69.5% Armenian_MBA + 30.5% Hungary_EN_I0495 @ 9.27
12 73.5% Armenian_MBA + 26.5% Remedello_BA_SG_RISE489 @ 9.48
13 58.3% Armenian_MBA + 41.7% Alberstedt_LN_I0118 @ 9.64
14 69.2% Armenian_MBA + 30.8% Iceman_MN_SG @ 9.73
15 59.1% Armenian_MBA + 40.9% Nordic_LN_SG_RISE97 @ 9.84
16 64% Baalberge_MN_I0560 + 36% Satsurblia_SATP @ 9.84
17 59.5% Iberia_M_ I0406 + 40.5% Kotias_Kide_KK @ 10.08
18 50.5% Yamnaya_Kalmykia_SG_RISE552 + 49.5% LBK_EN_I0054 @ 10.14
19 60.2% Scythian_IA_I0247 + 39.8% Starcevo_MN_I0174 @ 10.33
20 71.5% Armenian_MBA + 28.5% Iberia_EN_I0412 @ 10.38

Which city from East Thrace in Turkey? They have a small European components i've ever seen in East Thrace region.
11-03-2018, 04:10 PM
Kaspias

Quote:

Originally Posted by karakartal

Which city from East Thrace in Turkey? They have a small European components i've ever seen in East Thrace region.

Edirne.

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