why mtfull sequence results dosent match family finder results

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Originally Posted by Leto

The Baloch in HarappaWorld is essentially the same as the Gedrosia in Dodecad. Both vaguely represent some Iranian Neolithic component, therefore they're West Eurasian. White people like Britons and Irishmen get as much as 10% Baloch/Gedrosia on those calculators.
I didn't ask you to interpret the results or make any conclusions, I merely asked you to post your results, I'm interested to see an Iraqi Kurdish result.

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All I'm saying is I don't believe the Baloch in Harrapa is pure Baloch because their spreadsheet shows Baloch only scoring 52% of it. If it was pure Baloch they should score close to 100% of it. I said it's hybrid Baloch-S Indian because BOTH Baloch and Indians score high.

Anyways that's my personal reasons for not wanting to use it. Here are my results using Eurogenes and MDLP. I believe we have a little Turkmen mix but my South Central Asian or S Indian numbers are similar to other Iraqi Kurds and also other Kurds like MS85 who I'm sure has posted his somewhere here.

The neolithic Iranian farmers from the Kurdistan region are our ancestors as well as ancestors of many South Asians. Also some of the Central Asian Aryans that brought Indo European languages are ancestral to both Kurds and South Asians plus there seems to be a little ASI geneflow from east to west because Kurds always show a little of it. So that's the reason we share quite a bit of ancestry with South Asians



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@Zoro, you seem to be mixed or atypical for a Kurd. Around 10% mongoloid.
You didn't post Dodecad K12b.

It's just an MTdna, it means nothing on your autosomal. Mine comes from middle east and I'm 100% European. We can swap if you like OP?

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Originally Posted by Leto

@Zoro, you seem to be mixed or atypical for a Kurd. Around 10% mongoloid.
You didn't post Dodecad K12b.

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You can't use a K12 or K23 admixture calculator to figure out how much mongoloid because we have no idea how much mongoloid is hidden in the other components

The best way to figure out Mongoloid is to use a K2 calculator with one component Mongoloid and the other Non Mongoloid

Gedrosia K12

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Dodecad K12. It doesn't look like they used Iraqi Kurds

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Originally Posted by Zoro

You can't use a K12 or K23 admixture calculator to figure out how much mongoloid because we have no idea how much mongoloid is hidden in the other components

The best way to figure out Mongoloid is to use a K2 calculator with one component Mongoloid and the other Non Mongoloid

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K12b is not bad for this purpose. The Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian components are Mongoloid and you're around 9% in total.
Here you can see how close or distant the components are to/from each other:
FST

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Originally Posted by Leto

K12b is not bad for this purpose. The Siberian, East Asian and Southeast Asian components are Mongoloid and you're around 9% in total.
Here you can see how close or distant the components are to/from each other:
FST

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That's fine but all modern East Europeans and West Asians have mongoloid admixture compared to for example neolithic anatolians because of all the Huns, Scythians, Turkics, Sarmatians adn others. So what I am saying is even the Caucasian, Gedrosian, and South Asian references have some mongoloid admixture. That's why we need a K2 or K3 calculator with one component like Africans or Neolithic Farmers and the other Mongoloid to figure out the total.

Here is a "typical" Iraqi Kurd in Dodecad K12

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Originally Posted by Zoro

All I'm saying is I don't believe the Baloch in Harrapa is pure Baloch because their spreadsheet shows Baloch only scoring 52% of it. If it was pure Baloch they should score close to 100% of it. I said it's hybrid Baloch-S Indian because BOTH Baloch and Indians score high.

Anyways that's my personal reasons for not wanting to use it. Here are my results using Eurogenes and MDLP. I believe we have a little Turkmen mix but my South Central Asian or S Indian numbers are similar to other Iraqi Kurds and also other Kurds like MS85 who I'm sure has posted his somewhere here.

The neolithic Iranian farmers from the Kurdistan region are our ancestors as well as ancestors of many South Asians. Also some of the Central Asian Aryans that brought Indo European languages are ancestral to both Kurds and South Asians plus there seems to be a little ASI geneflow from east to west because Kurds always show a little of it. So that's the reason we share quite a bit of ancestry with South Asians

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Where are you from? What region of Iraq.

Salam zoro thank u for answering!
it seems like there is no explainpson exept that my dad's family moved long time ago from south-iraq towords north-Iraq and adopted the Kurdish culture and what dad said that his tribe is descendants from ال البيت from alhussian son of Ali which is السيد. even though dad thought me that السيد could be Turkish,arab,kurdish,Iranian,azeri,afghan what he means that da tribe is excite in every muslim country. anyways that explains why I have 9% jewish cause they related to al-albyt in ancient time.

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Originally Posted by Aren

Where are you from? What region of Iraq.

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My dad's side is from Kurdistan capital Hawler ( Arbil in Arabic) but my grandparents originally moved there from Qara Tapa which is south of there and my mom's side is from Dohuk.

We have also lived in Baghdad where I attended school for a few years so I can speak and read some Arabic too haha...

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Originally Posted by mashail

Salam zoro thank u for answering!
it seems like there is no explainpson exept that my dad's family moved long time ago from south-iraq towords north-Iraq and adopted the Kurdish culture and what dad said that his tribe is descendants from ال البيت from alhussian son of Ali which is السيد. even though dad thought me that السيد could be Turkish,arab,kurdish,Iranian,azeri,afghan what he means that da tribe is excite in every muslim country. anyways that explains why I have 9% jewish cause they related to al-albyt in ancient time.

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I think you mean Ahl-al-Bait which refers to the prophet's and Hazrat Ali's family. Interesting I have never met anyone like that yet who adopted the Kurdish culture. Do you speak Arabic or Kurdish?