Outside New Jersey, they are all so northern.
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Outside New Jersey, they are all so northern.
Well Quebec is closer to Italy Aosta, South France and Austria Tyrol than to English average, I wouldn't call that "so northern".Quote:
Originally Posted by SharpFork
There is a myth that French-Canadians are Northern French but it is wrong, they are closer to Central France as you can see.
In case of New Jersey there is a problem with too small and rather unrepresentative sample.
And Northern French are more closer to Central France that to English.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Depends from which region. Bretons are closer to British people than to Central France.Quote:
Originally Posted by dududud
From a Wikipedia article about French emigrants to New France:Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
• Paris - Almost 50%
• Normandy - 16%
• Western France - 13%
That makes about close to 80%. So the remaining 20%+ were from all other parts of France combined.
By the way, the stat above is for the filles du roi, which refers to 800 French women that were sent to New France to increase the population of Frenchmen there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King%27s_Daughters
According to this article, around 2/3 of Quebeckers today are descended from them: https://www.cbc.ca/2017/canadathesto...omen-1.4029699
So far all of the states with high % of English ancestry are scoring very close to English K15 average:
(Kentucky, Maine, North Carolina, Virginia, Tennessee)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...and_Canada.png
This is the breakdown of immigrants to New France until year 1700 according to Father A. Godbout:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
https://www.erudit.org/fr/revues/cgq...2/021058ar.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/gQQ8CQF.png
Most of those who came from what is now Nouvelle-Aquitaine, came from former Poitou-Charentes:
https://i.imgur.com/zOarhXq.png
On G25 all French people north of Auvergne are closer to Brits than to Aostans and Bretons are closer to Englishmen than Central French and the Seine_Maritime and the Pas-de-Calais sample are 50/50, to me they are relatively northern in any case(a rough definition of northern to me would be >55-60% Steppe+WHG) although it's obviously arbitrary.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Is there any chance to get more G25 samples out of all those k15 samples you post?
This is most likely incredibly exaggerate, but if it's true and if genetic IQ is relevant then Quebec should be one of the worst dysgenic mess given the poor origins of the founding female population...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mingle
From the blue region most should have come from the northern part, this explains the apparenl lack of southern influence which should have been strong otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
https://www.erudit.org/fr/revues/cgq...2/021058ar.pdf
They must've all moved to New England, because French Canadians in the USA are one of the worst performing ethnic groups, both when studies were carried out in the early 1900s and today. They mostly came as factory workers to Maine, Massachusetts, etc. They only surpass Portuguese(Madeirans overrespented in Portuguese Americans) I believe, even Italians outperform them. While, French Canadians are among the best performing Canadians.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharpFork
@Peterski, how come you think North Dakota is too eastern shifted? The Scandinavian/German parts of the US are also going to be the most Polish/Czechoslovakian(also more East Germans among the Germans, while the east coast/south of the US had more southern Germans/Swabians/etc.. Would be cool to see samples from NYC, more from PEI, southern New Jersey, California, Appalachia(so eastern Kentucky, western W. Virginia, curious if more English or Scotland/Ireland), urban/big city vs small city/rural results.