Y-DNA distribution in North Africa.

I think DF27 is definite iberian ancestry. Would be interesting to see a larger sample and to see how much there is, and to what extent expelled iberians settled.

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Originally Posted by Adamm

Modern samples. ALL of them are modern samples from people who are active in North African DNA communities.

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That's actually pretty curious... L21 and U152 in North Africa, couldn't be Beaker, it has to be somehow from iberians.

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

That's actually pretty curious... L21 and U152 in North Africa, couldn't be Beaker, it has to be somehow from iberians.

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Are you surprised that there are contributions from the Iberian peninsula in North Africa or vice versa?;)

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Originally Posted by Rocinante

That's actually pretty curious... L21 and U152 in North Africa, couldn't be Beaker, it has to be somehow from iberians.

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It is not weird when taking history into consideration, Phoenicians, Romans and so go on they all had free-pass between North Africa and Iberia.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

2 whit I, I2 (Beni Mezouar) near Tanger and I L22 (Bni Itfet tribe) near Al-Hoceima.

Most of R in 3 zones, in NorthWest Morocco, Another around Algiers, and another in North East Tunisia. After those 2 samples near Fes (one of them R Z93) 2 samples in North Algeria separated and one "outlier" in the middle of nowhere in Lybia.

What indicates the difference in colours among J´s and E´s? There is not colour difference between R1A and R1b...

This found is fantastic, thanks.

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I'm one of the map admins so I will take this into consideration and seperate R1A and R1B by color. Thanks for the feedback.

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Originally Posted by gixajo

Are you surprised that there are contributions from the Iberian peninsula in North Africa or vice versa?;)

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I never said it was otherwise, i discuss the how, when and the quantity, nothing more. But actually is cool to know that there is a descendant of the Britonia Bishopric in North Africa.

Probably remnants of Roman, Iberian and Anglo incursions in North Africa.

It could also be viking raids, which still had a high proportion of R's. There are more R1b in Norway and Iceland than I1, about the same in Denmark as well for example. No need to go back to Bronze Age, or simply just even more recent colonies remnants..

Also about the red hair, it is not necessarily from these haplogroups that red hair made its intro. Iberomaurusians also carried SNPs responsible for red hair:

https://i.imgur.com/NDEbc5R.png

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Originally Posted by Noff

Is relative common in North Iberia, but U152 not does not exceed 5% in the peninsula.
Surely the region with the most U152 is Catalonia and that would confirm that the French could have brought it there, I mean because Catalonia was part of the Carolingian Empire and more events with the French.
Who knows. We're here to know and learn.

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I don't know exactly how much U152 is in Iberia, but it is old as DF27 in iberian soilds, so we know where does it come from (at least most of them). An user in anthrogenica told me is more common than L21 but still not near like DF27.