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Originally Posted by orangepulp
It doesn't mean that we are SW & West Asiats and thus half "non-Europeans", it means that we just have a common origin. We the Greeks are partly Neolithic and we have came from the Near East at least 9,000-10,000 years ago, but right now we are completely Europeanized(became whiter, got lighter eyes and hairs-dark brown, the hairs turned straighter, ther facial characteristics refined etc), we are not "Asiats" any more, we are Europeans. According to the way you see genetics soon you will come out with statements such as: "Half of Europe is not European".
Your link don't work. 19 GREEKS??? And you think this represent the Greeks?Quote:
Globe 13 is the latest run by Dienekes, I posted the link and I am posting it again:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...E&pli=1#gid=24
19 Greeks participated.
This gene goes back 10,000 years ago, it has completely Europeanized, go educate your self. All Europeans have non-European origin but they shall remain Europeans forever, including Greeks as well.Quote:
No, I didn't say this. I said that certain Southern Euros such as Greeks and Italians have significant amount of non-European originated components thus makes them not completely European in the genetic sense.
I can't find them but I posted them somewhere. I got like 11% of each West and Southwest Asian.Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepulp
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Originally Posted by Hellenas
Here is the link:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...E&pli=1#gid=24
Whys shouldn't those 19 Greeks represent Greece?? There is no way a countries whole population can be tested.
I never said you are not Europeans for the hundredth time. I just said Greeks carry non European DNA and it is significant (38%). Its almost 1/3 of your ancestry.I don't care when you got this West Asian admixture point is it is present in your genes.
And please stop exaggerating your skin tone, I have seen plenty of swarthy Greeks.
There are no European and non-European components :picard2: It is the combination and % of components that counts! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by orangepulp
It is the negligable % of the Northern European component in the populations you mentioned that makes them different. Not to mention their other admix that is not found in Southeast Europe. (high % Gedrosia, South-Asian, Sub-Saharan etc)
West Asian+Mediterranean+Northern European= European
West Asian+very low Med+very low NE+very high Gedrosia, Subsaharan or other admix=Not European
Due to the frequency of the % of a component in a population a component is named. West Asian component is called West Asian because it peaks in West Asians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raine
Certain % of Gedrosia is present.
Either way to me it matters where we draw the line of "Europe" and not.. and we've drawn it, in the anthroforum community AND in real life when we think of Europe, at Sicily and Greece. Thus they are EUROPEAN, and Turks/Armenians/etc are not despite some shared genes.
We're not talking about dominant components or mixture of certain components resulting to European or not. We are talking about a component and that is the West Asia component.It is frequent in West Asians making it a ME component.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raine
To the people who voted "no",
Does this mean that Greeks, the intellectual founders of western civilization, are Non-Europeans?
On that run, West Asian is highest on Armenians, Georgians, Iranians, Pakistanis, and surrounding populations, so i wouldn't call it European. For that it would have to be highest somewhere in Europe