DNA reveals origin of Greece's ancient Minoan culture

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Originally Posted by Sikeliot

Western and Northern Europe? Wow. I am surprised. I would have assumed they would be similar to other East Med peoples, like Levantines, Cypriots, Sicilians, Maltese etc. and be largely similar to today's Cretans.

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Genotype =/= phenotype.

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Originally Posted by Peyrol

Genotype =/= phenotype.

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Yeah genetics don't necessarily correlate with phenotypes. You can be genetically close to an ethnic group but resemble a more distant one (in terms of genetics). I read somewhere that Ethiopians are genetically closer to Pakistanis and Northern Indians than to Southern Indians/Sri Lankans despite resembling the latter ethnicities more. The same would apply to Cretans or the Minoans. They may be genetically closer to Sardinians, Spanish and Portuguese than S. Italians/Maltese but they mostly resemble the latter more.

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Originally Posted by Akuba

They may be genetically closer to Sardinians, Spanish and Portuguese than S. Italians/Maltese but they mostly resemble the latter more.

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You haven't read the article or the study properly. They are closer to Neolithic Europeans, and Neolithic samples.

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Bronze Age populations from Sardinia and Iberia and Neolithic samples from Scandinavia and France.

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And are similar to modern Cretans, not modern Iberians.

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Minoans show the strongest relationships with Neolithic and modern European populations and with the modern inhabitants of the Lassithi plateau.

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Lassithi plateau: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oropedio_Lasithiou

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal...mms2871-f5.jpg
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal...mms2871-f6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Sunphq

You haven't read the article or the study properly. They are closer to Neolithic Europeans, and Neolithic samples.


And are similar to modern Cretans, not modern Iberians.



Lassithi plateau: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oropedio_Lasithiou

http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal...mms2871-f5.jpg
http://www.nature.com/ncomms/journal...mms2871-f6.jpg

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Calm down buddy, it was just a misunderstanding. The Minoans were obviously Neolithic people but they were not Arabs or Berbers as what some pathetic people claim.

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Calm down buddy, it was just a misunderstanding. The Minoans were obviously Neolithic people but they were not Arabs or Berbers as what some pathetic people claim.

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Akuba ,how do you explain haplagroup j2 in minoan genes

Minoans probably looked similar to modern day Sicilians.

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Originally Posted by Raine

The Minoans seem to have worshipped primarily goddesses, sometimes being described as a "matriarchal religion". Although there is some evidence of male gods, depictions of Minoan goddesses vastly outnumber those of anything that could be considered a Minoan god.

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Great outfits.

And nice tits.

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Originally Posted by Akuba

Yeah genetics don't necessarily correlate with phenotypes. You can be genetically close to an ethnic group but resemble a more distant one (in terms of genetics). I read somewhere that Ethiopians are genetically closer to Pakistanis and Northern Indians than to Southern Indians/Sri Lankans despite resembling the latter ethnicities more. The same would apply to Cretans or the Minoans. They may be genetically closer to Sardinians, Spanish and Portuguese than S. Italians/Maltese but they mostly resemble the latter more.

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Greeks are not close genetically to Spaniards or Portuguese. In fact, they are quit distant.