What is his nickname? BTW, my East_Med is much higher than Polish average, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
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What is his nickname? BTW, my East_Med is much higher than Polish average, I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Kwestos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
From the GEDmatch spreadsheet:Quote:
BTW, my East_Med is much higher than Polish average, I think.
North Atlantic Baltic West Med West Asian East Med Red Sea South Asian East Asian Siberian Amerind
Polish 30.43 45.49 10.42 5.43 3.74 1.24 0.96 0.11 0.29 0.84
South Polish 30.66 42.03 11.08 6.56 6.22 0.35 1.02 0.45 0.97 0.07
Kwestos has ancestry from Northern Mazovia and North-Eastern Poland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I also have his DNA Land Ancestry Report results, he is "number 5" here:
http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4186941
I am "number 3". I have 9.5% of Southern European according to DNA Land.
Kwestos as you can see has no Southern European admixture in DNA Land.
"Number 6" is a Kashubian and she has very similar results to Kwestos.
I get "South Polish", but my ancestry is Western Polish (from Greater Poland).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That said, North-Western Poles (like Kashubians) usually get "Polish".
But Upper Silesians (South-Western Poland) also get "South Polish".
I thought Northeastern Poles should be a bit more 'Slavic' than Kwestos is. More like Belarusians. Though I am not sure whether DNA Land is accurate or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
His ancestry is mostly from North-Central Poland. Only some part is North-Eastern.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
OK. Now I'm eager to see some Slovak and Czech results. Some kit numbers would be just awesome. They seem to be understudied. Don't know why, 'cause they can easily buy 23andme or FTDNA in their countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
Czech in Eurogenes K13:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 39.21
2 North_Atlantic 33.63
3 West_Med 9.34
4 East_Med 8.97
5 West_Asian 5.61
6 Amerindian 1.39
7 Red_Sea 1.13
8 Northeast_African 0.5
9 Oceanian 0.17
10 Siberian 0.04
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Polish 5.15
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 7.55
3 Hungarian 7.74
4 Ukrainian 7.75
5 Polish 7.8
6 Croatian 8.16
7 East_German 8.92
8 Austrian 10.28
9 Southwest_Russian 10.43
10 Russian_Smolensk 10.65
11 Southwest_Finnish 10.75
12 Belorussian 10.78
13 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.92
14 Estonian_Polish 11.09
15 Moldavian 11.56
16 North_Swedish 12.62
17 Estonian 13.45
18 Finnish 13.48
19 Kargopol_Russian 14.79
20 Serbian 15.01
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 59.3% Hungarian + 40.7% Belorussian @ 3.05
2 62.9% Belorussian + 37.1% West_German @ 3.19
3 51.3% Austrian + 48.7% Belorussian @ 3.2
4 68.1% Hungarian + 31.9% Lithuanian @ 3.22
5 65% Hungarian + 35% Estonian @ 3.24
6 63.9% Southwest_Russian + 36.1% West_German @ 3.39
7 67.9% Southwest_Russian + 32.1% Southeast_English @ 3.46
8 62.4% Estonian_Polish + 37.6% West_German @ 3.54
9 50.3% Hungarian + 49.7% Polish @ 3.56
10 65.4% Southwest_Russian + 34.6% South_Dutch @ 3.57
11 68.9% Belorussian + 31.1% French @ 3.58
12 60.6% Hungarian + 39.4% Estonian_Polish @ 3.66
13 52.1% Austrian + 47.9% Estonian_Polish @ 3.68
14 50.4% Austrian + 49.6% Southwest_Russian @ 3.74
15 63.5% Russian_Smolensk + 36.5% West_German @ 3.74
16 59.6% Hungarian + 40.4% Russian_Smolensk @ 3.76
17 82.1% South_Polish + 17.9% North_German @ 3.8
18 83.3% South_Polish + 16.7% West_German @ 3.8
19 64.7% Belorussian + 35.3% South_Dutch @ 3.8
20 62.2% Southwest_Russian + 37.8% North_German @ 3.81
Obviously neither a Lithuanian, nor a Pole, nor a Russian.Quote:
Originally Posted by physical-anthro
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
K13 Oracle ref data revised 21 Nov 2013
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 38.3
2 North_Atlantic 27.82
3 West_Med 14.18
4 East_Med 7.99
5 West_Asian 6.85
6 South_Asian 1.8
7 Siberian 1.42
8 Oceanian 0.87
9 Northeast_African 0.31
10 East_Asian 0.27
11 Amerindian 0.19
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Croatian 3.34
2 Ukrainian_Lviv 4.82
3 South_Polish 5.36
4 Ukrainian 5.63
5 Moldavian 6.37
6 Hungarian 7.7
7 Polish 8.74
8 Southwest_Russian 9.91
9 East_German 10.17
10 Ukrainian_Belgorod 10.41
11 Russian_Smolensk 11.06
12 Austrian 11.31
13 Estonian_Polish 11.54
14 Belorussian 12.24
15 Serbian 12.35
16 Kargopol_Russian 13.69
17 Southwest_Finnish 14.68
18 Estonian 15.64
19 Erzya 16.13
20 Romanian 16.13
Oh thank you. This looks accurate enough to me:Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
62.9% Belorussian + 37.1% West_German @ 3.19
Czechs are a mix of Germanics and Slavs.
Another one (Pioterus). I guess from Pomerania.Quote:
Originally Posted by Litvin
Eurogenes K13 4-Ancestors Oracle
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 46.26
2 North_Atlantic 31.38
3 West_Med 9.47
4 West_Asian 5.48
5 East_Med 5.32
6 South_Asian 2.09
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 Polish @ 2.985
2 Russian_Smolensk @ 4.751
3 Belorussian @ 5.047
4 South_Polish @ 5.052
5 Estonian_Polish @ 5.361
6 Ukrainian @ 5.655
7 Southwest_Russian @ 6.475
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 7.023
9 Ukrainian_Lviv @ 7.195
10 Estonian @ 8.718
Surname Muciek (doesn't sound Lithuanian, but look at these results):
Eurogenes K13:
Kit M344515
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 57.73
2 North_Atlantic 25.58
3 West_Med 7.82
4 West_Asian 2.71
5 East_Med 2.56
6 South_Asian 1.08
7 Northeast_African 0.82
8 Oceanian 0.64
9 Siberian 0.57
10 Amerindian 0.49
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.81
2 Estonian_Polish 8.39
3 Belorussian 8.58
4 Russian_Smolensk 9.2
5 Estonian 9.77
6 Southwest_Russian 10.63
7 Kargopol_Russian 10.92
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.01
9 Erzya 11.12
10 Polish 12.22
11 East_Finnish 12.5
12 Finnish 13.61
13 Ukrainian 13.91
14 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.44
15 South_Polish 15.61
16 Southwest_Finnish 17.58
17 La_Brana-1 21.43
18 Croatian 21.51
19 Moldavian 24.22
20 North_Swedish 25.3
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96% Lithuanian + 4% Erzya @ 4.79
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.81
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.81
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.81
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.81
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.81
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.81
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.81
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.81
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.81
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.81
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.81
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.81
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.81
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.81
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.81
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.81
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.81
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.81
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.81
:lol:
And Eurogenes K15:
Kit M344515
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.5
2 Eastern_Euro 20.42
3 North_Sea 17.97
4 Atlantic 16.06
5 West_Med 2.01
6 West_Asian 0.9
7 Northeast_African 0.55
8 South_Asian 0.31
9 Oceanian 0.27
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 5.08
2 Belorussian 8.92
3 Estonian_Polish 9.73
4 Russian_Smolensk 11.13
5 Southwest_Russian 11.42
6 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.88
7 Estonian 12.52
8 Polish 13.06
9 South_Polish 14.57
10 Ukrainian 14.66
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.08
12 Kargopol_Russian 16.23
13 Erzya 16.36
14 Croatian 20.02
15 East_Finnish 20.06
16 La_Brana-1 20.62
17 Finnish 20.66
18 Southwest_Finnish 21.88
19 Moldavian 22.23
20 Hungarian 22.95
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 5.08
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 5.08
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 5.08
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 5.08
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 5.08
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 5.08
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 5.08
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 5.08
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 5.08
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 5.08
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 5.08
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 5.08
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 5.08
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 5.08
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 5.08
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 5.08
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 5.08
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 5.08
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 5.08
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 5.08
^^This kit is super Baltic:) In spreadsheet on the top are Lithuanians with 36.36...
I found Muciek's kit among GEDmatch relatives of Steinbach, using "One-to-many matches" tool:Quote:
Originally Posted by physical-anthro
Steinbach's results: http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4280100
It is possible, that she has ancestry from East Prussia (maybe one of Mazurians or Warmiaks?).
But today the surname Muciek is most common in South-Eastern Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/muciek.html
Another extremely "Baltic" result, kit F215487.
He is R1a, and part of a relatively old Baltic subclade YP420 under YP237:
https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-YP420/
Eurogenes K13:
Kit F215487
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 57.94
2 North_Atlantic 27.93
3 West_Med 7.94
4 West_Asian 3.11
5 Sub-Saharan 1.06
6 Amerindian 0.92
7 Oceanian 0.66
8 South_Asian 0.36
9 Red_Sea 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.37
2 Estonian 8.82
3 Estonian_Polish 9.09
4 Belorussian 9.12
5 Russian_Smolensk 9.63
6 Kargopol_Russian 11.73
7 Southwest_Russian 11.77
8 Ukrainian_Belgorod 11.91
9 Polish 12.18
10 East_Finnish 12.37
11 Erzya 12.55
12 Finnish 13
13 Ukrainian 14.52
14 South_Polish 15.9
15 Ukrainian_Lviv 15.97
16 Southwest_Finnish 16.71
17 La_Brana-1 20.67
18 Croatian 22.26
19 North_Swedish 24.26
20 Moldavian 25.16
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.37
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.37
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.37
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.37
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.37
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Aghan_Hazara @ 4.37
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.37
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.37
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.37
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.37
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.37
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.37
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.37
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.37
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.37
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.37
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.37
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.37
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_N.E. @ 4.37
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bantu_S.E. @ 4.37
Eurogenes K15:
Kit F215487
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 41.37
2 North_Sea 20.07
3 Eastern_Euro 19.79
4 Atlantic 16.27
5 West_Med 1.9
6 Sub-Saharan 0.46
7 Oceanian 0.14
8 Amerindian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 4.93
2 Belorussian 8.96
3 Estonian_Polish 9.96
4 Russian_Smolensk 11.41
5 Estonian 11.55
6 Southwest_Russian 11.76
7 Ukrainian_Belgorod 12.35
8 Polish 12.74
9 South_Polish 14.34
10 Ukrainian 14.38
11 Ukrainian_Lviv 14.82
12 Kargopol_Russian 16.47
13 Erzya 16.91
14 East_Finnish 19.6
15 Finnish 19.77
16 La_Brana-1 20.02
17 Croatian 20.1
18 Southwest_Finnish 20.99
19 Moldavian 22.37
20 Hungarian 22.55
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 100% Lithuanian + 0% Abhkasian @ 4.93
2 100% Lithuanian + 0% Adygei @ 4.93
3 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Hazara @ 4.93
4 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Pashtun @ 4.93
5 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Tadjik @ 4.93
6 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Turkmen @ 4.93
7 100% Lithuanian + 0% Afghan_Uzbeki @ 4.93
8 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian @ 4.93
9 100% Lithuanian + 0% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.93
10 100% Lithuanian + 0% Altaian @ 4.93
11 100% Lithuanian + 0% Anzick-1 @ 4.93
12 100% Lithuanian + 0% Armenian @ 4.93
13 100% Lithuanian + 0% Ashkenazi @ 4.93
14 100% Lithuanian + 0% Assyrian @ 4.93
15 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austrian @ 4.93
16 100% Lithuanian + 0% Austroasiatic_Ho @ 4.93
17 100% Lithuanian + 0% Azeri @ 4.93
18 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balkar @ 4.93
19 100% Lithuanian + 0% Balochi @ 4.93
20 100% Lithuanian + 0% Bangladeshi @ 4.93
Here are four Lithuanians who have even higher levels of "Baltic" at K13:
59.04 - kit T940605
58.42 - kit T751932
58.30 - kit T589878
58.14 - kit M333034
They're all pretty similar to EHG from Samara:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 66.91
2 North_Atlantic 24.57
3 Amerindian 8.52
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 16.86
2 Estonian 19.65
3 Erzya 20.56
4 Belorussian 20.76
5 Estonian_Polish 20.83
And even closer to EHG from Khvalynsk:
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 54.93
2 North_Atlantic 33.32
3 Amerindian 7.06
4 West_Asian 4.69
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Estonian 10.67
2 Lithuanian 10.75
3 Finnish 12.65
4 Belorussian 13
5 East_Finnish 13.66
Minus all that Amerindian
Were they IE?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sarmatian Mleccha
No, those are EHG before Yamnaya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Over 60% "Baltic" in Eurogenes K13:
Kit A146377
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Baltic 60.18
2 North_Atlantic 25.86
3 West_Med 5.87
4 West_Asian 3.75
5 Amerindian 1.6
6 Oceanian 0.85
7 Sub-Saharan 0.76
8 Red_Sea 0.42
9 South_Asian 0.35
10 Siberian 0.3
11 East_Med 0.05
12 Northeast_African 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Lithuanian 6.6
2 Estonian 11.14
3 Estonian_Polish 11.22
4 Belorussian 11.24
(...)
Another one:
Kit M434508 - 60.31% Baltic in Eurogenes K13.
...
Are there any Estonian kit numbers? I've not found any so far.
1 Baltic 48.67Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
2 North_Atlantic 34.95
3 West_Med 5.06
4 West_Asian 4.94
5 Siberian 1.89
6 Amerindian 1.3
7 South_Asian 1.26
8 Red_Sea 1
9 Oceanian 0.6
10 East_Asian 0.33
haplogroup N genetiks
I was expecting Finns to score some Siberian/Mongol :D
Breaking all the records posted in this thread. Here's a Latvian from the town of Cesis. A true Northern European!
Spoiler!
So I simulated her and relative coords through K13 results and OMG the results are insane!Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
Dude! I thought I was hallucinating, but this woman and her family are literally Living Fossils man!! :eek: Probably one of the closest modern individuals to ancient Mesolithic Euros. You should get them to do G25 and qpadm immediately.
A distance of 4-5 to Pitted Ware Culture, an ancient Scandinavian Hunter Gatherer group with some Farmer admixture (around 20%) is crazy!!! :eek:
Distance of 9-11 to many Mesolithic HGs such as SHG, BHG, WHG is crazy!!
Her Western Steppe Herder (Yamnaya/Corded Ware)-related blood and Farmer must be atypically low!!
https://i.postimg.cc/D0PLQt6W/Closes...e-Vbj001-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/Kcf1NrF4/Closes...e-Ajv29b-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/fLZb7krv/Closes...Bredgarden.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/k4dyxFC0/Closes...Tamula-1-1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/FsKVgKts/Closes...a-HG-I0013.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/qR08tJXB/Closes...Mesolithic.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/vT4DTkjQ/Closes...a-MN-I4627.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/YqmhHcYJ/Closes...tvia-MN-o1.jpg
https://i.postimg.cc/5jc900Lg/Closes...sel-OST001.jpg
Here are the Davidski G25 calculator results of the same woman and some of her relatives. Omg this is freaking insane!!!: :eek: How is this possible?? Is she from a very isolated region? Want to see her actual G25 coords and results to compare.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peterski
50% WHG is mindblowing, her relatives are 34-46%+ WHG???
Target: Latvian:A643022_K13
Distance: 4.7316% / 0.04731642
49.4 WHG
36.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
14.2 TUR_Barcin_N
0.2 Russia_Krasnoyarsk_BA.SG
Target: Latvian:T617865_K13
Distance: 7.1521% / 0.07152133
45.8 WHG
44.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.2 TUR_Barcin_N
Target: T441280_K13
Distance: 6.8949% / 0.06894900
51.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
34.0 WHG
14.2 TUR_Barcin_N
Adding a Baltic HG reference into the run:
Target: Latvian:A643022_K13
Distance: 3.1226% / 0.03122640
64.8 Latvia_HG
13.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
12.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.8 TUR_Barcin_N
Target: Latvian:T617865_K13
Distance: 5.4343% / 0.05434346
60.8 Latvia_HG
22.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
10.8 TUR_Barcin_N
6.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Target: T441280_K13
Distance: 5.5293% / 0.05529345
45.6 Latvia_HG
35.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.6 TUR_Barcin_N
0.2 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Replace Baltic HG with Scandinavian HG:
Target: Latvian:A643022_K13
Distance: 3.9100% / 0.03909965
49.4 Sweden_Motala_HG
18.4 TUR_Barcin_N
16.2 WHG
14.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.0 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Target: Latvian:T617865_K13
Distance: 5.9616% / 0.05961623
68.4 Sweden_Motala_HG
16.2 TUR_Barcin_N
13.0 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
2.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
Target: T441280_K13
Distance: 5.9149% / 0.05914887
51.4 Sweden_Motala_HG
28.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
20.4 TUR_Barcin_N