RN97's various GEDMatch results

Please try Gedrosia K3 run. It will give you very basic divison of your ancestry between SSA, west (caucasoid) and east (mongoloid) Eurasian :)
So far your 23and me east asian didn't really show in gedmatch, that why I'm curious.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Please try Gedrosia K3 run. It will give you very basic divison of your ancestry between SSA, west (caucasoid) and east (mongoloid) Eurasian :)
So far your 23and me east asian didn't really show in gedmatch, that why I'm curious.

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I don't think that's so accurate
Population
E_Eurasian 3.97
SSA 0.82
W_Eurasian 95.21

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Originally Posted by RN97

I don't think that's so accurate
Population
E_Eurasian 3.97
SSA 0.82
W_Eurasian 95.21

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Your east eurasian isn't out of norm, I score close to 3%. (usual for eastern part of Europe) I expected you will get around 5% or more with such 23andme data.
SSA may be real, but it is really small so we can't really know.

You don't seem to have more mongoloid admixture than average, like Seya does for example.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Your east eurasian isn't out of norm, I socre close to 3%. (usual for eastern part of Europe) I expected you will get around 5% or more with such 23andme data.
SSA may be real, but it is really small so we can't really know.

You don't seem to have more mongoloid admixture than average, like Seya does for example.

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But SSA from where tho? Probably rather south Asian interpreted as SSA.

I expected you to have the genetic make up of an austrian you seem to be closer to the western german average.

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Originally Posted by RN97

I don't think that's so accurate
Population
E_Eurasian 3.97
SSA 0.82
W_Eurasian 95.21

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Compare with other people here:

http://www.theapricity.com/forum/sho...=1#post4103151

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By the way, since Gedrosia K3 doesn't have "Australoid", this is what Australian Aborigine gets:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 E_Eurasian 66.49
2 W_Eurasian 21.54
3 SSA 11.97

But Oracle is pretty accurate, it gives him Australoid / Negritoid (ASE-descended) populations:

Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
3 components mode.

Least-squares method.

Using 1 population approximation:
1 Great_Andamanese @ 9.347932
2 Onge @ 9.697618
3 Kharia @ 10.112145
4 Birhor @ 10.196522
5 Bhumij @ 10.817683
6 Paniyas @ 13.703825
7 Altaian @ 14.928535
8 Gond @ 15.069019
9 Kyrgyz @ 15.099876
10 Nihali @ 19.136213
11 Yukagir @ 20.452866
12 Yukagir @ 20.452866
13 Kattunayakkan @ 20.907804
14 Sherpa @ 24.519413
15 Irula @ 25.165117
16 Hazara @ 26.034424
17 Madiga @ 29.660011
18 Thai @ 30.312344
19 Changapa @ 31.106314
20 Hallkipiki @ 31.229984

Paniyas are one of aboriginal tribal populations of South India, IIRC:

Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Onge +50% Paniyas @ 7.309495
2 50% Bhumij +50% Onge @ 8.116324
3 50% Gond +50% Onge @ 8.352816
4 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Onge @ 8.461292
5 50% Birhor +50% Onge @ 8.511601
6 50% Kharia +50% Onge @ 8.915203
7 50% Nihali +50% Onge @ 8.955352
8 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Great_Andamanese @ 9.347932
9 50% Kattunayakkan +50% Onge @ 9.374878
10 50% Onge +50% Onge @ 9.697618
11 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Kharia @ 9.726807
12 50% Birhor +50% Great_Andamanese @ 9.750111
13 50% Bhumij +50% Great_Andamanese @ 9.916514
14 50% Birhor +50% Kharia @ 10.110303
15 50% Kharia +50% Kharia @ 10.112145
16 50% Birhor +50% Birhor @ 10.196522
17 50% Bhumij +50% Kharia @ 10.239260
18 50% Kyrgyz +50% Onge @ 10.368713
19 50% Bhumij +50% Birhor @ 10.437760
20 50% Great_Andamanese +50% Paniyas @ 10.477298

Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Changapa +25% Ethiopian_Jew +25% Yukagir @ 1.041225

What's your ANE K7 (Eurogenes).

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Originally Posted by Not a Cop

What's your ANE K7 (Eurogenes).

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Population
ANE 15.06
ASE 2.44
WHG-UHG 55.63
East_Eurasian 0.20
West_African -
East_African 0.68
ENF 25.99

RN97, try Gedrosia K6, please.

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Originally Posted by Feiichy

Your east eurasian isn't out of norm, I score close to 3%. (usual for eastern part of Europe) I expected you will get around 5% or more with such 23andme data.
SSA may be real, but it is really small so we can't really know.

You don't seem to have more mongoloid admixture than average, like Seya does for example.

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I score around 8% on K3.

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Originally Posted by RN97

But SSA from where tho? Probably rather south Asian interpreted as SSA.

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Bro, less than 1% is nothing. Just noise.

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Originally Posted by Leto

RN97, try Gedrosia K6, please.

I score around 8% on K3.

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# Population Percent
1 West_European_Hunter_Gartherer 41.87
2 Natufian 37.18
3 Ancestral_North_Eurasian 17.43
4 East_Asian 2.08
5 Sub_Saharan 1.44

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 Hungarian 2.19
2 Croatian 3.19
3 French 3.47
4 Czech 4.27
5 English 4.46
6 Ukrainian 5.3
7 Scottish 5.42
8 Norwegian 6.2
9 Romanian 6.31
10 Spanish 6.42
11 Icelandic 7.88
12 Bulgarian 8.01
13 Europe_LNBA 8.84
14 Basque 10
15 Estonian 10.87
16 Lithuanian 11.69
17 Russian 12.02
18 Albanian 12.78
19 Finnish 12.94
20 Steppe_MLBA 14.18

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 94.5% Hungarian + 5.5% Algerian @ 1.04
2 95.1% Hungarian + 4.9% Saharawi @ 1.06
3 95% Hungarian + 5% Moroccan @ 1.11
4 95% Hungarian + 5% Libyan @ 1.21
5 97.6% Hungarian + 2.4% Somali @ 1.33
6 95.3% Hungarian + 4.7% Egyptian @ 1.36
7 95.9% Hungarian + 4.1% Yemeni @ 1.44
8 89.5% Czech + 10.5% Libyan @ 1.45
9 98.2% Hungarian + 1.8% Masai @ 1.47
10 68.2% Lithuanian + 31.8% Jew_Libyan @ 1.48
11 76.8% Lithuanian + 23.2% Levant_BA @ 1.54
12 98.5% Hungarian + 1.5% Hadza @ 1.55
13 89.7% Czech + 10.3% Egyptian @ 1.56
14 95.7% Hungarian + 4.3% BedouinA @ 1.57
15 69.1% Lithuanian + 30.9% Jew_Tunisian @ 1.59
16 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Esan @ 1.6
17 98.8% Hungarian + 1.2% Yoruba @ 1.6
18 98.7% Hungarian + 1.3% Gambian @ 1.6
19 62.4% Lithuanian + 37.6% Jew_Ashkenazi @ 1.61
20 98.6% Hungarian + 1.4% Mota @ 1.63

Is this calc any good/ reliable
Eurogenes JTest
# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.14
2 ATLANTIC 19.87
3 WEST_MED 12.53
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.37
5 EAST_EURO 10.55
6 EAST_MED 9.61
7 ASHKENAZI 6.73
8 WEST_ASIAN 4.81
9 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.09
10 SIBERIAN 0.31

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 5.97
2 West_&_Central_German 8.1
3 FR 8.9
4 NL 9.24
5 Serbian 10.51
6 English 10.85
7 Cornish 11
8 HU 11.12
9 DK 12.35
10 Orcadian 12.75
11 RO 12.98
12 IE 13.42
13 PT 13.52
14 NO 13.75
15 North_Italian 13.82
16 South_&_Central_Swedish 13.95
17 Scottish 14.42
18 ES 14.98
19 North_Swedish 16.1
20 Tuscan 17.35

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 80.6% West_&_Central_German + 19.4% AJ @ 3.39
2 54.9% English + 45.1% RO @ 3.48
3 51.9% North_Swedish + 48.1% Tuscan @ 3.52
4 76.1% NL + 23.9% GR @ 3.56
5 69.7% DK + 30.3% GR @ 3.69
6 79.1% West_&_Central_German + 20.9% GR @ 3.76
7 55.8% South_&_Central_Swedish + 44.2% Tuscan @ 3.76
8 78.5% NL + 21.5% AJ @ 3.87
9 78.2% West_&_Central_German + 21.8% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.9
10 56.2% NO + 43.8% Tuscan @ 3.95
11 75.3% NL + 24.7% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.97
12 70.6% West_&_Central_German + 29.4% Tuscan @ 4.05
13 59.8% NL + 40.2% RO @ 4.06
14 54.1% North_Italian + 45.9% North_Swedish @ 4.07
15 51% Serbian + 49% English @ 4.19
16 67.3% NO + 32.7% GR @ 4.2
17 68.6% DK + 31.4% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 4.23
18 65.1% AT + 34.9% FR @ 4.24
19 80.2% AT + 19.8% Tuscan @ 4.29
20 64.1% West_&_Central_German + 35.9% RO @ 4.32

south asian admixture ?
As I said, Gypsy ancestry. Typical for Romanians, and they try deny it...

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Originally Posted by RN97

But SSA from where tho? Probably rather south Asian interpreted as SSA.

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south asian doesn't get confused with SSA.. they're extremely different components

So Teutonic+Gypsy, like this video?: ;) xD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3eTGAd07v1I

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Originally Posted by Stears

south asian admixture ?
As I said, Gypsy ancestry. Typical for Romanians, and they try deny it...

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I'm a lot more western than the average Hungarian
http://i.imgur.com/5krlOse.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7vmItf6.jpg

The south asian likely comes from old indo-European tribes such as yamnaya.

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Originally Posted by RN97

I'm a lot more western than the average Hungarian
http://i.imgur.com/5krlOse.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7vmItf6.jpg

The south asian likely comes from old indo-European tribes such as yamnaya.

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Yes, it come from ancient Indo European people the GYPSIES. deal with it.

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Originally Posted by Stears

Yes, it come from ancient Indo European people the GYPSIES. deal with it.

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You can easily score 1-2% South Asian as well... The guy is as white as your average Central European.

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Originally Posted by RN97

The south asian likely comes from old indo-European tribes such as yamnaya.

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You are most certainly correct. In this proportions it just can not be roma/gypsy ancestry. You should have to score at least 10% of south asian and 10% middle eastern to have clear roma ancestry.

Here is the proof that it can be from Yamnaya Culture.

Ex. 1 Yamnaya
Kit number M828815
On Eurogenes: 4.5% S.Asian
On MDLP: 3.34% Indian

Ex. 2 Yamnaya
Kit number: M655536
On Eurogenes: 4.66% S.Asian
On MDLP: 2.79% Indian

Ex 3 Yamnaya
Kit number: M343758
On Eurogenes: S.Asian 3.41%
On MDLP: Indian 0.34% / Indo-Iranian 3.40%
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Stairs, cut the crap fucktard! Transylvania was always mine! I have my genes to prove that! LOL :- )))

PS I myself do not have any % of South Asian and I am not defending anyone or anything I just want to prove that his S.A. % can be from Yamnaya (or any other cutulture that has some s. asian admixture).

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Originally Posted by Ibericus

You are closest to Austria Tyrol in my PCA :

https://image.ibb.co/copyhv/RN97.jpg

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How can I get plotted on this PCA?

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Originally Posted by RN97

If you want me to try any calculators, just suggest one and I'll do so.

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Do Eurogenes EUtest and MDLP k23b and then tell us what is the most accurate for you : K13, K15, EUtest or MDLP, thanks.

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Originally Posted by TEUTORIGOS

Do Eurogenes EUtest and MDLP k23b and then tell us what is the most accurate for you : K13, K15, EUtest or MDLP, thanks.

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EUtest

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.63
2 ATLANTIC 20.84
3 WEST_MED 13.52
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.42
5 EAST_MED 12.14
6 EAST_EURO 10.88
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.92
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.28
9 SIBERIAN 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 6.22
2 West_&_Central_German 8.02
3 FR 8.91
4 NL 9.26
5 Serbian 10.19
6 English 10.86
7 Cornish 11.11
8 HU 11.29
9 DK 12.72
10 RO 12.82
11 Orcadian 12.9
12 IE 13.49
13 North_Italian 13.52
14 PT 13.74
15 NO 14.19
16 South_&_Central_Swedish 14.34
17 Scottish 14.71
18 ES 15.09
19 North_Swedish 16.09
20 Tuscan 17.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% NL + 24.7% GR @ 2.56
2 78.2% West_&_Central_German + 21.8% GR @ 2.7
3 51.7% North_Swedish + 48.3% Tuscan @ 2.85
4 54.8% South_&_Central_Swedish + 45.2% Tuscan @ 3.21
5 54.5% English + 45.5% RO @ 3.22
6 68.7% DK + 31.3% GR @ 3.23
7 77.9% West_&_Central_German + 22.1% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.29
8 69.8% West_&_Central_German + 30.2% Tuscan @ 3.34
9 75.1% NL + 24.9% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.49
10 66.3% NO + 33.7% GR @ 3.49
11 55.1% NO + 44.9% Tuscan @ 3.53
12 84.8% NL + 15.2% Druze @ 3.69
13 54.6% North_Italian + 45.4% North_Swedish @ 3.75
14 72.6% English + 27.4% GR @ 3.76
15 59.2% NL + 40.8% RO @ 3.78
16 51.8% Serbian + 48.2% English @ 3.8
17 64.8% West_&_Central_German + 35.2% North_Italian @ 3.82
18 77.9% West_&_Central_German + 22.1% AJ @ 3.86
19 66.2% South_&_Central_Swedish + 33.8% GR @ 3.88
20 87.1% West_&_Central_German + 12.9% Druze @ 3.89

MDLP k23b

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.86
2 Caucasian 26.22
3 European_Early_Farmers 24.39
4 South_Central_Asian 5.85
5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.22
6 Near_East 2.49
7 North_African 1.99
8 East_Siberian 0.99
9 Arctic 0.64
10 Paleo_Siberian 0.48
11 South_East_Asian 0.44
12 Archaic_Human 0.23
13 South_Indian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German-Volga ( ) 3.25
2 South_German ( ) 4.54
3 Austrian ( ) 4.96
4 Italian_North ( ) 6.87
5 North_German ( ) 7.28
6 Dutch ( ) 7.57
7 Hungarian ( ) 8.6
8 Slovenian ( ) 8.83
9 Frisian ( ) 9.05
10 Belgian ( ) 9.13
11 German_East ( ) 9.56
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 9.94
13 German ( ) 10.32
14 Dane ( ) 10.35
15 Irish ( ) 10.67
16 English ( ) 11.25
17 Czech ( ) 11.29
18 Swede_Saami ( ) 11.45
19 Swede ( ) 11.83
20 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Bulgarian ( ) + 48.3% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 1.12
2 60.2% English ( ) + 39.8% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.25
3 53.6% Bulgarian ( ) + 46.4% Orcadian ( ) @ 1.26
4 90.5% South_German ( ) + 9.5% Cirkassian ( ) @ 1.38
5 58.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 41.9% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.4
6 56.5% North_European ( ) + 43.5% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.41
7 69.2% English ( ) + 30.8% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.41
8 93.3% South_German ( ) + 6.7% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.46
9 88.6% South_German ( ) + 11.4% Turk ( ) @ 1.46
10 74.1% North_European ( ) + 25.9% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 1.46
11 76.1% Dutch ( ) + 23.9% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 1.47
12 78.6% Dutch ( ) + 21.4% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.48
13 88% South_German ( ) + 12% Turk_Istanbul ( ) @ 1.49
14 80% Dutch ( ) + 20% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.5
15 88.9% South_German ( ) + 11.1% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 1.5
16 92.3% South_German ( ) + 7.7% Balkar ( ) @ 1.51
17 92.2% South_German ( ) + 7.8% Adygei ( ) @ 1.51
18 93.9% South_German ( ) + 6.1% Abkhasian ( ) @ 1.51
19 74.5% Dutch ( ) + 25.5% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.51
20 91.2% South_German ( ) + 8.8% Kumyk ( ) @ 1.52

IDK which calc. is the most accurate because I there is no objective way to measure it.

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Originally Posted by RN97

EUtest

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 22.63
2 ATLANTIC 20.84
3 WEST_MED 13.52
4 SOUTH_BALTIC 12.42
5 EAST_MED 12.14
6 EAST_EURO 10.88
7 WEST_ASIAN 5.92
8 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.28
9 SIBERIAN 0.37

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 AT 6.22
2 West_&_Central_German 8.02
3 FR 8.91
4 NL 9.26
5 Serbian 10.19
6 English 10.86
7 Cornish 11.11
8 HU 11.29
9 DK 12.72
10 RO 12.82
11 Orcadian 12.9
12 IE 13.49
13 North_Italian 13.52
14 PT 13.74
15 NO 14.19
16 South_&_Central_Swedish 14.34
17 Scottish 14.71
18 ES 15.09
19 North_Swedish 16.09
20 Tuscan 17.21

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 75.3% NL + 24.7% GR @ 2.56
2 78.2% West_&_Central_German + 21.8% GR @ 2.7
3 51.7% North_Swedish + 48.3% Tuscan @ 2.85
4 54.8% South_&_Central_Swedish + 45.2% Tuscan @ 3.21
5 54.5% English + 45.5% RO @ 3.22
6 68.7% DK + 31.3% GR @ 3.23
7 77.9% West_&_Central_German + 22.1% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.29
8 69.8% West_&_Central_German + 30.2% Tuscan @ 3.34
9 75.1% NL + 24.9% South_Italian_&_Sicilian @ 3.49
10 66.3% NO + 33.7% GR @ 3.49
11 55.1% NO + 44.9% Tuscan @ 3.53
12 84.8% NL + 15.2% Druze @ 3.69
13 54.6% North_Italian + 45.4% North_Swedish @ 3.75
14 72.6% English + 27.4% GR @ 3.76
15 59.2% NL + 40.8% RO @ 3.78
16 51.8% Serbian + 48.2% English @ 3.8
17 64.8% West_&_Central_German + 35.2% North_Italian @ 3.82
18 77.9% West_&_Central_German + 22.1% AJ @ 3.86
19 66.2% South_&_Central_Swedish + 33.8% GR @ 3.88
20 87.1% West_&_Central_German + 12.9% Druze @ 3.89

MDLP k23b

Spoiler!

# Population Percent
1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 32.86
2 Caucasian 26.22
3 European_Early_Farmers 24.39
4 South_Central_Asian 5.85
5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.22
6 Near_East 2.49
7 North_African 1.99
8 East_Siberian 0.99
9 Arctic 0.64
10 Paleo_Siberian 0.48
11 South_East_Asian 0.44
12 Archaic_Human 0.23
13 South_Indian 0.19

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 German-Volga ( ) 3.25
2 South_German ( ) 4.54
3 Austrian ( ) 4.96
4 Italian_North ( ) 6.87
5 North_German ( ) 7.28
6 Dutch ( ) 7.57
7 Hungarian ( ) 8.6
8 Slovenian ( ) 8.83
9 Frisian ( ) 9.05
10 Belgian ( ) 9.13
11 German_East ( ) 9.56
12 Hungarian_Budapest ( ) 9.94
13 German ( ) 10.32
14 Dane ( ) 10.35
15 Irish ( ) 10.67
16 English ( ) 11.25
17 Czech ( ) 11.29
18 Swede_Saami ( ) 11.45
19 Swede ( ) 11.83
20 Serb_Serbia ( ) 12.24

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.7% Bulgarian ( ) + 48.3% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) @ 1.12
2 60.2% English ( ) + 39.8% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.25
3 53.6% Bulgarian ( ) + 46.4% Orcadian ( ) @ 1.26
4 90.5% South_German ( ) + 9.5% Cirkassian ( ) @ 1.38
5 58.1% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) + 41.9% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.4
6 56.5% North_European ( ) + 43.5% Bulgarian ( ) @ 1.41
7 69.2% English ( ) + 30.8% Gagauz ( ) @ 1.41
8 93.3% South_German ( ) + 6.7% Kakheti ( ) @ 1.46
9 88.6% South_German ( ) + 11.4% Turk ( ) @ 1.46
10 74.1% North_European ( ) + 25.9% Crimean_Tatar_Coast ( ) @ 1.46
11 76.1% Dutch ( ) + 23.9% Ashkenazi ( ) @ 1.47
12 78.6% Dutch ( ) + 21.4% Sicilian_Center ( ) @ 1.48
13 88% South_German ( ) + 12% Turk_Istanbul ( ) @ 1.49
14 80% Dutch ( ) + 20% Italian_South ( ) @ 1.5
15 88.9% South_German ( ) + 11.1% Turk_Kayseri ( ) @ 1.5
16 92.3% South_German ( ) + 7.7% Balkar ( ) @ 1.51
17 92.2% South_German ( ) + 7.8% Adygei ( ) @ 1.51
18 93.9% South_German ( ) + 6.1% Abkhasian ( ) @ 1.51
19 74.5% Dutch ( ) + 25.5% Greek_Thessaly ( ) @ 1.51
20 91.2% South_German ( ) + 8.8% Kumyk ( ) @ 1.52

IDK which calc. is the most accurate because I there is no objective way to measure it.

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I dunno EUtest seems most accurate, at least the single population mode, since it gives your single population with Austria where K15 doesn't plot you with Austrians. In single population mode, it seems more accurate than all of them, including the unofficial K36 Oracle. Not so sure about the 2 way Oracle.


EUtest does pick up your Romanian, though :

5 54.5% English + 45.5% RO @ 3.22

Comes close to picking up your Norwegian, too :

3 51.7% North_Swedish + 48.3% Tuscan @ 2.85
4 54.8% South_&_Central_Swedish + 45.2% Tuscan @ 3.21

etc...

I honestly don't see how Eurogenes K13 and K15 are supposed to be improvements over EUtest for Europeans. K13 is calibrated to be more accurate for people of mixed Asian and European ancestry most likely. And Eurogenes K15 is probably most accurate for people of mixed Amerindian and European ancestry. So, that leaves the unnoffical K36 Oracle and EUtest Oracle left as the contenders for the crown IMO.

Things that are new aren't always better I think people think K13 and K15 should be better than EUtest because it is newer but that is an obvious fallacy IMO.

K15 may be good for new worlders that mixed with Injuns and K13 maybe for Eastern Europeans that are so Eastern they have Asian/mongoloid genes (not sure) and for people who are a legit mix of European and Asian.

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2. Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 38.7
2 Baltic 21.89
3 West_Med 14.9
4 East_Med 12.86
5 West_Asian 7.6
6 South_Asian 2.15
7 Siberian 1.24
8 Sub-Saharan 0.39
9 Amerindian 0.2
10 Red_Sea 0.06

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.73
2 South_Dutch 7.32
3 French 7.91
4 Austrian 8.5
5 Hungarian 10.84
6 East_German 10.89
7 Serbian 11.9
8 North_German 12.32
9 Southeast_English 12.72
10 Danish 14.04
11 Spanish_Cataluna 14.07
12 Romanian 14.13
13 North_Dutch 14.39
14 Portuguese 14.6
15 Orcadian 14.64
16 Southwest_English 14.75
17 Spanish_Galicia 14.99
18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 15.52
19 Irish 15.72
20 North_Italian 15.96

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 61.2% Danish + 38.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.34
2 60.2% Orcadian + 39.8% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.55
3 81% West_German + 19% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.56
4 85.5% West_German + 14.5% Ashkenazi @ 2.6
5 66.7% Danish + 33.3% Central_Greek @ 2.73
6 76.9% West_German + 23.1% Bulgarian @ 2.74
7 73.5% West_German + 26.5% Romanian @ 2.79

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Wow, your results are very similar to mine. More so than most I've seen on here.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.75
2 Baltic 19.59
3 West_Med 15.69
4 East_Med 12.18
5 West_Asian 9.31
6 Amerindian 1.06
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Siberian 0.46
9 Oceanian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.22
2 French 6.49
3 South_Dutch 6.67
4 Austrian 10.55
5 Southeast_English 11.81
6 North_German 12.38
7 Spanish_Cataluna 12.71
8 East_German 12.94
9 Hungarian 13.46
10 Southwest_English 13.5
10 Southwest_English 13.5
11 Portuguese 13.61
12 Danish 13.82
13 Orcadian 13.89
14 North_Dutch 13.94
15 Spanish_Galicia 14.17
16 Serbian 14.25
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.27
18 Irish 14.68
19 Spanish_Murcia 15.01
20 West_Scottish 15.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Southeast_English + 29.3% Central_Greek @ 2.28
2 67.1% Orcadian + 32.9% Central_Greek @ 2.3
3 83.7% West_German + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
4 63.8% Orcadian + 36.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.32
5 69.2% Orcadian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.32
6 86.9% West_German + 13.1% South_Italian @ 2.39
7 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.47
8 79.1% Southeast_English + 20.9% Cyprian @ 2.49
9 65.3% West_Scottish + 34.7% Central_Greek @ 2.52
10 90.6% West_German + 9.4% Cyprian @ 2.53
11 91.5% West_German + 8.5% Armenian @ 2.55
12 65.9% Irish + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.55
13 86.1% West_German + 13.9% Central_Greek @ 2.59
14 69.2% North_Dutch + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.6
15 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Assyrian @ 2.61
16 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Cyprian @ 2.63
17 68% Irish + 32% South_Italian @ 2.64
18 72.7% Southeast_English + 27.3% South_Italian @ 2.66
19 69.4% Danish + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.66
20 88.8% West_German


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 27.42
2 Atlantic 24.57
3 Baltic 11.73
4 West_Med 11.08
5 East_Med 9.32
6 West_Asian 9.11
7 Eastern_Euro 5.19
8 Amerindian 0.88
9 South_Asian 0.43
10 Siberian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 7.32
2 French 7.48
3 West_German 8.03
4 North_German 10.64
5 East_German 11.32
6 Southwest_English 11.44
7 Austrian 11.46
8 Southeast_English 11.84
9 Hungarian 12.48
10 Serbian 12.5

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Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Wow, your results are very similar to mine. More so than most I've seen on here.

Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 40.75
2 Baltic 19.59
3 West_Med 15.69
4 East_Med 12.18
5 West_Asian 9.31
6 Amerindian 1.06
7 South_Asian 0.86
8 Siberian 0.46
9 Oceanian 0.11

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 West_German 5.22
2 French 6.49
3 South_Dutch 6.67
4 Austrian 10.55
5 Southeast_English 11.81
6 North_German 12.38
7 Spanish_Cataluna 12.71
8 East_German 12.94
9 Hungarian 13.46
10 Southwest_English 13.5
10 Southwest_English 13.5
11 Portuguese 13.61
12 Danish 13.82
13 Orcadian 13.89
14 North_Dutch 13.94
15 Spanish_Galicia 14.17
16 Serbian 14.25
17 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 14.27
18 Irish 14.68
19 Spanish_Murcia 15.01
20 West_Scottish 15.08

Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 70.7% Southeast_English + 29.3% Central_Greek @ 2.28
2 67.1% Orcadian + 32.9% Central_Greek @ 2.3
3 83.7% West_German + 16.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
4 63.8% Orcadian + 36.2% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.32
5 69.2% Orcadian + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.32
6 86.9% West_German + 13.1% South_Italian @ 2.39
7 67.6% Southeast_English + 32.4% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.47
8 79.1% Southeast_English + 20.9% Cyprian @ 2.49
9 65.3% West_Scottish + 34.7% Central_Greek @ 2.52
10 90.6% West_German + 9.4% Cyprian @ 2.53
11 91.5% West_German + 8.5% Armenian @ 2.55
12 65.9% Irish + 34.1% Central_Greek @ 2.55
13 86.1% West_German + 13.9% Central_Greek @ 2.59
14 69.2% North_Dutch + 30.8% South_Italian @ 2.6
15 91.6% West_German + 8.4% Assyrian @ 2.61
16 76.2% Orcadian + 23.8% Cyprian @ 2.63
17 68% Irish + 32% South_Italian @ 2.64
18 72.7% Southeast_English + 27.3% South_Italian @ 2.66
19 69.4% Danish + 30.6% South_Italian @ 2.66
20 88.8% West_German


Eurogenes EUtest V2 K15 Oracle results:

Admix Results (sorted):

# Population Percent
1 North_Sea 27.42
2 Atlantic 24.57
3 Baltic 11.73
4 West_Med 11.08
5 East_Med 9.32
6 West_Asian 9.11
7 Eastern_Euro 5.19
8 Amerindian 0.88
9 South_Asian 0.43
10 Siberian 0.27

Single Population Sharing:

# Population (source) Distance
1 South_Dutch 7.32
2 French 7.48
3 West_German 8.03
4 North_German 10.64
5 East_German 11.32
6 Southwest_English 11.44
7 Austrian 11.46
8 Southeast_English 11.84
9 Hungarian 12.48
10 Serbian 12.5

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Cuz we almost identical. I'm curious as to how you look like tbh

Cool results, man.

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Originally Posted by RN97

Cuz we almost identical. I'm curious as to how you look like tbh

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Romanian + Irish or Scandinavian = West German. That seems to be the math here. Makes me wonder what the typical West German looks like.

I look Atlantid/North-Atlantid like JFK Jr or the actor Thomas Gibson. Kinda dark Irish, brown hair & hazel eyes. Do you look more Norwegian, Romanian, or Central European?

Honorary West germans and south Brits

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Originally Posted by Daco Celtic

Romanian + Irish or Scandinavian = West German. That seems to be the math here. Makes me wonder what the typical West German looks like.

I look Atlantid/North-Atlantid like JFK Jr or the actor Thomas Gibson. Kinda dark Irish, brown hair & hazel eyes. Do you look more Norwegian, Romanian, or Central European?

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Ter-Stegen is a West-German :

https://statics.sportskeeda.com/edit...736811-800.jpg

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Originally Posted by Grace O'Malley

That's what happens when you are a mixture. You will cluster somewhere in the middle of both ancestral pops.

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Honorary French and South Germans. I think in the case of one European ethnicity mixing with another, it comes down to a reconfiguration of HG, EEF, and Steppe admixture. So they'll always be some population that is relatively close within Europe. Perhaps a group such as Sardinians or Cypriots might be a slight exception to this because EEF is so dominate (I think they are Europeans btw, no disrespect intended). I'd actually be interested to see where a NW European mixed with an East Asian or Latin American would plot. I assume it wouldn't be that close to any one group.