It was generally to the thread. Nothing personal towards thou.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
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It was generally to the thread. Nothing personal towards thou.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
full lebanese
Middle East%
Asia Minor 32%
West Middle East 20%
East Middle East 9%
Jewish Diaspora
Sephardic 25% :dance:
European
South East European 14%
p.s
so there 2 lebanese christians who score 18% sefhardic and now this lebanese :thumb001:
cool stuff
nice:)Quote:
Originally Posted by CabOOM
west central europe my mother score 11% like you it is almost 1/8 of your genome :thumb001:
do you know who brought it to albania in ancient time ?
I have no idea. I imagine it is some Indo-European. Possibly Celtic. Might even be more recent.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
I know that FTDNA looks back 2000 years, which means that this Western/Central European is part of what used to be the Halstat Culture in Hungary, that were eventually pushed West. In addition, FTDNA doesn't pick up Eastern Europe as it often does with South Slavic groups. The likelihood of it being Slavic is low but still a possibility.
Where from Bulgaria is your mother from? Does she get Eastern Europe in addition to Western Europe?
my grandmother was from bulgaria not my motherQuote:
Originally Posted by CabOOM
if my granny was alive i would have tested her :)
my grandmother roots in bulgaria : father sofia mother plovdiv
anyway i saw some other bulgarian results in a forum and some of them score 8-14% west central euro could be celtic stuff
in my mother it probably from her bulgarian non- jew mother and not from her sefhardi father
yes my mother also get 8% eastern europe in addition but bulgarians are partly slavs so it isn't a surprise here .
p.s
i think in you it is a celtic stuff:)
i score 0% west central euro :( those genes didn't passed to me but my brother did get some of it 8% :)
Here's my results. Would be good if they could divide up the British Isles component like other calculators do, but overall It's probably quite accurate.
https://i.imgur.com/LwUhtkg.png
You always get near half your genes from each parent. It's not your genes that haven't been passed on equally. It is the markers these companies test that haven't been passed on equally. Meaning it is a form of testing bias. If your brother has 8% and you none, it just means that the real figure is somewhere near 0-10% for both of you. These results should never be taken literally. The average of many results is what gives a better picture of admixture, that circumvents these testing biases. As is the case with you and your brother.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
I think it is Celtic as well. Or Celtic influenced population. Too early to say for sure.
2% Iberia or West and Central Europe would make much more sense in your case than Southeast Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
Southeast Europe includes Italy. So this is Roman admixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Maybe but I have noticed on family finder and Myheritige that I have about five Bulgarian matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Come on now Litvin we all know Scotland was the only country in the world the MIGHTY Romans tried to conquer and failed, Hadrians wall was a pretty huge cockblock.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
In your case it should be South America. Anyway, an impressive Iberian percentage. How much Iberian do fully Spanish people usually score on FTDNA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin
Yes, it's crazy... my native must be South America, but unhappily DNA tests still have some problems to recognize different ethnic groups...Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Talking about the Iberian, I saw that many spaniards and portuguese people score an important % of northwestern european, british and central european, but I've seen some of them who score more than 90% Iberian too.
Who score more Iberian % many times are basques, indeed I have an important amount of basque ancestry, also some french-basque, but FTDNA consider all basques in the Iberian spectrum.
:picard2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
There was no Scotland man, when Romans ruled in Britain... there was no even Scots - they were still in Hibernia...
Calm down mate it was only a joke. But you could substitute Caledonia for Scotland as Hadrians wall marks the extent of both.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel von Rethelsky
Scottish people are an amalgamation of numerous groups of different peoples, Britons, Gaels, Angles, Picts, Vikings, Normans. We are not of purely Irish descent and my Y-Dna is Caledonian/Pictish which proves that point, so obviously my direct male line were in Scotland/Caledonia during Roman times :thumb001:
Doesn;t matter, as they were not Scotts, and assimieted folk is not original Scottish either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
It was Caledonia, inhabited by two different folks, which members
probably live until today there. But they were not Scots. Saying
otherwise in your example, is like saying, that Vikings couldn't
conquer Yankees of Canadians. :picard1:
First of all it's Scots one T, Second of all I didn't say Caledonians are Scots or that Scotland existed in Roman times, I know fine well that they were a Pictish tribe and countries didn't exist back then. But you do realise that the term Scotland/Scotia was used only from about the 11th century onwards and previously the original name of what is now Scotland was Alba, which itself was created from the amalgamation of Dal Riata and the Kingdom of the Picts? i.e Caedonia. And you do realise that despite being Gaelic speaking kings of Alba that they were referred to as King of the Picts up until the 10th century?. Alba is still the Gaelic name for Scotland today btw.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel von Rethelsky
Scotland/Caledonia/Alba are used interchangeably today because they represent the same landmass and are important parts of our history and the creation of our country. Are you seriously trying to say that modern Scots have no Caledonian/Pictish ancestry and no links to Caledonia?
Are you going to say whole scottish history, or are you
from those guys, who have to talk their intorlocutors to
death, only to not admit that said idiocy? :picard2:
:picard1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
Just giving you some context because you clearly haven't got a clue about Scotland or it's history :picard2:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel von Rethelsky
anyway mate you need to chill out it was only a bloody joke. Here maybe some music will help you relax :thumb001:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wP8A9rtg0iI
I know, maybe better than you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
And the fact remains: there was no Scotland - the much more: no Scots in Caledonia.
You clearly don't know half as much as you think you do and certainly next to nothing when it comes to Scotland, ffs you know so much that you think Scots is spelt with two T's :picard1:Quote:
Originally Posted by Rethel von Rethelsky
But please educate me, how can you say unequivocally that there were no Scots in Caledonia? I would love to hear your expert knowledge.
I didn't say a country called Scotland existed back then but the fact is that the name Caledonia and Scotland are synonymous with each other these days as Caledonia was the name that the Romans used for what is now Scotland, just as Hibernia is the name that they gave to Ireland. Or in your opinion are the Irish not allowed to use Ireland and Hibernia synonymously either?
it's quite simple really Hibernia=Ireland, Caledonia=Scotland. The same aproximate landmass.
Compare a map of Scotland and Caledonia. Pretty similar aren't they?
Now begone troll and stop derailing this thread with your bs.
https://i.imgur.com/jJcWZWq.gif https://i.imgur.com/EuChG6e.gif
Rethel probably means by language, the Scots were the Irish(in Roman text) and those Scots married into/annexed Pictland who adopted the Irish culture. There was Irish(gaelic), Cumbric(North Welsh), Norn(Norse vikings descent), Pictish & Northumbrian Old English speakers.
The House of Alpin was both King of Picts, then King of Alba, then king of Scots over hundreds of years.
The 11th century Battle of Carham determined the Scottish/English border & Scotland as we know it. The combined united forces of Malcolm II of Scotland(House of Alpin) & Cumbric Owen King of Strathclyde, Conquered South East Scotland from the Northumbrian English of Cumbric and Anglo descent, and Strathclyde became a dependency of Scotland via bloodlines & marriages.
Not long after, the House of Dunkeld became Kings of Scots to consolidate its independent rule for a couple of hundred years. After the House of Dunkeld followed the wars of independence.
Anyway, you had a good discussion. :)
He's not talking about language, he just has a bee in his bonnet because I used the term Scotland instead of Caledonia when talking about the Romans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Graham
He seems to think that I was saying Scotland existed in Roman times and I was just trying to explain to him that I know Scotland didn't exist at that point in time but it is quite common for Scotland and Caledonia to be used synonymously these days.
I think he's maybe over anylyzing it and thinking I was referring to Scotland as a political entity rather than just the geographic area of what is now Scotland.
Not quite sure why he is so bothered about something so trivial or why I even bothered replying come to think of it.
Mods should delete these posts as they're off topic for this thread and pretty tedious tbh.
Nice result Serbian brother ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by The Devil's Advocate
:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dick
European:
West and Central Europe 28%
Scandinavia 23%
Middle Eastern:
Asia Minor 45%
Central/South:
South Central Asia 2%
Trace results:
Northeast Asian < 2%
Don't know why Iranians are Asia Minor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ritz06
Hi there, these are my results. I like all of my ethnicities, but for me as German I'm missing the West and Central Europe component. I also tested my mom who has 35% W/C Europe and my father's sister who has 56% W/C Europe - so I should have also at least a little bit of it.
Attachment 72790
Are you half Polish or Russian? You don't seem to be fully German.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franx
Well, my father's family is fully Hessian (with a little Franconian influence), which is in Southwestern part of West Germany. My mother's family were ethnic Germans from Northern Moravia in the Czech Republic. And yes, according to my genealogical researches beyond all family names there I found some names of Czech and Slunsk origin, so the Eastern European (Slavic) proportion is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Interesting. Try GEDmatch, 'cause these results don't make much sense in my opinion. Iberian, Asia Minor, etc. And no West/Central Europe whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Franx
Does not work with V5 chip 23andMe data for anyone wondering
100% Europe
-52% East Europe
-38% Southeast Europe
-10% British Isles
Trace result
-2% Finland
Yes, I did already. But on Gedmatch you can choose between dozens of different systems (and everyone explains it differently).Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
My favorite one is Eurogenes K13, which shows the following results:
North_Atlantic 36.65
Baltic 26.58
West_Med 14.47
West_Asian 9.90
East_Med 10.02
South_Asian 0.61
East_Asian 0.39
Siberian 0.14
Amerindian 1.25
Strangely there is also a bit West Asian and South American in it. Comparing to Myheritage, on model 0.9beta I have 1.3% South American and no West Asian, and on current model 0.95beta I have no South American and 3.4% West Asian. My mom has in current Myheritage model 1.4% West Asian and on ftDNA 11% (!) - which is really strange.
100% SE European
What is the oracle result on Eurogenes?Quote:
Originally Posted by Franx
Single Population Sharing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
# Population (source) Distance
1 Austrian 4.51
2 Hungarian 6.58
3 East_German 6.88
4 West_German 7.49
5 South_Dutch 9.16
6 Serbian 10.1
7 North_German 11.42
8 French 11.77
9 Croatian 12
10 Moldavian 12.5
11 Romanian 13.27
12 Danish 13.92
13 Southeast_English 13.94
14 North_Dutch 14.16
15 Swedish 14.75
16 Orcadian 15.13
17 Norwegian 15.57
18 South_Polish 15.66
19 Southwest_English 15.91
20 Irish 15.99