Pure Caucasoid is a " Myth ". Turks, North Africans are less Caucasoid than South Asians.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

More repetition from the autistic mentally ill retard, your family already mixed with Europeans.

Doesn't matter, your family has still mixed more than my entire family has, well not mixing in the racial purity sense since the offspring of those aunts with white men are the most racially pure in your family, but in terms of inter-cultural marriage they have mixed more. 2 Aunts is more than enough, no one in my family has ever married or dated a Non-European.

How am I losing? In the end you are a 5'7 weak small short incel virgin timid University dropout with no job, no career, no business, a low life NEET.

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Absolute bullshit. They are mixed just like you're a combination between Italian and Irish. The rest of us are 100% Gujarati Indian Hindus, and that's what other non-Indians identify us as in real life.

The only one with no ethnicity and any identity is a stupid North American White mutt like you. We don't want to mix with you since you're a non-Aryan.

Just give it a rest now, moron. Go debate someone else. You're spending your weekend thinking about Indians on an online forum? For goodness sake,take a hike and go talk about European culture or something.

Lastly, Indians in the west are smarter and more intelligent than you. We know more about computers, more about software, business and how to make money and run businesses, we aren't fat, and we like to have fun.

YOU LOSE.

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Originally Posted by Fractal

Absolute bullshit. They are mixed just like you're a combination between Italian and Irish. The rest of us are 100% Gujarati Indian Hindus, and that's what other non-Indians identify us as in real life.

The only one with no ethnicity and any identity is a stupid North American White mutt like you. We don't want to mix with you since you're a non-Aryan.

Just give it a rest now, moron. Go debate someone else. You're spending your weekend thinking about Indians on an online forum? For goodness sake,take a hike and go talk about European culture or something.

Lastly, Indians in the west are smarter and more intelligent than you. We know more about computers, more about software, business and how to make money and run businesses, we aren't fat, and we like to have fun.

YOU LOSE.

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White Culture influences the entire world, you wear my cultures clothing styles, drive cars from it, enjoy sports from it, music to. Your own ancestral shit holes national sport is an English sport, if anything your cultural identity is obsolete, why else is India becoming so Westernized? The very concept of being "Modern" in your primitive Culture is influenced by Westernization.

Hahahaha, dumb idiot, keep denying the reality that different ethnic groups in the same race is NOT RACE MIXING, you are more mixed than I am. I am 99.6% Caucasoid, you are 75-80% maximum, you are more mixed than I am, it doesn't matter how long ago that ancestry was accumulated, it still makes you mixed.

You are a weak triggered little bitch who is in denial about being mixed race, you have a small penis, you are a university dropout, you have no job, your parents are probably ashamed of you but maybe the Gujarati inbred Patel clan can hook you up with some Motel/Hotel job. You already failed in life and have no will to unfuck your life since you are a mentally ill autist with a low IQ and aspergers, dropout.

Hyper emotional opinions from a weak timid small dick losers is irrelevant my previous posts debunks your delusions retard. You were online when I logged on idiot, I slept from 2pm-9pm.

You define inferiority, all you can do is mention other Indians cringeworthy annoying loser.

magnus if fracal
can hook you up his sister
would you go for it ?

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

1) It has been established that ASI is a mixed, I believe is is 1/3 Caucasoid.

2) You cherry pick photo's, the native population of India are East Asians, Adavasi's and Onge, they are the primary groups.

The majority of Adavasi clearly shows they are a mixed group, they are not Caucasoid at all. They look like a mix of Australoids, Onge and East Asians.

There is such thing as pure Caucasoid genetically, I know it is discouraged to associate ancestral genetics with physical anthropology. Still, reality remains, you can still associate different population components with one of the main races if that component is a pure one. No one questions that the original Neolithic Farmers, Mesolithic Europeans or IndoEuropeans were Non-Caucasoid.

Having noise admixture is irrelevant, under 5% admixture from another race means nothing.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Oa3bBts6e3...14_EDF3_K6.png Look how mixed South Asians are, I didn't wanna believe this, I never did, far too much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/201...sis-at-k6.html

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid

biorxiv.org/content/biorxiv/suppl/2014/04/02/001552.DC3/001552-1.pdf


http://www.harappadna.org/2011/06/ca...lly-arbitrary/

http://www.harappadna.org/2011/04/re...admixture-k11/ I trust these results, they specialize in South Asian DNA, many North Africans are here, they are more racially pure. The K11 is a good analysis.

It depends on the individual and which South Asian ethnic group. There are many South Asian ethnic groups that are less racially pure than North Africans. You are clearly bias.

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Native populations of India were Veddoid racial type and in most of India.

East Asians and Onge were never natives to India (before the unification of India ). Onge lived in the Andaman islands and East Asian in India were migrants from Burma and China's Yunnan mountain.

Sorry but the admixture Indian people have is already proto-Caucasoid

ONGE Components in India WERE NEVER THAT HIGH, it's non-existant in many population however those that do have this ASI admixture is NOT TRUELY ONGE it sometimes just stupidly labelled as "Onge" to include all Australoid, Negrito different types group even though the admixture Indians have nothing to do with the Negrito of Andaman island.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...3/10/roma2.png

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

The ASI is definately not Proto-Caucasoid. Do you really think Onge and Australoids are Proto-Caucasoids? Proto-Caucasoids are Cro-Magnons.

Indigenous South Asians= Onge, Australoid, Adavasi

The Adavasi group is mixed, Vedda's are included in the Adavasi group, some of them may have more Caucasoid looking people but the majority of them do not resemble Caucasoids and have 80% or more Non-Caucasoid admixture.

You really think these people are more racially pure and more Caucasoid than North Africans? Hahahaha.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...n%2C_India.jpg

http://www.thecitizen.in//NewsImages/598123INDIA.jpg

http://www.thehansindia.com/assets/4721_aua.jpg

http://www.pajhra.org/wp-content/upl...5/DSC00960.jpg


https://www.google.com/search?biw=14....0.8NeXUK-u43E


More pictures here.

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You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/al...n-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/53...0fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/29...45946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...dian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpre...tenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...Sungir_man.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

I do see a resemblance

http://www.sciencemag.org/sites/defa...es/sn-bust.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...Veddah_Man.jpg

Even genetically it has some Veddoid influence.

Some info from Genetiker
https://genetiker.wordpress.com/2014...nki-14-genome/

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MDLP Ancient Roots K17

21.63% Ancestral_East_European_ANE
14.90% Ancestral_South_Indian
12.58% West_European_HG
9.94% African_Sub_Saharian
9.13% Ancestral_North_Indian
8.40% Ancestral_Mediterranean_EEF
4.08% South_East_Asian
3.96% Melano-Austronesian
3.73% Amerindian
2.93% Caucasian-Basal
2.78% Ancestral_West_Siberian
2.43% Uralic
1.44% Ancestral_East_Siberian
1.41% Ancestral_Sami-Finnic
0.36% Circumpolar
0.15% Archaic_African
0.15% Near-East-Basal

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It was not fully Veddoid like its phenotype seem to be, but the point is a connection can be established. Earlier ones like Oase 1 had higher veddoid genes. Genetiker also said:

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Kostenki 14 lived a few thousand years after Oase 1 in Russia, and his smaller amounts of the Veddoid components and larger amounts of the Caucasoid components showed that he had partially ascended the evolutionary path from Veddoids to Caucasoids

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/al...n-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/53...0fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/29...45946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...dian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpre...tenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...Sungir_man.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

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So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

I don't care what people consider, I go by ancestral genetic evidence and Italians do not have significant amounts of SSA, Indians are more mixed.

You link that Cultural marxist left wing nonsense from Corporate owned BBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0UmtW2cl8 Debunked. He was Haplogroup L and they made him look like a Negroid.

You are citing all this outdated information debunked information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc7dhxXv9M&t Even if you don't wanna believe this, there is this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon Cro-Magnons were Proto-Caucasoids but I doubt this, I think there were various other populations who could have been refugees from Atlantis.


Caucasoid skull Mladec 1 (31,000 B.P., Czech Republic ).
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1GC/homo...c-1-DTF1GC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wJXUuVs.jpg

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

Native populations of India were Veddoid racial type and in most of India.

East Asians and Onge were never natives to India (before the unification of India ). Onge lived in the Andaman islands and East Asian in India were migrants from Burma and China's Yunnan mountain.

Sorry but the admixture Indian people have is already proto-Caucasoid

ONGE Components in India WERE NEVER THAT HIGH, it's non-existant in many population however those that do have this ASI admixture is NOT TRUELY ONGE it sometimes just stupidly labelled as "Onge" to include all Australoid, Negrito different types group even though the admixture Indians have nothing to do with the Negrito of Andaman island.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...3/10/roma2.png

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I know it is stupidly labeled as Onge, I never believed it was actual pure Onge. They use Onge as a reference population since they are a genetically isolated group. The Ancestral South Indian component itself is widely acknowledged to be a mixed one. You are in a fantasy land trying to prove Proto-Caucasoids come from India, you don't realize that the origins of human kind are under a strict band of secrecy and there is no acknowledgement of Esoteric history of Atlantis and Lumeria, of course most people on this forum don't look at these things and are only concerned with mainstream views.

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I https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/al...n-europans.jpg[

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I doubt the girl on the right is Indian.

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I doubt the girl on the right is Indian.

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She has euro nose.

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She has euro nose.

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What is a "euro nose"? This forum has hordes of people who make stupid posts. I can recall several times in the past I have seen Indian girls with white girls and the Indians had what I think are more attractive Caucasoid noses, long and straight. Here is 1 example. Many Europeans also have big noses. Indians generally do have bigger noses.

https://i.imgur.com/eUa4VsE.jpg

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/al...n-europans.jpg
http://farm1.staticflickr.com/207/53...0fe_z.jpg?zz=1
https://s33.postimg.org/hbgzchcov/29...45946074_n.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...dian_woman.JPG



Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

https://rperon1017blog.files.wordpre...tenki-man1.jpg
http://realhistoryww.com/world_histo...Sungir_man.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDXBv_k6gNY

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Stop wasting your time with that Italian new world Euro mix.

He is inferior to Aryans in just about every measure except cyber trolling.

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Originally Posted by Fractal

Stop wasting your time with that Italian new world Euro mix.

He is inferior to Aryans in just about every measure except cyber trolling.

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Cyber trolling is what you do, I go by facts and ancestral genetic evidence, as you can see the other Indians make more intelligent posts than you. As a insecure 28 year old University dropout who has exposed how pathetic he is on this forum, you define inferiority. You can't even generate income for yourself, you ask me what my business is because you are at a loss and at a dead end in life, you lose, eternally.

You are just that annoying rat who makes stupid posts all the time.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

I don't care what people consider, I go by ancestral genetic evidence and Italians do not have significant amounts of SSA, Indians are more mixed.

You link that Cultural marxist left wing nonsense from Corporate owned BBC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2C0UmtW2cl8 Debunked. He was Haplogroup L and they made him look like a Negroid.

You are citing all this outdated information debunked information.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zXc7dhxXv9M&t Even if you don't wanna believe this, there is this fact.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cro-Magnon Cro-Magnons were Proto-Caucasoids but I doubt this, I think there were various other populations who could have been refugees from Atlantis.


Caucasoid skull Mladec 1 (31,000 B.P., Czech Republic ).
http://c8.alamy.com/comp/DTF1GC/homo...c-1-DTF1GC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wJXUuVs.jpg

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Fractals bias retard delusions aside, my point stands unchallenged.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

I know it is stupidly labeled as Onge, I never believed it was actual pure Onge. They use Onge as a reference population since they are a genetically isolated group. The Ancestral South Indian component itself is widely acknowledged to be a mixed one. You are in a fantasy land trying to prove Proto-Caucasoids come from India, you don't realize that the origins of human kind are under a strict band of secrecy and there is no acknowledgement of Esoteric history of Atlantis and Lumeria, of course most people on this forum don't look at these things and are only concerned with mainstream views.

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No. Please don't claim ancestral South Indian is acknowledge mixed. ASI is indigenous component to ancient India, always had been. Many European themselves said that ASI people have proto-Caucasoid phenotypes and tried to classify them as old-Europoids. Ancient Caucasoid people had more australoid-Veddoid like morphologies unlike Europeans today. ASI always had Caucasoid morphologies while other Australoid tribes such as the Onge, Negrito did not. Some Adivasi tribes also have some Onge admixture although in smaller proportions, they don't have pure Veddoid phenotypes that's why you sometimes see less Caucasoid-like morphologies in some of the tribes .

Australoid is stupid term to refer to all dark skinned indegenious people of southern parts of Asia from Arabia to Southeast Asia even though they all have different skull shapes.


One can easily distinguist ASI phenotypes with ONGE phenotypes easily


Let's look at this DNA chart again. Europe in this chart is also wrongly labeled as Europeans but at least they sorted the out the ASI and ONGE

Europe (Pink) = West Eurasian admixture. Europeans, West Asian, Southwest Asian
South Asia ( Green ) = South Asian population or indigenous ASI
Onge ( Blue ) = Onge/Great Adamanese related DNA


South Asian population are mixture of West Asian and ASI population.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...3/10/roma2.png



Pure Onge phenotypes such as the Jirawa in it's pure form 100% ONGE

http://assets.survivalinternational....dium.jpg?w=240
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Ima...8828734_20.jpg



Great Adamanese Phenotypes , mixture of Onge and South Asian ( personally I don't understand how Indians can mix with such ugly little 4'6 feet tall dwarfs but anyway they did )

Great Adamanese are only mix of 41-65% Onge DNA with the rest being mostly South Asian 35-68%, and also West Eurasian mostly 0% (with exception of minority with 1-8%)

Although their Onge phenotypes are dominant you can see they have more hair and somewhat more Caucasoid-like facial structure than a pure Onge. A few of them can even pass as South Asian. The ASI admixture made them distinguishable.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...9485465365.jpg


These ones look predominant Onge but still distinguishable from the pure ones. More growth of hair and more prominent nose compare with the wide noses of Onge.

https://assets.survivalinternational...005_screen.jpg
https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/...unior_2006.jpg

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

So cringeworthy, comparing clinical Albino's from India to Europeans implying "WE ARE WHITER THAN ITALIANS"!

I don't think ancestral genetics and Physical anthropology is the same, I believe you can associate specific admixture components with certain races if that component is not known to be a mixed one. I never said Caucasoid is by default "Europeans". Never have I implied or looked at skin color when deeming one Caucasoid or Non-Caucasoid, you are making things up, I never said or believed those things, all the pictures I linked were adavasi's who are mixed race and have non-Caucasoid facial features.

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That's because some Adavasi are not even pure ASI , they have some Onge admixture at 15-20%, others tribes even more than that at 30-40% but only minority of tribes have them, the majority of Adivasi of them don't have it. Onge admixture appears quite strong even in the Great Adamanese despite them heavily mixed, most people would think they are just another different types of Onge but they clearly have more body hair and prominent noses, their hair also appears less curly and sometimes more straight despite a overall Onge appearance in most of them.

Ancient Europeans, Ancient Caucasoid had a more Australoid-Veddoid morphologies, although stupid anthropologist like to label veddoid and australoid together even they acknowledge that Veddoid have different skull type and resembles ancient-Europoid.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

No. Please don't claim ancestral South Indian is acknowledge mixed. ASI is indigenous component to ancient India, always had been. Many European themselves said that ASI people have proto-Caucasoid phenotypes and tried to classify them as old-Europoids. Ancient Caucasoid people had more australoid-Veddoid like morphologies unlike Europeans today. ASI always had Caucasoid morphologies while other Australoid tribes such as the Onge, Negrito did not. Some Adivasi tribes also have some Onge admixture although in smaller proportions, they don't have pure Veddoid phenotypes that's why you sometimes see less Caucasoid-like morphologies in some of the tribes .

Australoid is stupid term to refer to all dark skinned indegenious people of southern parts of Asia from Arabia to Southeast Asia even though they all have different skull shapes.


One can easily distinguist ASI phenotypes with ONGE phenotypes easily


Let's look at this DNA chart again. Europe in this chart is also wrongly labeled as Europeans but at least they sorted the out the ASI and ONGE

Europe (Pink) = West Eurasian admixture. Europeans, West Asian, Southwest Asian
South Asia ( Green ) = South Asian population or indigenous ASI
Onge ( Blue ) = Onge/Great Adamanese related DNA


South Asian population are mixture of West Asian and ASI population.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/gn...3/10/roma2.png



Pure Onge phenotypes such as the Jirawa in it's pure form 100% ONGE

http://assets.survivalinternational....dium.jpg?w=240
http://www.aljazeera.com/mritems/Ima...8828734_20.jpg



Great Adamanese Phenotypes , mixture of Onge and South Asian ( personally I don't understand how Indians can mix with such ugly little 4'6 feet tall dwarfs but anyway they did )

Great Adamanese are only mix of 41-65% Onge DNA with the rest being mostly South Asian 35-68%, and also West Eurasian mostly 0% (with exception of minority with 1-8%)

Although their Onge phenotypes are dominant you can see they have more hair and somewhat more Caucasoid-like facial structure than a pure Onge. A few of them can even pass as South Asian. The ASI admixture made them distinguishable.

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2016/...9485465365.jpg


These ones look predominant Onge but still distinguishable from the pure ones. More growth of hair and more prominent nose compare with the wide noses of Onge.

https://assets.survivalinternational...005_screen.jpg
https://rapidiq.files.wordpress.com/...unior_2006.jpg

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I am not gonna go with some old 19th century European pseudo delusions with physical anthropology. Cro-Magnons are proto-Caucasoids, not Veddoid. I get the impression you are trying to prove Indians are pure Caucasoids by implying the original population was Proto-Caucasoid.


The Adivasi are the result Dravidian Caucasaoids who mixed with the original Indigenous non-Caucasoid ASI. No conclusions can be drawn until the Harrapan paper is released, I hope they don't have a bias with Cultural marxist delusions to scew Haplogroup results without finding the final Haplogroup within the phylogenetics tree. It has been acknowledged that the original Indigenous population in India doesn't exist anymore, they were genocided and conquered through mass invasion, mixing and assimilation by Dravidian Caucasoids.

The Dravidian Caucasoids most likely waged war against the natives and mixed with them in mass.

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_im...DEL-783101.png

No one is pure race in the first place unless you are completely isolated.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

I am not gonna go with some old 19th century European pseudo delusions with physical anthropology. Cro-Magnons are proto-Caucasoids, not Veddoid. I get the impression you are trying to prove Indians are pure Caucasoids by implying the original population was Proto-Caucasoid.


The Adivasi are the result Dravidian Caucasaoids who mixed with the original Indigenous non-Caucasoid ASI. No conclusions can be drawn until the Harrapan paper is released, I hope they don't have a bias with Cultural marxist delusions to scew Haplogroup results without finding the final Haplogroup within the phylogenetics tree. It has been acknowledged that the original Indigenous population in India doesn't exist anymore, they were genocided and conquered through mass invasion, mixing and assimilation by Dravidian Caucasoids.

The Dravidian Caucasoids most likely waged war against the natives and mixed with them in mass.

http://www.gnxp.com/blog/uploaded_im...DEL-783101.png

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Your chart doesn't prove anything.

There's no proof cro-magnum are proto-Caucasoids as in ancestors of all Caucasoids. Ancient Europeans even have morphology more closer to modern day South Asians than to modern Europeans. Most Adivasi themselves do not have west Eurasian admixture, they have mostly ASI DNA admixture, only some groups of them have higher Onge admixture more than others.

ASI is Caucasoid morphology phenotype group but were NON-WEST EURASIAN genetically but some of the tribes today from the Adivasi groups have East Asian, Onge admixture to different degrees which altered their their phenotypes.

Sorry to break to you. Dravidians Caucasoids which are indigenous to India were always a pure ASI genetically people although modern Dravidians speakers all have portions West Eurasian admixture pure ASI phenotypes can still be seen only Southern India even it's west Eurasian DNA are from NORTHERN INDIANS mass migration to the South which is nothing related with Europe or Middle east what so ever.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

Your chart doesn't prove anything.

There's no proof cro-magnum are proto-Caucasoids as in ancestors of all Caucasoids. Ancient Europeans even have morphology more closer to modern day South Asians than to modern Europeans. Most Adivasi themselves do not have west Eurasian admixture, they have mostly ASI DNA admixture, only some groups of them have higher Onge admixture more than others.

ASI is Caucasoid morphology phenotype group but were NON-WEST EURASIAN genetically but some of the tribes today from the Adivasi groups have East Asian, Onge admixture to different degrees which altered their their phenotypes.

Sorry to break to you. Dravidians Caucasoids which are indigenous to India were always a pure ASI genetically people although modern Dravidians speakers all have portions West Eurasian admixture pure ASI phenotypes can still be seen only Southern India even it's west Eurasian DNA are from NORTHERN INDIANS mass migration to the South which is nothing related with Europe or Middle east what so ever.

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I don't believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA) The ancestor is Haplogroup GHIJK which came from South West Asia. Of course you ignored all the evidence I presented in the previous videos, it was a lot to watch, all cited sources, seems like you believe the Out of India theory.

From cranial morphology , there is enough evidence they were Caucasoid. http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/201...t-negroid.html I am not interested in this debate anymore. Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

I don't believe that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_H_(Y-DNA) The ancestor is Haplogroup GHIJK which came from South West Asia. Of course you ignored all the evidence I presented in the previous videos, it was a lot to watch, all cited sources, seems like you believe the Out of India theory.

From cranial morphology , there is enough evidence they were Caucasoid. http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/201...t-negroid.html I am not interested in this debate anymore. Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

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So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

Mentioning Proto-Caucasoids a lot is getting into a debate on human origins, something that is not fully known since the Out of Africa theory is widely regarded to be nonsense, the Out of India theory is nonsense to.

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Even if we don't believe in the Indian theory the fact the matters is that ancient population of Central Asia, West Asia, Southwest Asia had a ancient veddoid population, this explains why there is existing small Veddoid component found in all those regions.

American anthropologist Jill Priest and Danigala Vedda Chief Randunu Wanniya ( notice the overall similarity in their head structure? )

http://vedda.org/pix/priest&ratugala-chief600.jpg


Proto-Caucasoid Veddoids in it's perfect form

http://www.serendib.btoptions.lk/cpa...a%209.jpg.JPEG
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XoCl-pX-mu4/hqdefault.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ed/1b/93/e...50857ff083.jpg

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

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I don't know why racial reality is considered "Pseudo Science" when all the sources are cited. The Apricity site has pseudo-science rejected by the entire scientific community.

http://greek-dna-sub-saharan-myth.org/

While recent studies prove the opposite. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...nt-dna-reveals

I would rather see ancestral genetic evidence with these people than go by Phenotype, the vast majority of Arabs have 5-10% Sub Saharan admixture depending on the person and some could have more.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

I don't know why racial reality is considered "Pseudo Science" when all the sources are cited. The Apricity site has pseudo-science rejected by the entire scientific community.

http://greek-dna-sub-saharan-myth.org/

While recent studies prove the opposite. http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/...nt-dna-reveals

I would rather see ancestral genetic evidence with these people than go by Phenotype, the vast majority of Arabs have 5-10% Sub Saharan admixture depending on the person and some could have more.

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It's pseudo-Science because the idiot blogger bans people's comment for criticizing his own wild interpretations of the genetic study according to his own believes, that's how pathetic he is.

They also have 5-10% South Asian admixture and Sub-Saharan admixture can be as low 2-3% in many Arabs as aswell.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29o5qj5.jpg

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

You know what's the problem with your head?


1) You think genetic and anthropologically is the same thing

2) You think Caucasoid is by default Europeans

3) You do not even know what the original Caucasoid or west Eurasian genetically look like



ASI people have Caucasoid like morphology. The problem with you is you judge those pictures in those people as non-Caucasoid for their skin color and appearance.

Their morphology is Caucasoid and skin color is just a superficial trait. Even these albino will make your Italians look like non-Europeans since many people considers Italian especially south Italian as Arabian/North African mixed for their darker skin, dark hair and eyes.

https://s16.postimg.org/5ahjf3vdh/al...n-europans.jpg
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Also let me give you an idea what ancient proto-Caucasoids look like


Ancient Caucasoid morphologies in Europe are different to the ones in Europe today.

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Are you sure girl on right side is Indian? It is unlikely (not totally impossible I suppose) she is South Asian. I searched in Google, but could not find out who exactly she is, but probably she is Russian, Czech or German as she was on their sites including on a Nazi German site as an example of a Aryan.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

It's pseudo-Science because the idiot blogger bans people's comment for criticizing his own wild interpretations of the study, that's how pathetic he is.

They also have 5-10% South Asian admixture and Sub-Saharan admixture can be as low 2-3% in many Arabs as aswell.

http://i48.tinypic.com/29o5qj5.jpg

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That is what I thought with this. So much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/201...sis-at-k6.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/001552-2.pdf On this, it yielded similar results for the K6.

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid If you can't zoom in on it, it is here.

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Originally Posted by turbosat

Are you sure girl on right side is Indian? It is unlikely (not totally impossible I suppose) she is South Asian. I searched in Google, but could not find out who exactly she is, but probably she is Russian, Czech or German as she was on their sites including on a Nazi German site as an example of a Aryan.

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Well all I did was just type "Indian albino" or "Veddoid albino" in google's images and she showed up. Her hairstyle is typical of many young Indian school girls.

I would believe she's real because I saw many Indians looking something like that, there are some who are not even albino but depigmented but look straight up like a North European.

I've seen them in a Indian TV documentary plenty of times.

Kamna, age 5, with her parents

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...2155__2__0.jpg
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...403_122120.jpg


Not even albino at all, just depigmented. Albino skin color are way more whiter than this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/5b...1885336ded.jpg

This is an albino, very white skinned. She looks like a Northern European girl or even look like European girl suffering albinism even though she's Indian. Most people can't distinguish many Indian albino and European albino from eachother.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/medias.photo...077_xlarge.jpg

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

That is what I thought with this. So much non-Caucasoid admixture.

http://racialreality.blogspot.ca/201...sis-at-k6.html

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/bior...1/001552-2.pdf On this, it yielded similar results for the K6.

https://imgur.com/a/c7Eid If you can't zoom in on it, it is here.

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I'm not even going to read those links because it's getting so off topic. Do you even understand the original point of my thread ?

I'm not here to discuss where proto-Caucasoid originated. I'm only proving that South Asians are as Caucasoid as any other populations anthropologically.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

I'm not even going to read those links because it's getting so off topic. Do you even understand the original point of my thread ?

I'm not here to discuss where proto-Caucasoid originated. I'm only proving that South Asians are as Caucasoid as any other populations anthropologically.

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Which is 100% wrong and why you constantly cherry pic photo's of Individuals from isolated Tribes that look Caucasoid, it's obvious they were a mixed group. ASI is a mixed component.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5331473/1/ I was reading through this.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

Which is 100% wrong and why you constantly cherry pic photo's of Individuals from isolated Tribes that look Caucasoid, it's obvious they were a mixed group. ASI is a mixed component.

http://s1.zetaboards.com/anthroscape/topic/5331473/1/ I was reading through this.

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You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

So your source is a blog from a racist pseudo-scientist blogger from racial reality ?

There is no living human being with Haplogroup GHIJK and there's far more chance of it being Veddoid origin since even in ancient South West Asia were inhabited by Veddoid-like population since ancient time even our own very theapricity says that

https://www.theapricity.com/snpa/chapter-XI6.htm <------------- FROM THEAPRICITY, an established facts , not a thread.

Veddoid types from Arabia , even in Central Asia, the earliest humans were of Veddoid types and there were threads about it with anthropology Russian data, which explains why there is a existence of little bit of South Asian DNA

VEDDOIDS FROM ARABIA

http://britam.org/pic2/veddoid.jpg
http://i61.tinypic.com/1j6wco.png
http://i62.tinypic.com/119z9c6.png

Veddoid strain and phenotypes can also be found in Arabia, and the Arabs do have a small Veddoid component themselves, it seems a lot higher in a few people though

http://i46.tinypic.com/20pxcly.jpg
http://i45.tinypic.com/vnf0xe.jpg

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Yupppp. Eickstedt even placed Veddoids among the 'old-Europid race' which is probably why we all have some of that 'Indian' blood.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8

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Nvm this is just dumb dude.

Those albinos aren't even anthropologically veddoid to begin with.

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Originally Posted by Keraunos

Nvm this is just dumb dude.

Those albinos aren't even anthropologically veddoid to begin with.

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All South Asians have Veddoid admixture to different degrees. One thing I'm sure, is a Veddoid people 100000000 times more chance looking like a European albino than a Sub-Saharan or Mongoloid.

A Veddoid mix with a European can look 100% Caucasoid compared with a Sub-Saharan and Mongoloid who mix with them. That's because Veddoid itself is a old Europoid, proto-Caucasoid morphology population.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

You're becoming a more and more pseudo-science user. I suggest you focus more on your studies.

What was the point of that pseudo-science thread ? Blue = West Eurasian admixture. No one ever said it was Caucasoid except for idiot blogger.

ANSWER ME THIS: Which of the three races that Italian mix race will come out with pure caucasoid phenotypes. 1) A sub-Saharan, 2) Mongoloid, 3) Veddoid ?

THE ANSWER IS VEDDOID !!!!


Don't believe ? than have a look at this video. A Black albino and Mongoloid albino/or depigmented people can never look European even if they have all kinds of eyes/hair color but a Veddoid always can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjBlZl8RON8

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The gene for Albinism isn't the same, it exists in all races.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/oc...neous-albinism

http://www.livescience.com/41040-ski...ied-india.html 80-87% of NorthIndian have the gene, 30% of South Indians do , around 95% of Europeans do.

Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

You are linking Pseudo-Science now with stupid Afrocentric videos.

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Originally Posted by MagnusAurelius

The gene for Albinism isn't the same, it exists in all races.

https://ghr.nlm.nih.gov/condition/oc...neous-albinism

http://www.livescience.com/41040-ski...ied-india.html 80-87% of NorthIndian have the gene, 30% of South Indians do , around 95% of Europeans do.

Indians and Europeans Share 'Light-Skin' Mutation

You are linking Pseudo-Science now idiot with stupid Afrocentric videos.

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The video proves my point that South Asians can look a European Caucasoid unlike the negroids and Mongoloids. If North Africans, Turks, Horn of Africans are considered Caucasoid than South Asians are absolutely considered Caucasoid.

Caucasoid is a anthropological type not a genetic type. Skin color, eye color, hair color are all superficial traits. A pure Caucasoid is decided by his phenotypes features and head structure not his genetics because populations like north Africans are considered Caucasoid but have admixture from non-Caucasoid facial structure people such as the Sub-Saharans and Central Asian Turks like Turkmen are heavily mixed with Mongoloid ( another non-Caucasoid facial structure people ).

South Asians have both Caucasoid anthropology type west Eurasian and ancient ASI proto-Caucasoid phenotypes so in a scientific sense they are far more Caucasoid many other Caucasoids outside of South Asia, the only thing people think they aren't as Caucasoid is because they judge them by their skin color and their ASI proto-Caucasoid admixture.

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

Well all I did was just type "Indian albino" or "Veddoid albino" in google's images and she showed up. Her hairstyle is typical of many young Indian school girls.

I would believe she's real because I saw many Indians looking something like that, there are some who are not even albino but depigmented but look straight up like a North European.

I've seen them in a Indian TV documentary plenty of times.

Kamna, age 5, with her parents

http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...2155__2__0.jpg
http://mediad.publicbroadcasting.net...403_122120.jpg


Not even albino at all, just depigmented. Albino skin color are way more whiter than this.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b1/5b...1885336ded.jpg

This is an albino, very white skinned. She looks like a Northern European girl or even look like European girl suffering albinism even though she's Indian. Most people can't distinguish many Indian albino and European albino from eachother.

http://s3.amazonaws.com/medias.photo...077_xlarge.jpg

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That other girl I suppose might still be Indian, but imo less likely. She was on a Czech site webpage discussing albinism, and on a Russian website and a German Nazi website as being from league of Nazi women or something like that. Germans and East Europeans (including older girls) can have that hair style as well as Indians usually young school girls.

Kamna 5 looks depigmented rather than albino but it would be good if someone like her was tested to see if she has any kind of albinism. I have personally seen a few albinos including an English lady and one or two Indians. They were all without any pigmentation, but I have read albinos are not always completely without pigmentation.

These Indians in USA have adopted these white children. IMO white children like this should not be given for adoption to non-white families for adoption.
The first albino girl in your post girl looks more like these children than looking Indian.
http://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/...2900115f05.jpg

I have seen 100% West Eurasian results on Gedmatch before

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Originally Posted by ButlerKing

The video proves my point that South Asians can look a European Caucasoid unlike the negroids and Mongoloids. If North Africans, Turks, Horn of Africans are considered Caucasoid than South Asians are absolutely considered Caucasoid.

Caucasoid is a anthropological type not a genetic type. Skin color, eye color, hair color are all superficial traits. A pure Caucasoid is decided by his phenotypes features and head structure not his genetics because populations like north Africans are considered Caucasoid but have admixture from non-Caucasoid facial structure people such as the Sub-Saharans and Central Asian Turks like Turkmen are heavily mixed with Mongoloid ( another non-Caucasoid facial structure people ).

South Asians have both Caucasoid anthropology type west Eurasian and ancient ASI proto-Caucasoid phenotypes so in a scientific sense they are far more Caucasoid many other Caucasoids outside of South Asia, the only thing people think they aren't as Caucasoid is because they judge them by their skin color and their ASI proto-Caucasoid admixture.

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You contradict yourself constantly trying to claim I post pseudo-science then you post pseudo-science. I know it is an anthropological type, you are implying that South Asians are more Caucasoid, this is all pseudo nonsense. Ancestral genetic facts don't correlate with your fantasies and many South Asians have non-Caucasoid morphology.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-lCSzj8OWlr...L_1531724f.jpg

http://www.cultcha.org/archives/pics...ghat-thumb.jpg

You say "Italian mix race" , you believe this pseudo-fantasy world, South Asians are not more racially pure than Italians.

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I have seen 100% West Eurasian results on Gedmatch before

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There's no such thing as 100% West Eurasian...... every European since ancient time have at least 0.0001% of non-West Eurasian DNA since the Neolithic times of Europe. You can only be 99.99998% West Eurasian and some people will label 100% but it's been proven pure west Eurasian genetic structure no longer exist.