Not fully 100% but it should be dominant, much higherQuote:
Originally Posted by gültekin
Like 70%ish
Lol wtf
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Not fully 100% but it should be dominant, much higherQuote:
Originally Posted by gültekin
Like 70%ish
Lol wtf
share your results don't be shy ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Maintenance
we love you the way you are it doesn't matter .... :)
it can't. apples and nutts is in same basketQuote:
Originally Posted by Eggyolk
True. Druze and Chechen should not be in the same groupQuote:
Originally Posted by gültekin
93% Ashkenazi, 5% East Mediterranean, 2% North Italy
we were roman and stuff :dancing:Quote:
Originally Posted by Longbowman
They should create an caucasus component which only georgians abkhaz and chechens included.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eggyolk
they should also create another component with armenians druze and iranians.
Very interesting! In my case they took me off the 1% Asian... curious...
https://i.imgur.com/8cwGpgq.png
brother: :hug2:
29%
Ashkenazi Jewish
24%
Eastern Mediterranean
15%
Anatolia, Caucasus, Iranian Plateau
14%
Middle East
8%
Northern Italy
7%
Southwestern Europe
2%
Finland
1%
Northeast Asia
wow 97%Quote:
Originally Posted by Anakin
I don't think this is accurate at all, the worst calculator for me so far, although I get quite different results on all of them. Calculators feel quite pointless at this stage with inconsistent results. How is 8% northern British even possible for someone with 50% Scottish ancestry? the other 50% being Irish.
71% Northern and Central Europe
16% Scandinavia
8% Northern British Isles
5% Northern Italy
Hi Albannach - They appear to have put some of your Northern British Isles into Scandinavia. Also Northern and Central Europe is Irish, British and German.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
These are my results:
68% Northern and Central Europe
21% Northern British Isles
11% Scandinavia
Wow 21% Northern British Isles! though to be fair I have seen Poles with twice as much as me. Not sure what the Northern British isles cluster even represents, or what makes it distinct from the Northern and Central Europe cluster? maybe some kind of Celtic/Scandinavian hybrid?
Yeah I got 15%. Poles are the new Brits. LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
The calc cant be very good, Im half British and it gives me 5 % North British ...Litvin is more British than me .Quote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
:thumb001:Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
But remember that Northern and Central Europe also includes British and Irish:
Northern and Central Europe
Reference populations: British, Irish, German.
Northern British Isles
Reference populations: British, Orcadian, Scottish.
I wonder what's the difference between 1st British and 2nd British references?
Calc is good, Brexit was bad. Poles are more British than Brits! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by oszkar07
My NW Euro is apparently very Un-German. So I get North British in Gencove, Scando in K29 Geneplaza, Danish in DNA.Tribes. Instead of German. It predates the "Ostsiedlung". Probably from ancient Celts and Goths.
Previous: 100% East-Med
Current: 93% East Med, 7% North Italy
lol :rotfl:Quote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
what about eastern poles can you please ask mlukasz to upload his raw data to this gencove nounsense :)
Yeah that's what I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
Northern British looks like Celtic (maybe only Caledonian?) + some Germanic but without any continental Istvaeonic and Irminonic (which are groups ancestral to most Germans). BTW, here are my results in K47 calculator:
2.10% North-Iberian
0.80% East-Iberian
0.10% North-African
4.31% South-Caucasian
0.12% North-Caucasian
1.33% Paleo-Balkan
3.56% East-Med
30.09% East-Euro
13.82% North-Sea_Germanic
12.88% Celtic
6.02% West-Finnic
7.09% Scando-Germanic
0.05% Iranian
11.95% Baltic
1.41% West-Med
0.83% Pamirian
3.54% Central-Med
By the way, North Britain and Poland used to have related Celtic tribes:
Lugidunon / Lugidunum (= Legnica or Głogów, in Poland)
Luguvalium (= Carlisle in Cumbria, in northern England)
Lugudunum / Lugdunum (= Lyon, in Rhône-Alpes, France)
Lugdunum Batavorum (= Leiden, in Zuid-Holland, the Netherlands)
Lugdunum Convenarum (= Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges)
Celtic ethnoses called Lugii (later Lugiorum nomen - the Lugian federation), Lugi, Luggones and Lougei lived in these three areas:
1) Poland:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lugii
"The Lugii (or Legii, Lugi, Lygii, Ligii, Lugiones, Lygians, Ligians, Lugians, or Lougoi) were a large tribal confederation mentioned by Roman authors living in ca. 100 BC–300 AD in Central Europe, north of the Sudetes mountains in the basin of upper Oder and Vistula rivers, covering most of modern south and middle Poland (regions of Silesia, Greater Poland, Mazovia and Little Poland)."
2) North Britain:
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...lemy/2/2*.html
"(...) from the Lemannonis bay as far as the Varar estuary are the Caledoni, and above these is the Caledonian forest, from which toward the east are the Decantae, and next to these the Lugi extending to the Cornavi boundary, and above the Lugi are the Smertae; below Caledonia are the Vacomagi, among whom are the following towns (...)"
3) Iberia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astures#Origins
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pre-Ro...ninsula#Celtic
"The Transmontani, placed between the Navia River and the central massif of the Picos de Europa, comprised the Cabarci, Iburri, Luggones, Paesici, Paenii, Saelini, Vinciani, Viromenici, Brigaentini and Baedunienses; the Cismontani comprised the Amaci, Cabruagenigi, Lancienses, Lougei, Tiburi, Orniaci, Superatii, Gigurri, Zoelae and Susarri (which dwelled around Asturica Augusta, in the Astura river valley, and was the main Astur town in Roman times). Prior to the Roman conquest in the late 1st century BC, they were united into a tribal federation with the mountain-top citadel of Asturica (Astorga) as their capital."
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I'm guessing that Northern Britain has no any Wesser-Rhine and Elbe Germanic ancestry (and probably their Celtic represents Caledonians):
https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qim...c5487ecbfd179c
for peeps who have imgur blocked
https://i.hizliresim.com/W76MBQ.png
Gaelic ancestry will be counted as "Northern and Central" because Gaels came from Ireland. So Gaelic is not part of "North British", I guess.
You know I'm just trying to rationalize this.
Another explanation is that it is just crap.
probablyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
:clap2:
If we apply Ockham's razor principle then yes. OTOH, I do have Scottish Y-DNA matches (Chisholms and Olivers) as my closest matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
Orcadians are essentially a Caledonian/Norwegian hybrid so it would make sense that is what the Northern British isles cluster is I suppose. But I'm still mystified How people who have no links to Scotland can get far more than me when I'm from the place, doesn't really make sense, and neither does my 5% Northern Italian.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
I don't think because the tribes ect have names that start with Lug necessarily means they were related. Lug or in Gaelic Lugh was a celtic god, so it's more likely that they worshipped the same deities and that is where they got their name from. Although it is possible I suppose when you consider how far spread the Celts were. Interestingly I seem to be quite close to Czech on a few Gedmatch calculators.
Talking about calculators, where can I get the K47 Calculator? is it on Gedmatch?
joe pickrell algoritm took all my slavic genesQuote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino
no forgivness :cry
i prefer k29 or even dna tribes snp even my origins 2.0 with the lousy sefhardic refernce is better :coffee:
Romans! :) But where did my Northern Italian come from? LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
It's not on GEDmatch. You can run it on your computer using DIY.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
Or you can send me your raw data and I'll run it for you.
Norwegians apparently have some Polish-like DNA, according to this new study on Irish genetics (see Supplementary Figure 6. below):Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17124-4
https://static-content.springer.com/...MOESM1_ESM.pdf
https://i.imgur.com/b8tknJM.png
It's weird how Non-Swedish Norwegians are. So much closer to Danes?
A totally mess in my case. I got 38% native american and my western african just dissapears LOL. And they added 12% of northern italy.
Maybe Iceland shouldn't really be part of Scandinavian cluster because they are a mix of Scandinavian and British-Irish ancestry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galatians_(people)Quote:
Originally Posted by Hadouken
It seems better than previous version however it is still an awful calculator.
a person from other forum who all his ancestors
from southwest germany and western germany :
northen and central europe -48%
southwestern europe 26%
scandinavia 11%
northeast europe 9%
northen italy 4%
2% northeast asia could be noise or something
I would like to see his results.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingjohn
But here is a comparison of our K47 results (I'm TomFTDNA):
https://i.imgur.com/Be06NKD.png
vv_rus = Russian*
Lukasz = Eastern Pole
TomFTDNA= Western Pole
celticgerman = German
PCA with PC1 and PC2 (but don't be too quick to think in a "geographical way", as these 2 components load only 59% of the total variance; in order to see 100% of the total variance with K47, we would need to see 47 dimensions):
https://i.imgur.com/Be06NKD.png
*Mother from Central Russia, father from North-West Russia.
Slovak1 is Karol.Klacansky's dad.
Check your e-mail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albannach
BTW, I uploaded VCF file from Gencove to Genesis Gedmach and my results are really funny.
Thanks mate!. The results are much what I was expecting really, thought I might get a bit more Celtic but the results are overall very similar to Gedmatch calculators I have used. Except the Urallic and Finnic which is something I've never seen in any results so far. My Scandanavian seems to be quite consistent on most calculators, between 13%-16% and I imagine the Finnic was probably brought with the Vikings too. Thanks for taking the time to do this for me Litvin, much appreciated.Quote:
Originally Posted by El Litvino