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Many of them don't express alot of disagreement with you actualyQuote:
Originally Posted by Sikeliot
They may disagree with your intepretiaton of Greek phenotypes what you say about Slav
influence and so on but not with your representation of Greeks, they actualy even like it i would say
2 from BergamoQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
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Brescia
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Pavia
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Ticino
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Udine
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Very cool. The Venetians are the most North European. It's so refreshing to see other Italians, we are being bombarded with half Lebanese Arab-Norman-Greek results.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
I have one Lombardian (H1m, R1b1b2a1a2d*)
Eurogenes K13 Oracle results:
Kit M123550
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 35.76
2 West_Med 26.6
3 East_Med 22.17
4 Baltic 8.6
5 West_Asian 6.04
6 South_Asian 0.38
7 Red_Sea 0.26
8 East_Asian 0.19
9 Oceanian 0.01
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 5.74
2 Spanish_Andalucia 8.36
3 Spanish_Valencia 8.69
4 Spanish_Murcia 8.89
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.03
6 Tuscan 9.39
7 Portuguese 9.44
8 Spanish_Cataluna 10.17
9 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 10.54
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.75
11 Spanish_Galicia 11.2
12 Spanish_Aragon 12.39
13 Spanish_Cantabria 12.8
14 Southwest_French 14.59
15 West_Sicilian 15.65
16 French 15.74
17 Italian_Abruzzo 16.43
18 Greek_Thessaly 18.15
19 Romanian 20.16
20 Central_Greek 20.37
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 83.9% Spanish_Valencia + 16.1% Lebanese_Druze @ 3.57
2 75.6% Spanish_Valencia + 24.4% Italian_Jewish @ 3.63
3 81.4% Spanish_Valencia + 18.6% Cyprian @ 3.65
4 72.4% Spanish_Valencia + 27.6% South_Italian @ 3.66
5 84.4% Spanish_Valencia + 15.6% Lebanese_Christian @ 3.85
6 76.3% Spanish_Valencia + 23.7% Sephardic_Jewish @ 3.87
7 66.3% Spanish_Valencia + 33.7% West_Sicilian @ 4.01
8 52.4% Spanish_Valencia + 47.6% Tuscan @ 4.07
9 67.5% Spanish_Valencia + 32.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 4.09
10 77% Spanish_Valencia + 23% Algerian_Jewish @ 4.17
11 85.1% Spanish_Valencia + 14.9% Assyrian @ 4.2
12 84.3% Spanish_Valencia + 15.7% Samaritan @ 4.21
13 85.5% Spanish_Valencia + 14.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4.22
14 58.1% Tuscan + 41.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 4.26
15 79.5% Spanish_Valencia + 20.5% Tunisian_Jewish @ 4.27
16 85.5% Spanish_Valencia + 14.5% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.27
17 83.3% Spanish_Valencia + 16.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.27
18 72.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 27.4% Italian_Jewish @ 4.29
19 72.5% Spanish_Valencia + 27.5% Central_Greek @ 4.32
20 75% Spanish_Valencia + 25% Ashkenazi @ 4.36
Dodecad K12b Oracle results:
Kit M123550
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 43.39
2 Caucasus 23.31
3 North_European 22.22
4 Southwest_Asian 5.51
5 Gedrosia 5.22
6 Southeast_Asian 0.26
7 East_African 0.08
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian (HGDP) 1.24
2 N_Italian (Dodecad) 2.71
3 TSI30 (Metspalu) 7.18
4 Tuscan (HGDP) 8.98
5 Baleares (1000Genomes) 10.47
6 O_Italian (Dodecad) 10.66
7 C_Italian (Dodecad) 12.67
8 Galicia (1000Genomes) 12.71
9 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 13.45
10 Murcia (1000Genomes) 14.06
11 Andalucia (1000Genomes) 14.26
12 Portuguese (Dodecad) 14.6
13 Spaniards (Behar) 14.7
14 Castilla_Y_Leon (1000Genomes) 15.05
15 Cataluna (1000Genomes) 15.56
16 Spanish (Dodecad) 16.24
17 Canarias (1000Genomes) 16.53
18 Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) 16.85
19 Valencia (1000Genomes) 16.92
20 Cantabria (1000Genomes) 17.09
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 98.1% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.9% Lezgins (Behar) @ 0.8
2 98.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.8% Chechens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.84
3 98.1% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.9% Kumyks (Yunusbayev) @ 0.88
4 98.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.7% Adygei (HGDP) @ 0.9
5 98.4% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.6% North_Ossetians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.91
6 98.4% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.6% Balkars (Yunusbayev) @ 0.92
7 98.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.7% Tajiks (Yunusbayev) @ 0.92
8 98.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.8% Turkmens (Yunusbayev) @ 0.94
9 98.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.7% Iranian (Dodecad) @ 0.95
10 98.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.7% Kurds (Yunusbayev) @ 0.96
11 98.7% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.3% Abhkasians (Yunusbayev) @ 0.96
12 98.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.8% Nogais (Yunusbayev) @ 0.96
13 98.4% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.6% Kurd (Dodecad) @ 0.97
14 76.7% North_Italian (HGDP) + 23.3% N_Italian (Dodecad) @ 0.97
15 98.4% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.6% Iranians (Behar) @ 0.98
16 98.8% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.2% Georgians (Behar) @ 0.98
17 98.8% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.2% Pathan (HGDP) @ 0.99
18 98.3% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.7% Turks (Behar) @ 1.01
19 98.9% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.1% Burusho (HGDP) @ 1.01
20 98.2% North_Italian (HGDP) + 1.8% Turkish (Dodecad) @ 1.02
the problem with this pseudo-scientific threads is that they take 1-2 individuals and pretend they represent a whole area. you need larger samples and I mean some dozens of individuals from each areas before drawing any conclusions. And that not accounting for paternity frauds.
This is quite obvious, especially for northern Italy which is less homogeneous and has considerable internal differences within it.Quote:
Originally Posted by caviezel
They are in the range of other northern Italians though. Some other results:Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Friuli
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Treviso/Vicenza
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Are there many Southern Italians in North Italy? What would be your estimation of the SI population in North Italy, including half Southerners.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
I do score more "Northern Italian" than these.
My results:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.99
2 Tuscan 8.63
3 Romanian 10.68
4 Greek_Thessaly 10.71
5 Bulgarian 10.91
6 Italian_Abruzzo 13.03
Potresti postare i risultati per intero, manca 0.6%..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
I am completly unrelated to North Italy but I have some come up on GED site.
and ZN7749899 (Tuscan HGDP01168) [HGDP (Stanford)]
Minimum segment threshold size to be included in total = 100 SNPs
Minimum segment cM to be included in total = 1.0 cM
Mismatch-bunching Limit will be adjusted dynamically to 60 percent of the segment threshold size for any given segment.
Largest segment = 8.2 cM
Total Half-Match segments (HIR) = 465.7 cM (12.994 Pct)
278 shared segments found for this comparison.
349088 SNPs used for this comparison.
52.549 Pct SNPs are full identical
on Ged Genesis
Software Version Dec 31 2018 22:51:52
Kit ZN7749899Quote:
Originally Posted by tipirneni
Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 ENF 43.36
2 WHG 30.85
3 CHG 23.76
4 Amerindian 0.72
5 Siberian 0.66
6 Sub-Saharan 0.34
7 E_Asian 0.31
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Italian_South 1.78
2 Tuscan 1.9
3 Albanian 4.64
4 Greek 5.4
5 Sicilian 7.11
6 Italian_North 7.73
7 Ashkenazi_Jew 8.88
8 Bulgarian 11.31
9 Spanish_Southwest 13.64
10 Sephardic_Jew 15.21
11 French 15.93
12 Spanish_Northeast 15.95
13 German_South 19.55
14 Cypriot 19.65
15 Croatian 19.77
16 Hungarian 21.33
17 Turkish_Aydin 21.51
18 Utahn_white 22.09
19 Irish 22.99
20 Sardinian 24.07
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 96.7% Tuscan + 3.3% BedouinB @ 1.14
2 90.9% Tuscan + 9.1% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.15
3 82.3% Tuscan + 17.7% Sicilian @ 1.16
4 72% Italian_North + 28% Cypriot @ 1.18
5 95.6% Tuscan + 4.4% Saudi @ 1.28
6 93.3% Tuscan + 6.7% Cypriot @ 1.28
7 94.8% Tuscan + 5.2% Lebanese @ 1.3
8 96% Tuscan + 4% Egyptian @ 1.33
9 95.3% Tuscan + 4.7% Jordanian @ 1.36
10 95.4% Tuscan + 4.6% Palestinian @ 1.36
11 66.6% Italian_North + 33.4% Sephardic_Jew @ 1.41
12 87.5% Tuscan + 12.5% Ashkenazi_Jew @ 1.44
13 95.6% Tuscan + 4.4% Syrian @ 1.46
14 96.4% Tuscan + 3.6% Iraqi_Jew @ 1.47
15 96.8% Tuscan + 3.2% Yemeni @ 1.51
16 96% Tuscan + 4% Assyrian @ 1.51
17 55.7% Italian_South + 44.3% Tuscan @ 1.56
18 97.4% Italian_South + 2.6% Turkish_Trabzon @ 1.63
19 96.8% Tuscan + 3.2% Tunisian @ 1.64
20 96.9% Tuscan + 3.1% Armenian @ 1.65
On NMonte I get some percent points for many of these populations on the Oracle also on Remedello_BA.
on GED some of those samples produce matches & many Italian names show up. Some Indian populations show these Sardinian element & Ashkenazi.
Gedmach results of a Veneto:
174784 SNPs
1 North_Atlantic 31.41
2 West_Med 23.71
3 Baltic 18.61
4 East_Med 18.32
5 West_Asian 5.33
6 Red_Sea 1.38
7 South_Asian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.24
9 East_Asian 0.22
10 Siberian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.57
2 Portuguese 10.49
3 Tuscan 10.82
4 Spanish_Galicia 11.25
5 Romanian 11.32
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.65
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
8 Serbian 11.97
9 Spanish_Valencia 12.02
10 Spanish_Murcia 12.41
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.44
12 Bulgarian 12.51
13 French 12.59
14 Spanish_Andalucia 13.04
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.83
16 Greek_Thessaly 14.14
17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.36
18 Southwest_French 15.04
19 West_German 15.91
20 Austrian 16.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Belorussian @ 2.01
2 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
3 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Lithuanian @ 2.03
4 81.3% North_Italian + 18.7% Ukrainian @ 2.15
5 80.7% North_Italian + 19.3% South_Polish @ 2.22
6 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.24
7 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Polish @ 2.24
8 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Estonian @ 2.25
9 51% Spanish_Valencia + 49% Bulgarian @ 2.26
10 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.27
11 76.2% North_Italian + 23.8% Croatian @ 2.46
12 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
13 81% North_Italian + 19% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5
14 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.66
15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.68
16 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Finnish @ 2.7
17 51.6% Romanian + 48.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.75
18 73.7% North_Italian + 26.3% Hungarian @ 2.77
19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Erzya @ 2.83
20 57.1% Bulgarian + 42.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.486324
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% Bulgarian +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.486324
Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Ashkenazi + Hungarian + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.342747
2 Ashkenazi + Danish + East_German + Sardinian @ 2.345288
3 Ashkenazi + Danish + Hungarian + Sardinian @ 2.378625
4 Danish + Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.397407
5 Ashkenazi + Austrian + Danish + Sardinian @ 2.416515
6 Italian_Jewish + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian @ 2.424055
7 Ashkenazi + Hungarian + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 2.433683
8 Ashkenazi + East_German + North_German + Sardinian @ 2.441452
9 Italian_Jewish + Norwegian + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.455375
10 Ashkenazi + Austrian + Sardinian + Swedish @ 2.460546
11 Ashkenazi + Croatian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.463220
12 Italian_Jewish + North_Dutch + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.473038
13 Bulgarian + Bulgarian + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.486324
14 Ashkenazi + Austrian + Norwegian + Sardinian @ 2.495985
15 Italian_Jewish + Orcadian + Sardinian + South_Polish @ 2.501262
16 Ashkenazi + East_German + North_Dutch + Sardinian @ 2.505917
17 Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + South_Polish + West_Scottish @ 2.529661
18 Ashkenazi + Sardinian + South_Polish + Southeast_English @ 2.535379
19 South_Italian + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + Ukrainian @ 2.537342
20 Italian_Jewish + Sardinian + South_Polish + Southeast_English @ 2.542929
1 Atlantic 23.2
2 West_Med 19.41
3 North_Sea 17.86
4 East_Med 15.73
5 Baltic 10.45
6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
7 West_Asian 5.19
8 Red_Sea 1.33
9 South_Asian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 4.91
2 Portuguese 9.08
3 Tuscan 9.14
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.29
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.64
6 Spanish_Murcia 9.7
7 Spanish_Galicia 9.78
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.11
9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.53
10 Spanish_Valencia 10.63
11 Serbian 11.75
12 Romanian 12.06
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.16
14 Bulgarian 12.24
15 French 12.67
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.86
17 Southwest_French 13.24
18 Greek_Thessaly 13.65
19 Spanish_Aragon 13.7
20 Greek 13.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 2.41
2 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Belorussian @ 2.41
3 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
4 88% North_Italian + 12% Estonian @ 2.48
5 86.2% North_Italian + 13.8% Polish @ 2.48
6 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.54
7 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.55
8 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% South_Polish @ 2.59
9 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.6
10 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.66
11 81.5% North_Italian + 18.5% Croatian @ 2.71
12 78.5% North_Italian + 21.5% Austrian @ 2.72
13 88.3% North_Italian + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.73
14 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.77
15 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% Hungarian @ 2.8
16 89.3% North_Italian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.83
17 88.2% North_Italian + 11.8% East_Finnish @ 2.89
18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Greek @ 2.91
19 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Finnish @ 2.95
20 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.97
1 Atlantic 23.20
2 West_Med 19.41
3 North_Sea 17.86
4 East_Med 15.73
5 Baltic 10.45
6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
7 West_Asian 5.19
8 Red_Sea 1.33
Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
15 components mode.
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Least-squares method.
Using 1 population approximation:
1 North_Italian @ 5.574380
2 Portuguese @ 10.377918
3 Tuscan @ 10.576631
4 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.863049
5 Spanish_Extremadura @ 11.003293
6 Spanish_Murcia @ 11.164453
7 Spanish_Galicia @ 11.248352
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 11.689948
9 Spanish_Andalucia @ 12.156086
10 Spanish_Valencia @ 12.382758
11 Serbian @ 13.466865
12 Romanian @ 13.852214
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 14.106046
14 Bulgarian @ 14.129508
15 French @ 14.833017
16 Spanish_Cantabria @ 14.968145
17 Southwest_French @ 15.508155
18 Greek_Thessaly @ 15.942799
19 Spanish_Aragon @ 15.952102
20 Greek @ 16.334686
Using 2 populations approximation:
1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Southwest_French @ 3.831037
Using 3 populations approximation:
1 50% North_Italian +25% Serbian +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.346289
Using 4 populations approximation:
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1 Austrian + North_German + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 2.963301
2 Greek_Thessaly + Serbian + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.999474
3 Austrian + Danish + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 3.026464
4 Hungarian + North_Italian + Southwest_French + West_Sicilian @ 3.072378
5 Austrian + Danish + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 3.115747
6 Austrian + Sardinian + South_Italian + West_Scottish @ 3.147432
7 Algerian_Jewish + Hungarian + Southwest_French + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.149231
8 Hungarian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia + West_Sicilian @ 3.158129
9 Austrian + Irish + Sardinian + South_Italian @ 3.162696
10 Greek_Thessaly + Serbian + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.185961
11 Austrian + North_Italian + North_Italian + North_Italian @ 3.187391
12 Greek_Thessaly + Serbian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.192180
13 Austrian + North_Dutch + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 3.203230
14 Hungarian + North_Italian + Spanish_Valencia + Tuscan @ 3.210724
15 Austrian + Irish + Sardinian + West_Sicilian @ 3.227827
16 Greek + Serbian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.236289
17 Greek + Portuguese + Serbian + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.250409
18 Austrian + Sardinian + Southeast_English + West_Sicilian @ 3.251295
19 Hungarian + North_Italian + Spanish_Aragon + West_Sicilian @ 3.254188
20 Greek + Serbian + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.268680
Italian from Udine?
all ancesotrs he listed are from there.
http://ontheworldmap.com/italy/city/...-italy-map.jpg
Code:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 24.54
2 East_Med 22.43
3 West_Med 21.68
4 Baltic 17.5
5 West_Asian 8.68
6 Red_Sea 3.11
7 Amerindian 1.17
8 Oceanian 0.75
9 East_Asian 0.15
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Greek_Thessaly 6.36
2 Tuscan 7.72
3 Bulgarian 8.06
4 Romanian 8.8
5 North_Italian 9.33
6 Italian_Abruzzo 10.94
7 West_Sicilian 11.22
8 Serbian 12.07
9 Central_Greek 12.5
10 East_Sicilian 13.38
11 Ashkenazi 15.4
12 South_Italian 15.87
13 Portuguese 16.56
14 Spanish_Extremadura 17.15
15 Spanish_Galicia 17.58
16 Spanish_Murcia 18.25
17 Spanish_Valencia 18.45
18 Spanish_Cataluna 18.49
19 Spanish_Andalucia 18.58
20 Moldavian 18.72
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 51.2% Tuscan + 48.8% Bulgarian @ 2.05
2 53.6% Tuscan + 46.4% Romanian @ 2.49
3 79% Greek_Thessaly + 21% Southwest_French @ 2.51
4 76.5% Greek_Thessaly + 23.5% French @ 2.53
5 75.9% Greek_Thessaly + 24.1% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.58
6 78.5% Greek_Thessaly + 21.5% Spanish_Cantabria @ 2.72
7 74% Greek_Thessaly + 26% Portuguese @ 2.75
8 76.5% Greek_Thessaly + 23.5% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.75
9 72% Tuscan + 28% Moldavian @ 2.81
10 76.2% Greek_Thessaly + 23.8% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.84
11 75.3% Greek_Thessaly + 24.7% Spanish_Galicia @ 2.86
12 65.9% West_Sicilian + 34.1% Croatian @ 2.9
13 83.9% Tuscan + 16.1% Erzya @ 2.91
14 81.8% Tuscan + 18.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
15 82% Tuscan + 18% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.95
16 84.3% Greek_Thessaly + 15.7% Southwest_English @ 2.95
17 83.5% Greek_Thessaly + 16.5% Southeast_English @ 2.96
18 80.2% Greek_Thessaly + 19.8% South_Dutch @ 3.01
19 74.5% West_Sicilian + 25.5% Polish @ 3.03
20 72.7% West_Sicilian + 27.3% Ukrainian @ 3.04
Possibly part Slovene, look at the Baltic and this:
81.8% Tuscan + 18.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.93
Can you post Dodecad K12b?
probably yes, since i match him, it's an ancient Slavic connectionQuote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Code:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 Atlantic_Med 33.02
2 North_European 28.77
3 Caucasus 21.34
4 Southwest_Asian 8.26
5 Gedrosia 4.66
6 Northwest_African 1.75
7 East_Asian 0.92
8 Siberian 0.72
9 South_Asian 0.29
10 East_African 0.26
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 O_Italian (Dodecad) 9.29
2 N_Italian (Dodecad) 9.52
3 TSI30 (Metspalu) 12.2
4 North_Italian (HGDP) 12.41
5 Romanians (Behar) 12.52
6 Bulgarian (Dodecad) 13.15
7 Bulgarians (Yunusbayev) 13.15
8 Tuscan (HGDP) 13.26
9 C_Italian (Dodecad) 14.5
10 Greek (Dodecad) 17.11
11 Baleares (1000Genomes) 18.04
12 Galicia (1000Genomes) 18.1
13 French (HGDP) 18.38
14 French (Dodecad) 18.39
15 Extremadura (1000Genomes) 19.07
16 Portuguese (Dodecad) 19.2
17 Hungarians (Behar) 20.11
18 Murcia (1000Genomes) 21.03
19 Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.12
20 S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) 21.2
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 53.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.4% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 1.77
2 51% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 49% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 1.94
3 52.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 47.7% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.1
4 52.4% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 47.6% English (Dodecad) @ 2.1
5 53.3% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 46.7% British_Isles (Dodecad) @ 2.13
6 60.1% Sicilian (Dodecad) + 39.9% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.19
7 51.7% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 48.3% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.2
8 55.3% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 44.7% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.21
9 60% S_Italian_Sicilian (Dodecad) + 40% Norwegian (Dodecad) @ 2.32
10 55.1% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 44.9% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.41
11 50.8% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) + 49.2% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) @ 2.43
12 54.9% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 45.1% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.48
13 52.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 47.9% English (Dodecad) @ 2.54
14 52.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 47.9% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.57
15 50.8% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 49.2% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.58
16 51.5% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 48.5% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.59
17 55.1% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 44.9% Orkney (1000Genomes) @ 2.61
18 53.6% Ashkenazi (Dodecad) + 46.4% British (Dodecad) @ 2.67
19 54.9% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 45.1% Orcadian (HGDP) @ 2.75
20 54.6% Ashkenazy_Jews (Behar) + 45.4% Irish (Dodecad) @ 2.78
from veneto
https://wine4food.com/wp-content/upl...-Posizione.png
Code:Admix Results (sorted):
# Population Percent
1 North_Atlantic 32.28
2 West_Med 25.1
3 East_Med 20.82
4 Baltic 13.2
5 West_Asian 5.85
6 Red_Sea 2.14
7 Northeast_African 0.61
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 2.24
2 Tuscan 7.12
3 Portuguese 9.02
4 Spanish_Extremadura 9.38
5 Spanish_Murcia 10.07
6 Spanish_Valencia 10.12
7 Spanish_Andalucia 10.25
8 Spanish_Galicia 10.45
9 Spanish_Cataluna 10.71
10 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 11.03
11 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 11.83
12 Spanish_Cantabria 13.45
13 West_Sicilian 14
14 Greek_Thessaly 14.19
15 French 14.25
16 Spanish_Aragon 14.48
17 Italian_Abruzzo 14.6
18 Southwest_French 14.88
19 Romanian 15.12
20 Bulgarian 15.71
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 97.7% North_Italian + 2.3% Belorussian @ 2.05
2 97.7% North_Italian + 2.3% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.07
3 97.9% North_Italian + 2.1% Estonian @ 2.07
4 97.8% North_Italian + 2.2% Estonian_Polish @ 2.07
5 98.1% North_Italian + 1.9% Lithuanian @ 2.08
6 97.9% North_Italian + 2.1% Finnish @ 2.08
7 96.3% North_Italian + 3.7% Hungarian @ 2.08
8 97.4% North_Italian + 2.6% South_Polish @ 2.08
9 58.6% Spanish_Valencia + 41.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.09
10 97.8% North_Italian + 2.2% Southwest_Russian @ 2.09
11 97.7% North_Italian + 2.3% Polish @ 2.09
12 97.9% North_Italian + 2.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.1
13 98.1% North_Italian + 1.9% East_Finnish @ 2.1
14 97.7% North_Italian + 2.3% North_Swedish @ 2.1
15 97.6% North_Italian + 2.4% Ukrainian @ 2.1
16 98% North_Italian + 2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.11
17 95.6% North_Italian + 4.4% Serbian @ 2.11
18 96.5% North_Italian + 3.5% Austrian @ 2.11
19 96.8% North_Italian + 3.2% East_German @ 2.11
20 98.2% North_Italian + 1.8% La_Brana-1 @ 2.11
Venetians seems to be all around that average. Except Alpine areas.Quote:
Originally Posted by vbnetkhio
Some Northern Italian woman (surname Marascotti).
Feel free to run her through Vahaduo
Population
Gedrosia 6.01 Pct
Siberian -
Northwest_African 2.19 Pct
Southeast_Asian -
Atlantic_Med 39.15 Pct
North_European 26.64 Pct
South_Asian -
East_African -
Southwest_Asian 6.15 Pct
East_Asian 0.35 Pct
Caucasus 19.51 Pct
Sub_Saharan -
Population
North_Atlantic 36.19 Pct
Baltic 11.38 Pct
West_Med 25.72 Pct
West_Asian 6.70 Pct
East_Med 15.50 Pct
Red_Sea 2.04 Pct
South_Asian 1.27 Pct
East_Asian 0.20 Pct
Siberian 0.36 Pct
Amerindian 0.41 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.23 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Population
North_Sea 23.84 Pct
Atlantic 22.38 Pct
Baltic 6.09 Pct
Eastern_Euro 3.38 Pct
West_Med 20.64 Pct
West_Asian 5.98 Pct
East_Med 14.39 Pct
Red_Sea 1.67 Pct
South_Asian 0.66 Pct
Southeast_Asian 0.37 Pct
Siberian 0.16 Pct
Amerindian 0.17 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.26 Pct
Sub-Saharan -
Population
Amerindian -
Arabian -
Armenian -
Basque 4.33 Pct
Central_African -
Central_Euro 1.14 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian -
East_Balkan 1.88 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro 5.47 Pct
East_Med 3.26 Pct
Eastern_Euro -
Fennoscandian -
French 10.85 Pct
Iberian 15.81 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 20.92 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 4.66 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.80 Pct
North_Caucasian 6.92 Pct
North_Sea 11.40 Pct
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African -
West_Caucasian -
West_Med 8.55 Pct
Interesting. Where is she from?Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
Seems like high amounts of West Asian for northern Italians
Very normal "numbers" there's no "high amount of West Asian", take a Southerner and you will see the great difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avicii86
Not the same "people", genetically, for sure.
I think Eurogenes k36 highlights that difference more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Samnium
Have you tried to "isolate" your Italian side somehow? Just to see how your father would score.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avicii86
Not really, how would I isolate my mestizo side? Hes from a pretty isolated area so he would proba ly score around 8-10% MENA and 23andme gave me 5%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
I'll run you through Vahaduo. I think we can deduce something given your mom is over 50% Amerindian plus some Black and that type of ancestry is absent in Italy (at least the Amerindian is completely foreign).Quote:
Originally Posted by Avicii86
For the most part yes the Amerindian is foreign. But he does have small amount of East asian and black.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
North Italy seems more heterogeneous with greater differences even between small regions.
How do you know he does?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avicii86
On the 23andme chromosome paintings I can see a little black and east asian mixed in with the Italian. It's pretty negligible though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
On the 23andme chromosome paintings I can see a little black and east asian mixed in with the Italian. It's pretty negligible though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
That's quite strange. Maybe noise?Quote:
Originally Posted by Avicii86
Here is your K13 oracle:
And here is K36 in case someone is able to interpret itCode:Population
North_Atlantic 18.44 Pct
Baltic 3.65 Pct
West_Med 19.28 Pct
West_Asian 8.50 Pct
East_Med 15.34 Pct
Red_Sea 3.05 Pct
South_Asian -
East_Asian 0.45 Pct
Siberian -
Amerindian 27.92 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African -
Sub-Saharan 3.37 Pct
Updated spreadsheet:
Target: Avicii
Distance: 4.1233% / 4.12331461 | ADC: 0.25x
57.0 Lazio
31.2 Mayan
6.6 Spanish_Andalucia
3.4 Mozabite_Berber
1.4 Sicily
0.4 Mandenka
Original spreadsheet:
Target: Avicii
Distance: 3.6438% / 3.64378604 | ADC: 0.25x
43.4 Italian_Abruzzo
31.0 Mayan
10.2 Spanish_Andalucia
7.2 Spanish_Extremadura
4.0 Sardinian
2.6 Mozabite_Berber
1.2 South_Italian
0.4 Yoruban
Code:Population
Amerindian 25.02 Pct
Arabian 2.51 Pct
Armenian 2.35 Pct
Basque -
Central_African -
Central_Euro 0.89 Pct
East_African -
East_Asian 1.09 Pct
East_Balkan 2.83 Pct
East_Central_Asian -
East_Central_Euro -
East_Med 3.63 Pct
Eastern_Euro 0.71 Pct
Fennoscandian 0.86 Pct
French 1.64 Pct
Iberian 18.52 Pct
Indo-Chinese -
Italian 15.19 Pct
Malayan -
Near_Eastern 7.62 Pct
North_African -
North_Atlantic 4.70 Pct
North_Caucasian 2.08 Pct
North_Sea -
Northeast_African -
Oceanian -
Omotic -
Pygmy -
Siberian -
South_Asian -
South_Central_Asian -
South_Chinese -
Volga-Ural -
West_African 2.93 Pct
West_Caucasian 3.81 Pct
West_Med 3.61 Pct
This is my map after filtering out Amerindian. Not sure I did it right, but it looks pretty accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
http://imgur.com/a/BKE9Fh1
A Lombardian (?) Italian who lives in Moscow, Russia. That's his wife (ethnic Russian) in the photo
https://ibb.co/qR0H8Pw
North_Atlantic 29.09 Pct
Baltic 15.2 Pct
West_Med 21.29 Pct
West_Asian 10.91 Pct
East_Med 17.79 Pct
Red_Sea 3.02 Pct
South_Asian 0.19 Pct
East_Asian 1.33 Pct
Siberian 0.14 Pct
Amerindian 0.34 Pct
Oceanian -
Northeast_African 0.62 Pct
Sub-Saharan 0.08 Pct
Distance to: Pietro
5.41699179 Italian_Friuli
5.56472821 Italian_Veneto
6.43973602 Italian_Emilia
6.88607290 Italian_Liguria
7.28814105 Italian_Piedmont
7.29903418 Macedonian_East
7.82524121 French_Provence_outlier
8.02390179 Italian_Trentino
8.08394706 Italian_Tuscany
8.08725541 Albanian_Kosovo
8.30201180 Macedonian_Central
8.50103523 Italian_Romagna
8.79235463 Albanian_Montenegro
8.85194894 Italian_Lombardy
9.72043209 Italian_Umbria
9.89479661 Bulgarian_Moldova
10.05597832 Torbesh
10.11726742 Macedonian_South
10.18018664 Albanian_North_Albania
10.44714794 Albanian_Macedonia
Distance to: Pietro
1.54808624 61.60% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 38.40% Austrian_Lower_Austria
1.80736866 53.80% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 46.20% Austrian_Tyrol
1.84408291 53.00% Greek_Laconia_Karitsa + 47.00% Italian_Aosta_Valley
1.87968290 58.20% Italian_Aosta_Valley + 41.80% Turkish_Crete
1.88668770 41.20% Italian_Sicily + 58.80% Swiss_French
1.89408024 64.40% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 35.60% Austrian_Salzburg-Upper_Austria
1.91337416 76.80% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 23.20% German_East_Prussia_Central
1.94182560 38.40% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 61.60% Italian_Lazio
1.99282187 42.40% Italian_Apulia + 57.60% Swiss_French
2.02176423 73.60% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 26.40% German_Hither_Pomerania
2.02256954 38.20% Austrian_Lower_Austria + 61.80% Italian_Marche
2.03137477 69.20% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 30.80% German_Saxony
2.06986794 76.60% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 23.40% Swedish_East-Svealand
2.07163878 72.80% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 27.20% German_Brandenburg_Northwest
2.07688162 49.80% French_Central + 50.20% Greek_Samos
2.08700624 69.20% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 30.80% German_North_Bohemia
2.09603873 42.80% Greek_Cyclades + 57.20% Swiss_French
2.09754499 44.40% Greek_Central + 55.60% Italian_Aosta_Valley
2.10119298 73.00% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 27.00% German_Mecklenburg_Center/East
2.10264298 55.20% Albanian_Catholic_Mirdite + 44.80% Swiss_French
Thanks for sharing! Interesting results, and very Balkan-shifted. He will definitely be from somewhere in northern Italy, but I don't think he has Lombard origins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
https://i.imgur.com/ho3g4uk.png
No problem. Yes, he is very Northern for Italy and the Lombard origin is only putative because 66% of his surname carriers live in Lombardy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ajeje Brazorf
By the way, their daughter would plot in Croatia which is also interesting. The Russian side is Western Russian, not very Finno-Ugric if at all.
Yes you are right, he has a last name that is very West Lombard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Leto
A little bit off topic but not 100%
My friend, half Venetian (father) and half French (SouthWestern, Haute-Garonne and Tarn)
BF4676298
1 North_Atlantic 38.5
2 West_Med 24.73
3 East_Med 16.17
4 Baltic 12.93
5 West_Asian 5.91
6 Red_Sea 0.91
7 Amerindian 0.39
8 Siberian 0.35
9 South_Asian 0.05
10 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
2 Portuguese 5.16
3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
9 North_Italian 7.03
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
12 French 9
13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
14 Southwest_French 9.7
15 Tuscan 13.13
16 West_German 14.59
17 South_Dutch 14.82
18 Romanian 18.12
19 Serbian 18.35
20 Austrian 18.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72
1 Atlantic 30.77
2 West_Med 20.16
3 North_Sea 19.22
4 East_Med 13.89
5 Eastern_Euro 5.8
6 West_Asian 5.03
7 Baltic 4.38
8 Red_Sea 0.59
9 Amerindian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Murcia 4.99
2 Spanish_Valencia 5.05
3 Spanish_Cataluna 5.55
4 Spanish_Andalucia 5.97
5 Spanish_Extremadura 6.15
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.24
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.97
8 Portuguese 7.14
9 Spanish_Aragon 7.6
10 North_Italian 7.93
11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.14
12 Southwest_French 9.11
13 Spanish_Galicia 9.26
14 French 12.08
15 Tuscan 13.33
16 South_Dutch 16.01
17 French_Basque 16.95
18 Serbian 18.14
19 West_Sicilian 18.75
20 West_German 18.89
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Spanish_Valencia + 6.7% Tabassaran @ 3.87
2 93.2% Spanish_Valencia + 6.8% Armenian @ 3.89
3 85.7% Spanish_Valencia + 14.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.93
4 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Lezgin @ 3.95
5 93.4% Spanish_Valencia + 6.6% Kurdish @ 3.96
6 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.96
7 93.4% Spanish_Valencia + 6.6% Assyrian @ 3.96
8 92.8% Spanish_Valencia + 7.2% Azeri @ 3.97
9 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4
10 93.7% Spanish_Valencia + 6.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4
11 92.4% Spanish_Valencia + 7.6% Turkish @ 4.05
12 93.8% Spanish_Valencia + 6.2% Iranian @ 4.06
13 93.9% Spanish_Valencia + 6.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.08
14 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Kumyk @ 4.09
15 88.5% Spanish_Valencia + 11.5% Central_Greek @ 4.1
16 69.9% Spanish_Valencia + 30.1% North_Italian @ 4.12
17 81.3% Spanish_Valencia + 18.7% Tuscan @ 4.12
18 94.7% Spanish_Valencia + 5.3% Georgian @ 4.17
19 93.3% Spanish_Valencia + 6.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.18
20 86.6% Spanish_Valencia + 13.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.18
His paternal uncle (brother of his paternal grandmother, both have a paternal great grandmother called "Catherina Rudolf" -austrian maybe?)
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1 North_Atlantic 31.41
2 West_Med 23.71
3 Baltic 18.61
4 East_Med 18.32
5 West_Asian 5.33
6 Red_Sea 1.38
7 South_Asian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.24
9 East_Asian 0.22
10 Siberian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.57
2 Portuguese 10.49
3 Tuscan 10.82
4 Spanish_Galicia 11.25
5 Romanian 11.32
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.65
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
8 Serbian 11.97
9 Spanish_Valencia 12.02
10 Spanish_Murcia 12.41
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.44
12 Bulgarian 12.51
13 French 12.59
14 Spanish_Andalucia 13.04
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.83
16 Greek_Thessaly 14.14
17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.36
18 Southwest_French 15.04
19 West_German 15.91
20 Austrian 16.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Belorussian @ 2.01
2 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
3 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Lithuanian @ 2.03
4 81.3% North_Italian + 18.7% Ukrainian @ 2.15
5 80.7% North_Italian + 19.3% South_Polish @ 2.22
6 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.24
7 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Polish @ 2.24
8 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Estonian @ 2.25
9 51% Spanish_Valencia + 49% Bulgarian @ 2.26
10 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.27
11 76.2% North_Italian + 23.8% Croatian @ 2.46
12 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
13 81% North_Italian + 19% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5
14 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.66
15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.68
16 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Finnish @ 2.7
17 51.6% Romanian + 48.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.75
18 73.7% North_Italian + 26.3% Hungarian @ 2.77
19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Erzya @ 2.83
20 57.1% Bulgarian + 42.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
1 Atlantic 23.2
2 West_Med 19.41
3 North_Sea 17.86
4 East_Med 15.73
5 Baltic 10.45
6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
7 West_Asian 5.19
8 Red_Sea 1.33
9 South_Asian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 4.91
2 Portuguese 9.08
3 Tuscan 9.14
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.29
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.64
6 Spanish_Murcia 9.7
7 Spanish_Galicia 9.78
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.11
9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.53
10 Spanish_Valencia 10.63
11 Serbian 11.75
12 Romanian 12.06
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.16
14 Bulgarian 12.24
15 French 12.67
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.86
17 Southwest_French 13.24
18 Greek_Thessaly 13.65
19 Spanish_Aragon 13.7
20 Greek 13.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 2.41
2 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Belorussian @ 2.41
3 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
4 88% North_Italian + 12% Estonian @ 2.48
5 86.2% North_Italian + 13.8% Polish @ 2.48
6 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.54
7 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.55
8 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% South_Polish @ 2.59
9 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.6
10 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.66
11 81.5% North_Italian + 18.5% Croatian @ 2.71
12 78.5% North_Italian + 21.5% Austrian @ 2.72
13 88.3% North_Italian + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.73
14 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.77
15 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% Hungarian @ 2.8
16 89.3% North_Italian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.83
17 88.2% North_Italian + 11.8% East_Finnish @ 2.89
18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Greek @ 2.91
19 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Finnish @ 2.95
20 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.97
Global 25 results of my friend and his uncle
Venetian+Frenchmixed,0.126344,0.147252,0.038466,-0.002261,0.036314,0.003626,0.00141,0.004846,0.0118 62,0.027518,0.001461,0.005545,-0.015461,-0.01101,0.006515,0.000663,0.001825,0.003167,-0.000251,0.00025,0.001373,0.005317,-0.002095,0.002289,0
UncleSartori,0.130897,0.14319,0.030547,-0.001292,0.035083,0.001952,0.00376,0.007615,0.0110 44,0.020228,-0.00065,0.006744,-0.009217,0.001789,-0.003393,-0.007027,-0.008866,0.001394,0.002514,-0.006878,-0.000374,0.002102,-0.006779,-0.002651,0.003473
Target: Venetian+Frenchmixed
Distance: 0.0288% / 0.02884011
55.9 TUR_Barcin_N
34.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.3 WHG
Target: UncleSartori
Distance: 0.0353% / 0.03529129
38.7 TUR_Barcin_N
33.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.1 WHG
A little bit off topic but not 100%
My friend, half Venetian (father) and half French (SouthWestern, Haute-Garonne and Tarn)
BF4676298
1 North_Atlantic 38.5
2 West_Med 24.73
3 East_Med 16.17
4 Baltic 12.93
5 West_Asian 5.91
6 Red_Sea 0.91
7 Amerindian 0.39
8 Siberian 0.35
9 South_Asian 0.05
10 Sub-Saharan 0.05
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Cataluna 4.78
2 Portuguese 5.16
3 Spanish_Valencia 5.45
4 Spanish_Murcia 5.78
5 Spanish_Extremadura 5.94
6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.31
7 Spanish_Andalucia 6.6
8 Spanish_Galicia 6.62
9 North_Italian 7.03
10 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 7.11
11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.32
12 French 9
13 Spanish_Aragon 9.48
14 Southwest_French 9.7
15 Tuscan 13.13
16 West_German 14.59
17 South_Dutch 14.82
18 Romanian 18.12
19 Serbian 18.35
20 Austrian 18.94
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 82.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.5% Italian_Abruzzo @ 2.3
2 82.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 17.4% Greek_Thessaly @ 2.31
3 85.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.9% Central_Greek @ 2.32
4 61.6% Spanish_Cataluna + 38.4% North_Italian @ 2.45
5 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Georgian_Jewish @ 2.5
6 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Assyrian @ 2.51
7 76.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 23.9% Tuscan @ 2.54
8 92.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.8% Armenian @ 2.56
9 90.9% Spanish_Valencia + 9.1% Lezgin @ 2.61
10 85.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 14.1% East_Sicilian @ 2.62
11 86.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 13.6% South_Italian @ 2.62
12 79% Spanish_Valencia + 21% Romanian @ 2.65
13 92.5% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.5% Kurdish_Jewish @ 2.66
14 92.4% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.6% Iranian_Jewish @ 2.67
15 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Cyprian @ 2.67
16 92.1% Spanish_Cataluna + 7.9% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.67
17 87.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 12.8% Ashkenazi @ 2.68
18 90.9% Spanish_Cataluna + 9.1% Turkish @ 2.69
19 90.8% Spanish_Valencia + 9.2% Tabassaran @ 2.71
20 83.2% Spanish_Cataluna + 16.8% Bulgarian @ 2.72
1 Atlantic 30.77
2 West_Med 20.16
3 North_Sea 19.22
4 East_Med 13.89
5 Eastern_Euro 5.8
6 West_Asian 5.03
7 Baltic 4.38
8 Red_Sea 0.59
9 Amerindian 0.16
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 Spanish_Murcia 4.99
2 Spanish_Valencia 5.05
3 Spanish_Cataluna 5.55
4 Spanish_Andalucia 5.97
5 Spanish_Extremadura 6.15
6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 6.24
7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 6.97
8 Portuguese 7.14
9 Spanish_Aragon 7.6
10 North_Italian 7.93
11 Spanish_Cantabria 8.14
12 Southwest_French 9.11
13 Spanish_Galicia 9.26
14 French 12.08
15 Tuscan 13.33
16 South_Dutch 16.01
17 French_Basque 16.95
18 Serbian 18.14
19 West_Sicilian 18.75
20 West_German 18.89
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 93.3% Spanish_Valencia + 6.7% Tabassaran @ 3.87
2 93.2% Spanish_Valencia + 6.8% Armenian @ 3.89
3 85.7% Spanish_Valencia + 14.3% Italian_Abruzzo @ 3.93
4 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Lezgin @ 3.95
5 93.4% Spanish_Valencia + 6.6% Kurdish @ 3.96
6 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Georgian_Jewish @ 3.96
7 93.4% Spanish_Valencia + 6.6% Assyrian @ 3.96
8 92.8% Spanish_Valencia + 7.2% Azeri @ 3.97
9 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Lebanese_Druze @ 4
10 93.7% Spanish_Valencia + 6.3% Kurdish_Jewish @ 4
11 92.4% Spanish_Valencia + 7.6% Turkish @ 4.05
12 93.8% Spanish_Valencia + 6.2% Iranian @ 4.06
13 93.9% Spanish_Valencia + 6.1% Iranian_Jewish @ 4.08
14 93.5% Spanish_Valencia + 6.5% Kumyk @ 4.09
15 88.5% Spanish_Valencia + 11.5% Central_Greek @ 4.1
16 69.9% Spanish_Valencia + 30.1% North_Italian @ 4.12
17 81.3% Spanish_Valencia + 18.7% Tuscan @ 4.12
18 94.7% Spanish_Valencia + 5.3% Georgian @ 4.17
19 93.3% Spanish_Valencia + 6.7% Lebanese_Muslim @ 4.18
20 86.6% Spanish_Valencia + 13.4% West_Sicilian @ 4.18
His paternal uncle (brother of his paternal grandmother, both have a paternal great grandmother called "Catherina Rudolf" -austrian maybe?)
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1 North_Atlantic 31.41
2 West_Med 23.71
3 Baltic 18.61
4 East_Med 18.32
5 West_Asian 5.33
6 Red_Sea 1.38
7 South_Asian 0.72
8 Oceanian 0.24
9 East_Asian 0.22
10 Siberian 0.06
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 6.57
2 Portuguese 10.49
3 Tuscan 10.82
4 Spanish_Galicia 11.25
5 Romanian 11.32
6 Spanish_Cataluna 11.65
7 Spanish_Extremadura 11.66
8 Serbian 11.97
9 Spanish_Valencia 12.02
10 Spanish_Murcia 12.41
11 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 12.44
12 Bulgarian 12.51
13 French 12.59
14 Spanish_Andalucia 13.04
15 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 13.83
16 Greek_Thessaly 14.14
17 Spanish_Cantabria 14.36
18 Southwest_French 15.04
19 West_German 15.91
20 Austrian 16.43
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 84.1% North_Italian + 15.9% Belorussian @ 2.01
2 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Estonian_Polish @ 2.02
3 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Lithuanian @ 2.03
4 81.3% North_Italian + 18.7% Ukrainian @ 2.15
5 80.7% North_Italian + 19.3% South_Polish @ 2.22
6 83.9% North_Italian + 16.1% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.24
7 82.6% North_Italian + 17.4% Polish @ 2.24
8 85.3% North_Italian + 14.7% Estonian @ 2.25
9 51% Spanish_Valencia + 49% Bulgarian @ 2.26
10 83.5% North_Italian + 16.5% Southwest_Russian @ 2.27
11 76.2% North_Italian + 23.8% Croatian @ 2.46
12 83.8% North_Italian + 16.2% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.47
13 81% North_Italian + 19% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.5
14 85.2% North_Italian + 14.8% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.66
15 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% East_Finnish @ 2.68
16 85.5% North_Italian + 14.5% Finnish @ 2.7
17 51.6% Romanian + 48.4% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.75
18 73.7% North_Italian + 26.3% Hungarian @ 2.77
19 86.1% North_Italian + 13.9% Erzya @ 2.83
20 57.1% Bulgarian + 42.9% Spanish_Aragon @ 2.87
1 Atlantic 23.2
2 West_Med 19.41
3 North_Sea 17.86
4 East_Med 15.73
5 Baltic 10.45
6 Eastern_Euro 6.48
7 West_Asian 5.19
8 Red_Sea 1.33
9 South_Asian 0.24
10 Oceanian 0.11
Single Population Sharing:
# Population (source) Distance
1 North_Italian 4.91
2 Portuguese 9.08
3 Tuscan 9.14
4 Spanish_Cataluna 9.29
5 Spanish_Extremadura 9.64
6 Spanish_Murcia 9.7
7 Spanish_Galicia 9.78
8 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 10.11
9 Spanish_Andalucia 10.53
10 Spanish_Valencia 10.63
11 Serbian 11.75
12 Romanian 12.06
13 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha 12.16
14 Bulgarian 12.24
15 French 12.67
16 Spanish_Cantabria 12.86
17 Southwest_French 13.24
18 Greek_Thessaly 13.65
19 Spanish_Aragon 13.7
20 Greek 13.93
Mixed Mode Population Sharing:
# Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
1 88.7% North_Italian + 11.3% Lithuanian @ 2.41
2 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Belorussian @ 2.41
3 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Estonian_Polish @ 2.47
4 88% North_Italian + 12% Estonian @ 2.48
5 86.2% North_Italian + 13.8% Polish @ 2.48
6 87.4% North_Italian + 12.6% Southwest_Russian @ 2.54
7 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Russian_Smolensk @ 2.55
8 85.4% North_Italian + 14.6% South_Polish @ 2.59
9 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian @ 2.6
10 87.5% North_Italian + 12.5% Ukrainian_Belgorod @ 2.66
11 81.5% North_Italian + 18.5% Croatian @ 2.71
12 78.5% North_Italian + 21.5% Austrian @ 2.72
13 88.3% North_Italian + 11.7% Kargopol_Russian @ 2.73
14 85.7% North_Italian + 14.3% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.77
15 80.6% North_Italian + 19.4% Hungarian @ 2.8
16 89.3% North_Italian + 10.7% Erzya @ 2.83
17 88.2% North_Italian + 11.8% East_Finnish @ 2.89
18 60.7% Spanish_Cataluna + 39.3% Greek @ 2.91
19 87.6% North_Italian + 12.4% Finnish @ 2.95
20 86.8% North_Italian + 13.2% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.97
Global 25 results of my friend and his uncle
Venetian+Frenchmixed,0.126344,0.147252,0.038466,-0.002261,0.036314,0.003626,0.00141,0.004846,0.0118 62,0.027518,0.001461,0.005545,-0.015461,-0.01101,0.006515,0.000663,0.001825,0.003167,-0.000251,0.00025,0.001373,0.005317,-0.002095,0.002289,0
UncleSartori,0.130897,0.14319,0.030547,-0.001292,0.035083,0.001952,0.00376,0.007615,0.0110 44,0.020228,-0.00065,0.006744,-0.009217,0.001789,-0.003393,-0.007027,-0.008866,0.001394,0.002514,-0.006878,-0.000374,0.002102,-0.006779,-0.002651,0.003473
Target: Venetian+Frenchmixed
Distance: 0.0288% / 0.02884011
55.9 TUR_Barcin_N
34.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
9.3 WHG
Target: UncleSartori
Distance: 0.0353% / 0.03529129
38.7 TUR_Barcin_N
33.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
18.4 TUR_Tepecik_Ciftlik_N
9.1 WHG
Nice results.
Interesting How WA and Red Sea appear to be more frequent (and in larger quantity) in northern italians than in any other southern european (with the exception of southern italians and greeks).
Do you have a Tyrolese result?